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[VIDEO] Entry #44
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Mantisbot
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 		Quick thought:

What if Alex is The Operator? If he's summoning the big tall guy, perhaps he has some way of controlling, or--wait for it--OPERATING him?

omg insanity.

It's likely to be the other way around sure, but playing around with this idea, it does explain why Alex would summon Mr. Stretchy.

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muted wrote:
So when I saw this entry I thought it was kinda strange how the scenes skip. Usually the entry's are sort of a single shot sequence. So I timed each skip with the newest totheark video.



this may just be a coincidence the other skips don't fit nearly as well as this first one, but it is kind of eery.

here are the rest of the skips and the frames from totheark (each time there was a time skip I would play the next frame from the totheark video)

second: http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i228/xellacard/ARG/second.png

third: http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i228/xellacard/ARG/third.png

forth: http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i228/xellacard/ARG/fourth.png

fifth: http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i228/xellacard/ARG/fifth.png

sixth: http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i228/xellacard/ARG/sixth.png

seventh: http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i228/xellacard/ARG/seventh.png

eighth: http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i228/xellacard/ARG/eigth.png

ninth: http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i228/xellacard/ARG/ninth.png

it is interesting to note that even though the skips don't make perfect sense with the totheark frames, there are still the same number of frames as there are skips in the video. (they both have 9)

I've been following Marble hornets for a long time but this is my first time posting anything on this forum. Hopefully this helps!


A) Thank you for a great post and B) This is probably one of the most interesting TTA/Jay's vids links I've seen.

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 		It's now apparent that the drawings Alex and the Operator symbol do summon him. That means one of two things:
  1. Alex has always been compromised, even before he gave the tapes to Jay. The footage we saw of him with Amy was kind of like being a "sleeper agent" who was reactivated when Amy's discovery of the camera brought the Operator back into the picture.
  2. Alex was not compromised before, but is now compromised after he attempted to confront the Operator in Entry #43 and lost.

I believe the first one to be more likely.

It's unlikely that Alex would be the Operator himself. As a theory, it just doesn't make a lot of sense and requires a whole lot of creative thinking outside our established set of assumptions.

Did anyone else find themselves remembering BloodyForehead!Alex during the mirror scene?

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Mantisbot wrote:
Quick thought:

What if Alex is The Operator? If he's summoning the big tall guy, perhaps he has some way of controlling, or--wait for it--OPERATING him?

omg insanity.

It's likely to be the other way around sure, but playing around with this idea, it does explain why Alex would summon Mr. Stretchy.


If Alex is the Operator, then how can they be in the same location at the same time?

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 		Muted's post coupled with the previous question of "How would TTA know what Jay's going to post and preemptively?" gave me an idea: makes perfect sense if it's 2 sides of the same coin present, thus re-treading into the split personality territory.

We don't know if he's back to blacking out and losing chunks of time and memory, but mention of this from Jay again could add fuel to the fire for this idea.

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toolsquatch wrote:
Muted's post coupled with the previous question of "How would TTA know what Jay's going to post and preemptively?" gave me an idea: makes perfect sense if it's 2 sides of the same coin present, thus re-treading into the split personality territory.

We don't know if he's back to blacking out and losing chunks of time and memory, but mention of this from Jay again could add fuel to the fire for this idea.


I like the idea.

Alternately, if Alex is TTA, then being as these are Alex's videos, he must have known they were on the hard drive and that Jay would post them when he found them. Through luck, intent or coincidence, he posted Inquiry right before Entry 44.

Was Inquiry posted on its own, or as a "response" to any of Jay's videos?

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 		Ok, just a few points from my end:

1. Personally I want to believe that the person sitting in front of the door wasn't Alex, but I can see it being him. To me though, it looks like the covers are pulled up to his waist and he's laying down when the shadow passes over him. *fist shake* I BELIEEEVE.

2. Don't quite know what to believe regarding the drawings 'summoning' Mr. Slendacles, but I like it.

3. Looked at the pictures of the unknown faces from Inquiry to see if one of the heads matched the shape of the sillhouete. Unable to accurately tell due to the warping of the unknown faces.

4. Why were the lights on and his door at the end of the "hallway" open when Alex entered his house? I know our family, when we're all gone, sometimes leaves the lights and TV on (there's usually at least one other car here, even if we're all gone) to ward off potential burglars as it gives the illusion that someone's still there, but if that was Alex's current residence (house or hotel/motel room), then Alex would have just had the one car, so it might've been fair game for anybody to enter.

5. Adding to 4, I went back and listened and heard him apparently fumbling with keys during the 'darkness' as he entered.

6. I like the call-back to Entry 19 (my favorite from S1), when The Operator appeared and the 'film' started skipping, right before Alex was taken.
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muted wrote:
So when I saw this entry I thought it was kinda strange how the scenes skip. Usually the entry's are sort of a single shot sequence. So I timed each skip with the newest totheark video.
darth nilhilus wrote:

Ok, so you know how someone ran a spectogram on the inquiry video and it showed the message "should I help, or should I kill?"? MAYBE, since the audio input that forms that message starts at the point when the zeros appear on the inquiry video, which is the ninth frame, and the ninth frame is also when the operator appears in entry #44, perhaps this means that the operator is trying to decide to have mercy on, or hurt/kill alex. This would also mean that TTA would have to somehow know what the operator is thinking, however, so it's a longshot.

Excellent thinking all around.
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Zarggg wrote:
It's now apparent that the drawings Alex and the Operator symbol do summon him. That means one of two things:
Alex has always been compromised, even before he gave the tapes to Jay. The footage we saw of him with Amy was kind of like being a "sleeper agent" who was reactivated when Amy's discovery of the camera brought the Operator back into the picture.

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Did anyone else find themselves remembering BloodyForehead!Alex during the mirror scene?


I'm a proponent of the summoning theory, but the more I think about it, the more it seems to make Alex's "reactivation" questionable. Why is the camera such a big deal, amongst all other cameras? And if it is such a deal, why didn't he get rid of it? Something about that camera is powerful enough to summon the Operator in a matter of minutes/seconds, whereas the symbol seems to cause some wait.

I did think of the bloody forehead! But never in my life have I coughed hard enough to propel my own saliva onto my forehead unless Alex rubbed his face in the sink afterwards .

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 		I think the drawings may be out of obsession, or out of a "The Operator is/will be/has been here" sort of thing.
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 		I'm going to subscribe to the theory of the "Slender sickness" is the withdrawal from contact with the Operator, thus Alex summonds him to him.

Hence why Alex keeps his distance from Jay and wants Jay to stay away from him, like the Operator is some bad drug that he was hooked on, got away from, then now is back hooked on him. It would explain Alex's hostile attitude towards Jay we see in Season 2.

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 		I agree that Alex was drawing The Operator to him, but why? Does he want to control it? Defeat it?

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 		I honestly don't know what to think of Alex at this point; he may be drawing in Slendy, but why? What could he have to gain? And if he is, then I'm pretty sure he's using the Camera to draw it to him, not the Operator symbol.

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 		Yeah, he's drawn to cameras.

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 		I don't think drawings are summoning him. In the older entries, Alex is fleeing from the Operator, and isn't being controlled. He wouldn't summon the guy he is running from. In this entry, Alex goes home, does nothing that requires him to be at home, and draws. If Alex was under Operator influence, why'd he need to go home and resummon him? If Alex wasn't under Operator influence at this time, why didn't he prepare himself for the Operator's arrival after drawing the symbol?

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