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Zebez
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Randoman96 wrote:
It's more likely than the drawings summoning TO. I don't buy that. There have been plenty of times where the symbol exists, yet TO is not there. Even in many TTA videos that are trying to be helpful, but the symbol is there.


I'd actually like to see the evidence supporting this also. I know there is distortion when he draws the symbol, but I dunno, the operator's appearance isn't immediate. I don't really think just drawing the symbol summons him in itself, but that it just makes the drawer more paranoid/concentrated on him, to the point where Slendy shows up.

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-Etrocal wrote:
This is more or less unrelated to this entry, but near the beginning of MH J mentioned that all of the tapes he got from Alex couldn't be dated. Now that he's pulling footage from the hard drive though, every piece of footage in there is entirely dated down to the minute.

So when were they, Jay? When were they bro?

EDIT: Gaisle, yeah, that.


It's entirely possible that the footage on the hard drive is not reliably dated or even dated in order. If the date on the camera that recorded it wasn't set to the current date, we'd have incorrect dates. If the files were not copied to the hard drive in chronological order, we could have incorrect dates. And last but not least, the Operator's influence on the camera could alter the date or even just reset it to the default (probably 1/1/2000 or something like that). We see potential evidence of this happening previously, in enttry 37.

It's also possible that, not wanting Jay to be able to pinpoint events, Alex manually altered the dates of the files on the hard drive.

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Randoman96 wrote:
It's more likely than the drawings summoning TO. I don't buy that. There have been plenty of times where the symbol exists, yet TO is not there. Even in many TTA videos that are trying to be helpful, but the symbol is there.


Maybe it's not the symbol alone that does it, like "If the symbol is drawn by so-and-so then that exact drawing done by that specific person causes him to appear."

Alex is marked, and with this curse comes the Operator's arrival when the symbol is drawn by him.

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toolsquatch wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
It's more likely than the drawings summoning TO. I don't buy that. There have been plenty of times where the symbol exists, yet TO is not there. Even in many TTA videos that are trying to be helpful, but the symbol is there.


Maybe it's not the symbol alone that does it, like "If the symbol is drawn by so-and-so then that exact drawing done by that specific person causes him to appear."

Alex is marked, and with this curse comes the Operator's arrival when the symbol is drawn by him.


Maybe the symbol is a focus for intent. If the person drawing the symbol intends to summon the Operator, it has that effect. If the person drawing the symbol is intending to ward an area against the Operator, it has that effect.

It's been mentioned that it seemed like Alex was either working with the Operator or was somehow controlling/using him. Maybe that's part of how the symbol works, too.

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t3hkender wrote:
toolsquatch wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
It's more likely than the drawings summoning TO. I don't buy that. There have been plenty of times where the symbol exists, yet TO is not there. Even in many TTA videos that are trying to be helpful, but the symbol is there.


Maybe it's not the symbol alone that does it, like "If the symbol is drawn by so-and-so then that exact drawing done by that specific person causes him to appear."

Alex is marked, and with this curse comes the Operator's arrival when the symbol is drawn by him.


Maybe the symbol is a focus for intent. If the person drawing the symbol intends to summon the Operator, it has that effect. If the person drawing the symbol is intending to ward an area against the Operator, it has that effect.

It's been mentioned that it seemed like Alex was either working with the Operator or was somehow controlling/using him. Maybe that's part of how the symbol works, too.


Yeah, Candyman/Bloody Mary-style basically.

Hell, Alex might not even be special asides from the fact that he knows how to summon the Operator: for all we know in the MH world all it takes is drawing that symbol to get him showing.

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NewInTown2 wrote:

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I don't want to become "the bracelet guy". But in my opinion it has some significance Razz


Yeah, c'mon, that's MY territory!

Muted - nice first post, and welcome!

Someone said earlier that Amy had no watch on her left wrist and you never see her right in entry #26 - that's actually backwards. She's presumably holding the camera in her left hand and what appears to be either a pen or a cigarette in her right hand, seen briefly in a mirror. Neither a watch nor a bracelet is visible that I could see.

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Gaisle wrote:
I don't know if this has been said before, but I haven't seen it in this thread.


Does anyone think maybe Alex uses them as sort of a way to date his videos and link them together?


See, this sort of thing I can buy. Identifiers and maybe, maybe time markers. But anything else? I don't think so, myself. It just seems like a stretch.

I wonder if we'll ever actually get the symbol explained.

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 		rewatch entry 13

alex draws the operator symbol on a rock. makes it visible on camera.

he walks a certain distance straight ahead past the building. waits a few seconds, turns around and sees slendy behind the fence. he runs to the exact same spot where he drew the symbol, and runs into slendy there.

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pravado wrote:
rewatch entry 13

alex draws the operator symbol on a rock. makes it visible on camera.

he walks a certain distance straight ahead past the building. waits a few seconds, turns around and sees slendy behind the fence. he runs to the exact same spot where he drew the symbol, and runs into slendy there.

Um, dude, just because the symbol was there doesn't mean Alex drew it. He focused the camera on it because a bigass operator symbol scratched into a rock is out of the ordinary.

t3hkender wrote:
It's entirely possible that the footage on the hard drive is not reliably dated or even dated in order. If the date on the camera that recorded it wasn't set to the current date, we'd have incorrect dates. If the files were not copied to the hard drive in chronological order, we could have incorrect dates. And last but not least, the Operator's influence on the camera could alter the date or even just reset it to the default (probably 1/1/2000 or something like that). We see potential evidence of this happening previously, in enttry 37.

It's also possible that, not wanting Jay to be able to pinpoint events, Alex manually altered the dates of the files on the hard drive.
Y u slappin old man Occam across the face for?

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pravado wrote:
rewatch entry 13

alex draws the operator symbol on a rock. makes it visible on camera.

he walks a certain distance straight ahead past the building. waits a few seconds, turns around and sees slendy behind the fence. he runs to the exact same spot where he drew the symbol, and runs into slendy there.


I think that, if anything, this supports my 'the symbol is a warning' theory, rather than it being something that draws the Operator. The symbol is in plain sight, at the entrance to the building and is given the appearance of it being old. Alex look at it, but fo some reason continues in, implying that he

a) wasn't aware of exactly what the Operator could do

b) was thinking he could get around it

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 		Howdy everyone! I haven't been active for a while but trust me, I've been lurking. Posting is a pain on iPhone.

A couple of theories ( I skimmed to see if they'd already been said)

In terms of MH's roots. Alex's behaviour is the same as it was during the filming of "Marble Hornets" - a fairly obvious thing to notice. What's more is that this is only a fairly recent (in terms of the times of the tapes) thing to happen; before Amy whipped out the camera, his life was basically normal for a while. While this video suggests that the symbol has the power to summon the operator, I feel that "going back to our roots" is more than the return of a 'filming style', but also towards the initial clues and facts we all got from watching the first few entries.

Essentially, it's this business and behaviour of always being around a camera. Watching yourself from afar. Alex and Jay are both living this life of continually filming themselves.. And for some reason, never stop even though Alex basically proved that you could move away from it all and survive. Yet he still films, is still slendersick.

He's also incredibly bitchy to Jay, which to me is reminiscent of how he used to treat the 'Marble Hornets' cast and crew...

Also, about how he lied to Jessica. Something tells me that he's trying to lure her into something slendery. Whether or not he was in a trance or under control when he did it is another question.

EDIT: also, seeing as Jay is posting these up, we can assume that nothing exciting has happened to him and he is still filming himself.. But seeing as he would most likely be watching the vault footage rather than his own, it's no guarantee. Still, we can presume he's in a safe location and has been shooting a documentary on staying at hotels.
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 		Quick thought. Theories have been abound about Alex and the Operator symbol's purpose lately, and it inspired me to go back and watch a couple of things...

Entry #26 includes the tape with the footage of Amy and Skully. We know with a fair amount of certainty that this video was sent by Alex, to Jay. The tape ends with a red screen and a crudely scrawled "HELP" next to - you got it - the Operator symbol.

What was the purpose of drawing the Operator symbol on the screen here? To denote that he needs help because he is in Slendy-danger? Or was that the moment Jay was marked, and the Operator began focusing on him?
Perhaps that's why Alex made sure to ask "Did you get my tape?" He wanted to be sure that Jay had watched it, and thus marked himself.

NOTE: I think I got the "Did you get my tape?" quote wrong, but I can't re-watch the video at work very effectively, and there's no transcript on the wiki, so forgive me if I misspoke.

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 		I'm going to weigh in and say the symbol isn't a summoning thing.

Thinking back to series one, Alex obviously, at some stage, became aware of his shaky memory. It stands to reason that he also realised he was doing things, either not under his control, or without being able to recall them. I think that when we see Alex drawing, its a desperate attempt to hold on to some memories he's otherwise losing. I've often heard that if you want to remember your dreams, have a pad and jot stuff down the moment you wake up. As a result, I think the times you see Alex drawing, they're just as he's coming out of a trance - they're jumbled and messy, because that's what his memory is like, fractured and fading.


I have an unrelated question - where is this taking place? Something about those cardboard boxes is off. It looks like Alex has packed his possesions and moved somewhere else, but when did this happen? Entry 26 implies that Alex keeps (at least some of) his stuff at the house where Amy found the camera. Are we expecting that, after the encounter, he meandered back, packed his possesions into boxes, rented a van and moved out? The fact that everything is packed suggests a... preparedness that is very suspicous.

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 		Did anyone else notice something important?
The house he stays at is the same one he and Jay checked for Amy at. At least, I'm mostly sure it's the same house. And it would explain why he couldn't show Jay where he lives.

Eighty percent positive.

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MistrPibb wrote:
Did anyone else notice something important?
The house he stays at is the same one he and Jay checked for Amy at. At least, I'm mostly sure it's the same house. And it would explain why he couldn't show Jay where he lives.

Eighty percent positive.


I was thinking that, but I couldn't tell at night. Reference pictures? Or maybe I'll try to find some. I think this was mentioned earlier.

But why would Alex suddenly have the keys to go inside? Is this something to do with "getting in touch" with Amy?

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