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12th
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Okay, not to make this Braceletgate all over again, but I want to call attention back to the changes in Alex's appearance:

1. Wearing pink/orange wristwatch in #44 when he was wearing a black-banded watch in #43
2. Dark blue shirt with no other visible decoration in #44, while wearing a lighter blue shirt with a bright stripe at the end of #43

I'll make three concessions here: 1) The only good look we get at his shirt, he's wearing the chest cam at roughly the level of where the stripe would have been. 2) The color of light in the apartment would probably tint alex's shirt to look a different shade of blue than it would look in natural sunlight. 3) It's possible that alex changed his shirt after getting home from his Rosswood adventure.

However, what we can't concede is that he changed watches. We have a fairly unbroken shot from when he arrived at the apartment through to his call to Jessica. Immediately following this, we get a short, stable shot of Alex's hands and wrists - showing the new watch band, and the extra woven bracelet (I'm iffy on whether or not Alex was wearing that other white bracelet at the end of #43).

I'm thinking that we might be compelled to make a connection to "I got in touch with Amy", and the short, meaningful shot of Alex's new wrist-wear.

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Of course, someone has mentioned on here that part, if not all, of this entry was shot during season 1 - which would account for possible costuming changes. Still, that's a pretty glaring change if it is expected to be overlooked.


So, did Alex actually visit Amy - wherever she was taken and he was able to exchange some token? Something to remind him of why he contacted the Operator?

FYI, I checked on Entry #26 - Amy is not wearing a watch on her left wrist. I didn't see a shot of her right one to see if she is wearing a watch on that hand.

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NewInTown2
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12th wrote:
Okay, not to make this Braceletgate all over again, but I want to call attention back to the changes in Alex's appearance:

1. Wearing pink/orange wristwatch in #44 when he was wearing a black-banded watch in #43
2. Dark blue shirt with no other visible decoration in #44, while wearing a lighter blue shirt with a bright stripe at the end of #43

I'll make three concessions here: 1) The only good look we get at his shirt, he's wearing the chest cam at roughly the level of where the stripe would have been. 2) The color of light in the apartment would probably tint alex's shirt to look a different shade of blue than it would look in natural sunlight. 3) It's possible that alex changed his shirt after getting home from his Rosswood adventure.

However, what we can't concede is that he changed watches. We have a fairly unbroken shot from when he arrived at the apartment through to his call to Jessica. Immediately following this, we get a short, stable shot of Alex's hands and wrists - showing the new watch band, and the extra woven bracelet (I'm iffy on whether or not Alex was wearing that other white bracelet at the end of #43).

I'm thinking that we might be compelled to make a connection to "I got in touch with Amy", and the short, meaningful shot of Alex's new wrist-wear.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Of course, someone has mentioned on here that part, if not all, of this entry was shot during season 1 - which would account for possible costuming changes. Still, that's a pretty glaring change if it is expected to be overlooked.


So, did Alex actually visit Amy - wherever she was taken and he was able to exchange some token? Something to remind him of why he contacted the Operator?

FYI, I checked on Entry #26 - Amy is not wearing a watch on her left wrist. I didn't see a shot of her right one to see if she is wearing a watch on that hand.


That's pretty much what I said some pages ago Razz So ^ATHOUSANDTIMESTHIS

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StarlitVixen
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Osiris wrote:
I don't think drawings are summoning him. In the older entries, Alex is fleeing from the Operator, and isn't being controlled. He wouldn't summon the guy he is running from. In this entry, Alex goes home, does nothing that requires him to be at home, and draws. If Alex was under Operator influence, why'd he need to go home and resummon him? If Alex wasn't under Operator influence at this time, why didn't he prepare himself for the Operator's arrival after drawing the symbol?


In older entries, maybe Alex didn't understand what he was doing. It's not like he had some greater knowledge of the Operator, he learned it over time after many encounters.
In #43, he knowingly searched out the Operator.
In #44, I am willing to bet he willingly summoned him somehow to him. If not, he was definitely wanting for him.

Truth is, we don't know what happened between #43 and #44. Maybe, like others have said before, Alex wasn't under a trance and he somehow fled from the Operator. Something must have changed between the two entries that Jay isn't showing (or that Alex didn't record, I guess, but that's a stretch for an ARG) that changed his mindset?

Maybe there is a bit of truth in how he "got in touch" with Amy... Though I'm more inclined to believe he was lying there.

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Zebez
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So this is the first time I've posted on this forum. But I've been stalking it for weeks.

Anyway, I felt compelled to comment on the idea that the symbols summon Slim Slendy. As a general part of the Slender Man mythos, it is believed that once you know about him, he will come and get you. That's part of the paranoia because you can't just erase him from your memory as you would like. And we can all agree that there is something really unsettling about a really tall business man without a face. Then the fact that he could be anywhere, show up at anytime just heightens that fear.

And this leads to what I have read about the operator symbol. When you see it, it makes you think of him. The more you think of him, the more present in your life he is, and the more he takes over. Having someone stalk you, and cause physical harm to you (as judging from previous entries, we can guess is true) can cause extreme trauma. Especially if the cause of that trauma is a paranormal entity that people won't believe exists, and thus is harder to convince people about (on top of the fact that if someone wre to be convinced of this, then the person who just informed a naive person may feel guilt because they may have caused someone to be slenderstalked.) But those who often go through trauma often try to relive that trauma, so maybe that's what the symbol drawing is really about. Maybe Alex is drawing those symbols as a fixation on what has happened in his life, and when you draw those symbols, you're thinking of him intensely, so the operator's like "Oh hai someone's thinking of me." and he goes to them and Alex's get his "fix" as some other people would say.

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Zebez wrote:
So this is the first time I've posted on this forum. But I've been stalking it for weeks.

Anyway, I felt compelled to comment on the idea that the symbols summon Slim Slendy. As a general part of the Slender Man mythos, it is believed that once you know about him, he will come and get you. That's part of the paranoia because you can't just erase him from your memory as you would like. And we can all agree that there is something really unsettling about a really tall business man without a face. Then the fact that he could be anywhere, show up at anytime just heightens that fear.

And this leads to what I have read about the operator symbol. When you see it, it makes you think of him. The more you think of him, the more present in your life he is, and the more he takes over. Having someone stalk you, and cause physical harm to you (as judging from previous entries, we can guess is true) can cause extreme trauma. Especially if the cause of that trauma is a paranormal entity that people won't believe exists, and thus is harder to convince people about (on top of the fact that if someone wre to be convinced of this, then the person who just informed a naive person may feel guilt because they may have caused someone to be slenderstalked.) But those who often go through trauma often try to relive that trauma, so maybe that's what the symbol drawing is really about. Maybe Alex is drawing those symbols as a fixation on what has happened in his life, and when you draw those symbols, you're thinking of him intensely, so the operator's like "Oh hai someone's thinking of me." and he goes to them and Alex's get his "fix" as some other people would say.


By 'fix' are you implying an addictive quality to the Operator's presence, that the Operator itself derives some pleasure from stalking Alex, or that the Operator's proximity relieves some of the traumatic effects Alex is suffering from?

Also, welcome to the forums. Cool

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Welcome to the forums, and great first post!

However, Alex does seem to be clearly afraid of The Operator. The way he reacted in 42 doesn't sound like he really wants to hear about it.

And if the symbol is a call, then why did he draw it on the tape in 26, and why in many helpful TTA videos is the symbol there?
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Am I the only one that doesn't think the bracelets/watches are of any importance?

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Randoman96 wrote:
Welcome to the forums, and great first post!

However, Alex does seem to be clearly afraid of The Operator. The way he reacted in 42 doesn't sound like he really wants to hear about it.

And if the symbol is a call, then why did he draw it on the tape in 26, and why in many helpful TTA videos is the symbol there?


Though someone may be afraid of whatever their traumatic experience was, people tend to find ways of reliving it from what I know from listening to Dr. Drew, and some other research into trauma. Fear is addictive too, because it releases endorphines. So in escence, Slendy's presence could be seen as a "drug" or "fix"

And the symbol may not be a direct call, but it just makes you think of the operator. He doesn't appear everytime you think of him, but over time, if you become fixated on it enough, he'll probably show up. As for the ToTheArk videos, the operator symbol is instantly recognizable, and directly associated with the operator, so it's a good tool for someone who speaks almost entirely in coded messages and symbolism.

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Yuki wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't think the bracelets/watches are of any importance?


Then why do they focus so much on them/change them?

In an ARG it's normal that people will be looking at details to get some possible clues. And I hope Troy and Joseph are enough aware of this to try and keep simple things (like the bracelets or a shirt) the same IF there was no way they could have been changed (I'm sorry if I'm not clear enough, English isn't my native language so it is not always easy Razz)

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MH is a story, not an ARG.

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I doubt the bracelets are significant beyond an identifier for who is behind the camera. There are specific visual character traits that you'll notice, such as Alex's glasses, shorts and bracelet. Jay wears hoodies, hats and full pants.

Since we're switching to full on chest-cam now, it's possible people other than Alex (e.g. Jay) may be using it. This way, we know if there is a bracelet - it's Alex. If not - it's Jay.

See?
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Yuki wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't think the bracelets/watches are of any importance?


you're not the only one. i legitimately believe they're mocking the people who keep posting about bracelet theories but that's just me.

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Yes, because Troseph are so well known for mocking the viewers. Shut up.
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So MH isn't an ARG? Well goodbye then!

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NewInTown2 wrote:
So MH isn't an ARG? Well goodbye then!


It's because ARGs are usually heavily interactive and usually require player involvement. Marble Hornets is more of a semi-interactive story, since Jay interacts with viewers on Twitter occasionally.
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