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Randoman96
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DonMonte wrote:
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logical theories

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That hasn't been proven in any way.


Just because I defended Occam's Razor doesn't mean it's always applicable.
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Randoman96 wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
logical theories

Randoman96 wrote:
That hasn't been proven in any way.


Just because I defended Occam's Razor doesn't mean it's always applicable.


I'm not talking about Occam's Razor (I don't really think it has any place in this series), I'm just talking about you shooting down someone's theory for no real reason. There is evidence that the symbol summons the Operator, even if it isn't a whole lot of evidence, and even if it's wrong. It's one way, among many, to explain the correlation between the symbol and the Operator's proximity to it.

And, like I said, aside from the symbol summoning Oppy thing... it would be nice to have some evidence as to who made those first symbols, and why the Operator showed up in the first place.

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I didn't shoot down the theory. It's full well possible. It's just that people act like it's been proven, instead of being simple speculation.
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Aah, I see... my bad then.

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After reading many theories and reading the discussions about this video in particular I noticed a sort of trend in relation to the story overall:
Most of us on the forums use "slendysickness", "Possessed", "Marked", and other words with the same synonymous meaning...that the operator has caused you to loose your memory, possibly go insane, cough and other symptoms.

But my theory is that they aren't one in the same. Since Alex got away but was drawn back due to the camera(or the video tape in the camera) it seems that after you are marked there is a chance to get away. If we go off this fact then maybe there are 2 or 3 stages to being possessed by TO:

--Stage 1 is where you are "marked" lose your memory and the like(coughing, fatigue, etc) and eventually you make it to stage 2.

--Stage 2 is where you are pretty much cracked up mentally. This could fuel the idea of multiple TTAs, as in they are trying to break free of TO's influence and posting these videos to help J and Alex is their way of fighting

--Stage 3 you are possessed by the Slender man, simple as that, and maybe that is what happened to Amy, Seth, or other crew members of MH. They are...somewhere(speculation on where is moot by this point because we haven't seen them much)

Maybe people who were less paranoid or simply didn't notice the changes in time got possessed really easily, like Amy or even Jessica. Remember that in the beginning the losses of memory were shorter gaps than 7 months and maybe happened at night when you wouldn't remember anyway. And Alex was able to fight it off because he filmed so much he caught TO in the vids and became more vigilant in monitoring his actions. and now that j is "Marked" he is beginning to go down the same road but Alex wants to stop it from happening to J or anyone else(and save Amy-the saving the princess plot never gets old)

Long post I know but correct me where I'm wrong and and tell me what you think

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ICEAL3X wrote:
After reading many theories and reading the discussions about this video in particular I noticed a sort of trend in relation to the story overall:
Most of us on the forums use "slendysickness", "Possessed", "Marked", and other words with the same synonymous meaning...that the operator has caused you to loose your memory, possibly go insane, cough and other symptoms.

But my theory is that they aren't one in the same. Since Alex got away but was drawn back due to the camera(or the video tape in the camera) it seems that after you are marked there is a chance to get away. If we go off this fact then maybe there are 2 or 3 stages to being possessed by TO:

--Stage 1 is where you are "marked" lose your memory and the like(coughing, fatigue, etc) and eventually you make it to stage 2.

--Stage 2 is where you are pretty much cracked up mentally. This could fuel the idea of multiple TTAs, as in they are trying to break free of TO's influence and posting these videos to help J and Alex is their way of fighting

--Stage 3 you are possessed by the Slender man, simple as that, and maybe that is what happened to Amy, Seth, or other crew members of MH. They are...somewhere(speculation on where is moot by this point because we haven't seen them much)

Maybe people who were less paranoid or simply didn't notice the changes in time got possessed really easily, like Amy or even Jessica. Remember that in the beginning the losses of memory were shorter gaps than 7 months and maybe happened at night when you wouldn't remember anyway. And Alex was able to fight it off because he filmed so much he caught TO in the vids and became more vigilant in monitoring his actions. and now that j is "Marked" he is beginning to go down the same road but Alex wants to stop it from happening to J or anyone else(and save Amy-the saving the princess plot never gets old)

Long post I know but correct me where I'm wrong and and tell me what you think


Long post indeed, but you made a lot of sense. I like this, I like this very much.
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ICEAL3X wrote:
After reading many theories and reading the discussions about this video in particular I noticed a sort of trend in relation to the story overall:
Most of us on the forums use "slendysickness", "Possessed", "Marked", and other words with the same synonymous meaning...that the operator has caused you to loose your memory, possibly go insane, cough and other symptoms.

But my theory is that they aren't one in the same. Since Alex got away but was drawn back due to the camera(or the video tape in the camera) it seems that after you are marked there is a chance to get away. If we go off this fact then maybe there are 2 or 3 stages to being possessed by TO:

--Stage 1 is where you are "marked" lose your memory and the like(coughing, fatigue, etc) and eventually you make it to stage 2.

--Stage 2 is where you are pretty much cracked up mentally. This could fuel the idea of multiple TTAs, as in they are trying to break free of TO's influence and posting these videos to help J and Alex is their way of fighting

--Stage 3 you are possessed by the Slender man, simple as that, and maybe that is what happened to Amy, Seth, or other crew members of MH. They are...somewhere(speculation on where is moot by this point because we haven't seen them much)

Maybe people who were less paranoid or simply didn't notice the changes in time got possessed really easily, like Amy or even Jessica. Remember that in the beginning the losses of memory were shorter gaps than 7 months and maybe happened at night when you wouldn't remember anyway. And Alex was able to fight it off because he filmed so much he caught TO in the vids and became more vigilant in monitoring his actions. and now that j is "Marked" he is beginning to go down the same road but Alex wants to stop it from happening to J or anyone else(and save Amy-the saving the princess plot never gets old)

Long post I know but correct me where I'm wrong and and tell me what you think


Perhaps my reading comprehension is off, but you sound like you're saying that slendysickness and being marked/possessed are the same thing, only at different stages.

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Yes I think that would be a bit more accurate in what I am trying to describe. I think the point of saying they weren't was to try to make a path of sorts going from one stage to the other and each one had a different term that could apply, mostly because the behavior of the characters doesn't constantly match what we have come to understand as being "marked" or "slendysick"

Maybe that is why in entry 44 Alex is entering into a more "possessed" stage because he thinks that he could save everyone else if he gives To himself.

I'm not completely sold on the theory that Alex is in cahoots/ a double agent. I can see that in some of the recent entries alex isn't exactly doing his best to help but I believe that we'll see why quite soon

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I do agree in that I see marked/possessed/slendysickness as the same thing.

The best single word I can think of to describe it is affects. His very existence and proximity is enough to make some very weird and very bad things happen to people.

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Just weighing in with an idea, I attempted to trawl through the thread and didn't see anyone mentioning it.

While Slendy is on camera, the light from the lamp appears to dim and then rapidly increases in intensity, culminating with Slendy disappearing from the image.

To me, this seems like the first actually concrete evidence that Slendy, or activities perpetrated by Slendy, have some sort of effect on electromagnetic waves. While this has been speculated at due to distortion on cameras used to record him, this is the first time to my knowledge that Slendy has affected something else making use of electromagnetic waves other than the camera in his immediate environment.

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mycowlikesmilk wrote:
While Slendy is on camera, the light from the lamp appears to dim and then rapidly increases in intensity, culminating with Slendy disappearing from the image.
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this is the first time to my knowledge that Slendy has affected something else making use of electromagnetic waves other than the camera in his immediate environment.


I actually saw this as the camera losing resolution/brightness rather than the light going out (since the picture sorta has color/polarization distortion). Still, you have a point, we don't really see him mess with anything other than cameras so far.

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Zarggg wrote:
I do agree in that I see marked/possessed/slendysickness as the same thing.

The best single word I can think of to describe it is affects. His very existence and proximity is enough to make some very weird and very bad things happen to people.


I see your point, considering that most of the time we only see a few seconds of his presence before $--T hits the fan. But there is some details that bug me about that because there are instances where his presence is noted, but we don't have the same effects. For example, In S1 where the vid of Alex scoping out the places with J and the MH crew, TO shows up and they just try to shoo him off stage(entry 6 I believe, someone correct me if I'm wrong) and in Entry 40, when J comes about 2 feet from TO, he just simply runs. In entry 43, Alex was at least 4 or 5 feet away when he fell and became possessed. It begs the question of To's sentience and if he can be communicated with, and if his Marking/Poseesion is his way of doing so.

That last part was more or less speculation but the point is there are discrepancies in the effects of the presence of TO. That led me to believe, and create, the separate stages theory.

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ICEAL3X wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
I do agree in that I see marked/possessed/slendysickness as the same thing.

The best single word I can think of to describe it is affects. His very existence and proximity is enough to make some very weird and very bad things happen to people.


I see your point, considering that most of the time we only see a few seconds of his presence before $--T hits the fan. But there is some details that bug me about that because there are instances where his presence is noted, but we don't have the same effects. For example, In S1 where the vid of Alex scoping out the places with J and the MH crew, TO shows up and they just try to shoo him off stage(entry 6 I believe, someone correct me if I'm wrong) and in Entry 40, when J comes about 2 feet from TO, he just simply runs. In entry 43, Alex was at least 4 or 5 feet away when he fell and became possessed. It begs the question of To's sentience and if he can be communicated with, and if his Marking/Poseesion is his way of doing so.

That last part was more or less speculation but the point is there are discrepancies in the effects of the presence of TO. That led me to believe, and create, the separate stages theory.



I'm becoming more and more of the opinion that TO can, at least to some degree, control or focus the effects he has.

My current theory is that what happens depends on your action towards TO. You mention entry 40 - yes, Jay nearly treads on the Operator, but legs it in the opposite direction immediately. The complete opposite happens in entry 43. I think that the Operator was thretened by Alex - remember, for the most part during MH we've seen people (coughJay) run and hide, instead Alex went after him. And the result was TO deciding to take Alex down. It wasn't just a chronic cough, Alex went down almost instantly, and the camera screwed up shortly after.

I wonder... might the Operator be learning? Perhaps he/it/whatever has realised the effect he has on these people following him with cameras, and has taken to using this effect when need be. Of course, most people never need to be hit as hard as Alex, that's why we've not seen it so much...

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I have to admit, I'm loving the idea that the TTA video links up with this video. I don't believe Jay would have done it unless my belief that he is partially TTA is true.

My favourite theory about the drawings is Alex trying to remember what's happened. Or, writing down things he's hearing in his head possibly. But I think the memory thing works better. If you watch him he's drawing quite intensely. It's not "Oh lets doodle for a bit". It's "I need to get this shit down right now".

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ICEAL3X wrote:


I see your point, considering that most of the time we only see a few seconds of his presence before $--T hits the fan. But there is some details that bug me about that because there are instances where his presence is noted, but we don't have the same effects. For example, In S1 where the vid of Alex scoping out the places with J and the MH crew, TO shows up and they just try to shoo him off stage(entry 6 I believe, someone correct me if I'm wrong) and in Entry 40, when J comes about 2 feet from TO, he just simply runs. In entry 43, Alex was at least 4 or 5 feet away when he fell and became possessed. It begs the question of To's sentience and if he can be communicated with, and if his Marking/Poseesion is his way of doing so.



it was entry 12 actually.

I think this theory is really already a theory. There have always been talks of "degrees" of Slender-sickness. The possession we saw in entry 44 seemed to be the final stage.
It also really seems like the Operator is gaining power. He was just kinda hanging out in season 1, but now that everyone is terrified after teleportation and other strange happenings, there is a strong fear of anything Slendy related. I'm not sure if I would go so far as to say he is gaining a face or whatever, but he seems to definitely be getting stronger.

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