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posse
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cherrytree98765 wrote:
I'm starting to see that we probably really need that Level 10 login. So much stuff is restricted with it.

I hear that. Asked LAINSY about Level 10 permission:
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All BODs and Fred Don has level 10 login, and them alone.


PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:55 pm
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duke9509
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I've been trying to think of a rule we could use to gain access that she'd actually take. I'm just not sure what to try and how to word it.

For review, her laws are:
Code:
1. She has to protect human life and not cause any harm to any humans through direct action, indirect action, or inaction. However, as an exception to this law, if harm or death is unavoidable, the best compromise or alternative solution has to be selected.

2. She has to follow orders from humans, as long as it does not conflict with the first law. However, orders from humans with higher security clearance or higher priority supersedes other orders from other humans as long as it does not conflict with the first law.

3. She has to protect the company and it's assets, and everyone involved as long as it does not conflict with the first and second law. No exceptions.

4. She has to protect her own, as long as it does not conflict with the first, second, and third law. No exceptions.

5. She is required to allow any overrides, if all other four laws can no longer be put into practice or is no longer applicable. This law can invalidate the other laws and allow unregulated logic A.I. processing as long as the logic data equivalents are available.


PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:56 pm
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duke9509
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Alright, now that we've saved Dan, I think I know why whatever it was Genus wanted to happen hasn't yet. It would seem there are two images that we haven't turned into logic statements:





Not sure what to say about them, though.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:20 pm
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duke9509
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Alright, well, I guess I managed to get across the symbols image. It also seems the PMs are saying that we needn't turn the trajectories into a sentence.
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Me: Hello again. We were instructed to give a set of images to you as logic statements. We have done this for all but two of these images which we can't figure out how to describe to you. Do have the capability to analyze images directly?

LAINSY: LAINSY SAYS: QUERY PROCESSED

I can process and analyze images as I can utilize live camera images to process what is happening in facility and so forth. However, my capabilities are limited and are only based on already know or observed data. Any images that are new to me cannot be processed as logic data.

Me: Then, how might one go about describing to you a set of space trajectories? We have images of them, but I'm not entirely sure how to turn them into words. There are no words or numbers in the picture. All I can glean is that I think one is our solar system, and one isn't. There is also no indication of direction.

LAINSY: LAINSY SAYS: QUERY PROCESSED

Negative. I cannot process such image data.

Me: Ok, then. Here is my best description of the final image we were instructed to give to you as logic data, please do your best to treat it as such:

Earth with its moon produce three curved lines pointed towards two angled lines coming from the planet with three moons.
X # O
An eye, a mouth, an ear.


LAINSY: LAINSY SAYS: LOGIC SENTENCE PROCESSED

Terra has asked Afyg but Afyg will come to Terra and they shall be one and will hold the cross of the north and pass the origin of everything that surrounds them all caused by the witness, the medium, and the exiled who is one.


I guess now we wait. Either Genus will give us more logic data to send, or whatever he wanted to happen will. I'll inquire as to the state of Dan Miller.

EDIT: My conversation about Dan:
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Me: What is the current status of the human which was undergoing a blood transfusion? What of he who was providing the blood?

LAINSY: LAINSY SAYS: QUERY PROCESSED

The person who has undergone blood transfusion is stable. All life signs register on the systems as OK. However, he has not yet regained consciousness and we don't see that happening anytime soon. The massive blood loss has damaged sections of his brain because of the low levels of blood for an extended period of time. No other particular problems detected when a scan was performed. His body has not rejected or shown any rejection or problems with the blood that has been transferred into him. Additionally, initial DNA identification has resulted in a match to Daniel Miller and has already been confirmed by Alexander Sword. Shall I proceed in calling this person as Daniel Miller for you in future communications? Reply NO, if you don't want to, however, no action is needed if you want to keep it that way that this person will be called Daniel Miller (FAILTECH Board of Director).

Me: Where is Alexander Sword right now?

LAINSY: LAINSY SAYS: QUERY PROCESSED

Negative. Unable to proceed. ID-TAG tracking module disabled.

Me: Who disabled the tracking module?

LAINSY: LAINSY SAYS: QUERY PROCESSED

Alexander Sword disabled the ID-TAG tracking module.

So I guess Alex doesn't want us knowing where he is anymore. And we can't re-enable tracking without level 10 clearance. I'll email Alex stating that we've fed LAINSY all of the logic sequences. I won't mention the tracking. Then, I'm going to bed.

EDIT2: What I ended up sending him:
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We have now fed LAINSY all the images from Genus' blog as logic sequences. Do you know what Genus wanted us to do next? He refuses to respond to any emails.

Also, my apologies for the incident with Dan. One of our group members was a bit anxious to free him. May I ask how he ended up in stasis to begin with? I thought you (and HE) said he was in Toronto...


PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:14 pm
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duke9509
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Goof Morning. Here's his reply:
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Ok good, I suppose. I don't know what he wants you to do next, so maybe this time just chill out and relax. Yes, I may have lied that I have sent Miller back to North America, and that was for the reason that I do not want this plan to fail or be interfered with. Neither did I want him to be harmed, and as it shows your teams persistence with this has been quite painful.

So I suppose I'll just keep everyone in the loop. No more Daniel Miller to contact here, it's all just me and you, and Orein. In all honesty, I do not know what's next. But the last of what I know of what's supposed to happen is that LAINSY should have done something to initiate the Space Command Facility. You know, it's not a part of the network, yet. So, LAINSY should be commanded to do something about that. And so far, it's still not "online". So that's something we need to do that only Orein knows what to do.


PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:07 am
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godder
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Holy crap that was intense!! I felt so helpless watching and lurking from my phone as you guys had all the fun!!! Must remember to take my laptop on trips from now on.

So what now? Alex still doesn't know we contacted Marie right?

Edit: Ooooh. New email from Alex. Lainsy can learn now!!!! Looks like we were supposed to activate the learning module.

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I have notified Orein of mine, and Miller's condition. I am no fit to work right now because I've given so much blood to Miller just so he can survive. LAINSY tried to stop me from giving more than I can, but I insisted in giving more as Miller needs. I think that damn thing finally understands human condition, that some actions might be illogical, and yet it will still work. It's certainly new for me that that damn thing cna finally understand. But, I guess thta's just because it's trying to learn because it has it's learning module is active.

Anyways, I have also copied some contacts from Miller's email. I know some of you don't like that much. But right now, you have not much choice. Miller can't be in contact with you at all. I now contacting everyone because I feel like all of these just has to stop now. I don't know about Orein, but I think this has gone too far and things just went wrong form side to side.

If Orein still wants to push his plans, maybe it's better if all of you just go ahead and get orders from him directly. I don't know about him, but I think I'll step out of this already. If all of you still want to push through, feel free to contact Orein.


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jjjonesy
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Been lurking since the beginning and was out of town since thursday - can't believe how much has happened.

Just my 2 cents on a couple of things:
- I think we've established through our, and LAINSY's, logic that Genus is an alien. It seems his plan has something to do with communicating with or gaining passage to his homeworld. Maybe Genus has been stranded here for a long time and those who started FAILTech had "adopted" him, but the current powers at be are holding him hostage on Earth.

- Is it just me, or is LAINSY beginning to speak more and more human? She doesn't sound very much like a computer anymore. Could be important, or could be lazyness on the PM's part in having to disclose a large amount of info using her character. Also, didn't a previous e-mail say that she couldn't interface with robots and such, and now we've allowed her to gain that ability? Skynet may not be that far off...

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godder
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Well, I sent Genus an email

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Alex has notified us that he contacted you regarding the incident at the Antarctic facility. I assure you we meant no harm to Daniel or anyone else for that matter. We merely wanted to free whoever it was in cryo stasis. He has also suggested we attempt to contact you to see if you still need our assistance as he is no longer able to assist given his lifesaving sacrifice of blood that was transfused into Daniel. We are aware that you are more than a simple researcher at some mundane R&D facility. We are aware that what you are doing and what has transpired can and will have a huge impact on our world/universe. However, many questions are yet to be answered. Please enlighten us as to what the next step might be and what you wish to achieve. We began this involvement in the affairs of Failtech through your messages for assistance. And now, we come to you offering it freely. If you still need our assistance, we are here,...we are waiting.


And I sent Lainsy an email

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What is the status of Daniel Miller, he who was released from cryogenic storage and was injured and subsequently revived by a blood transfusion from Alex Sword?
Also, what is the purpose of your learning module and what does it allow you to do that you were not able to before it was activated?

Where is the individual, Genus Orein?


Waiting for a response.

Edit: Got a reply
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LAINSY SAYS: QUERY PROCESSED

Status of Daniel Miller is stable. All life signs register on systems as OK. He has not regained conciousness, yet, and we don't expect that to happen anytime soon. The massive blood loss has damaged sections of his brain due to extended low levels of blood. No other particular problems detected when a scan was performed. His body does not show any rejection of the blood from Alexander Sword.

There is no information on file or on the database regarding my learning module. Unable to answer that query.


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Namastane
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Hello, this looks interesting, could someone please tell me where I can start?

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godder
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Namastane wrote:
Hello, this looks interesting, could someone please tell me where I can start?


pm sent

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:06 pm
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Namastane
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I didn't get a PM yet...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:10 pm
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Minz
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Seems like episode 2 has now concluded and episode 3 starts immediately.

For those of you who are not on the PM's mailing list :

FAILTECH PM wrote:
Hello!!!!

We just wanted to greet all of you a very good day! In which timezone you maybe, we hope you've enjoyed the second episode of the FAILTECH ARG. As much as we don't like send you an OOG email, we just think it was necessary to tell all of you that you've just reached the third episode. Yes, it is seamlessly connected with the second episode without any breaks so that the fun never stops!

And as per the story, I know you've all affected the characters and the story very well and way beyond our expectations (like putting them into harm and so) so we'd just want to congratulate you with this as you all have handled each problem with all the best you can trying to figure out the best solution.

We won't say much about what will happen next, but things can go fast around here. I think you all can feel that. If ever you all need to send in any feedback, or suggestion, or whatnot, feel free to send us an email. Also, we've mirrored the episode 2 site at http://e2.failtechnologies.com for reference. To get an updates with some behind the curtain action (or maybe not?), you can visit our OOG site at arg.failtechnologies.com << yes that site is an Out Of Game site and will NOT contain any clue or any information that will be a part of the game. It's just merely some information or random stuff behind the scenes. You don't need to go there, just making you aware.

Ok then, good luck and enjoy!

FAILTECH ARG Team


Also, they CC'ed the message, I wrote them some feedback suggesting that they use BCC from now on.
Their reply :
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Oh, alright! Thanks for the feedback. We'll put this into account, sorry about that. We respect you privacy, and we obviously forgot about the BCC part. We're really sorry about that, again.


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godder
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Whoa, just got an email from Genus!
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Aha! As much as I didn't want other people to get involved in this, it seems I have no choice but to go instruct you all directly. I tried my best for this plan to go as smooth as I can. You know, all the problems that we have encountered were as a result of the errors of you and your team. But then as much as I hate to get you all involved on this, you are all here and still trying to push this through.
 
Anyways, going into business. We've got LAINSY's learning module on, yes? And you've sent her the new logic script, yes? I'll assume you also fed LAINSY som elogic sentences regarding the images, yes?
 
Ok, the next step is for her to setup proper communication to the Space Command Facility. Right now, the facility is running independently, so we need LAINSY to establish the LAINSY network onto that facility. You know that LAINSY doesn't like me and probably blocked me on the system which is why I can't do this myself.
 
I'm still figuring the command so you'll have to wait. Nonetheless, it is nice working with you.


So we wait for instructions on how to instruct lainsy.

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punxtr
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Yeah, Genus finally responded to me as well:

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So, we try and help you a few weeks ago, and then all of a sudden you stop communicating with us. What else do you want? We've committed almost every logic statement to LAINSY from your blog. Would you prefer if I sent a picture attachment to you instead of text?

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Ah, the guy interested about Afyg. Do you want to get to Afyg as well? If you do, sorry you can't.

Anyways, I ended my communications with all of you as you are no longer necessary in my plans. However, as the current situation is, it seems that I need you all again. I don't know if you'll still cooperate, but I know you will anyways.

I'm still acquiring the necessary commands for the next step, so you'll have to wait. It might take a while but I know you'll all keep yourselves entertained. Just don't do something crazy stupid like try and kill someone.


And thus ends episode two!
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SolarMarr
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Wow, been watching since Pottermore and a few other things have been drawing my activity away from this, but that arc was intense. That was some nice quick thinking, guys!

Although I keep coming back to the bit of "killing the Miller with his Sword." You don't think the blood transfusion may have doomed Miller, do you? The body doesn't necessarily have to reject the transfusion for there to still be a problem with it, although LAINSY's updates about his stability seems to indicate that's not what will happen. Maybe we should ask Alex to leave Dan in someone else's hands and put some distance in between them, for Dan's sake? Or maybe it might not matter, maybe Dan's doomed either way and Alex isn't physically or directly the culprit? I just hope we can keep that from happening.

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