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Deneb
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Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 35 Location: South Pole
murpha site I was at the Murpha.com home page and did some research on the quote from Appius Claudius. "Every man is the architect of his own fortune".
The actual quote is from Appius Claudius "Caecus" and the quote is different. "Every man is the Smith of his own fortune".
Has this been posted elsewhere and could this be a L/P to somewhere.
The reference to Smith is toooo coincidental.
Chills.
Http://www.murpha.com
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:58 pm
ChainedLightning
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Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 85
Wow - good find.
I wonder if there are perhaps web pages we can access? smith.htm maybe? I'll play around with it.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:20 pm
ChainedLightning
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That got me nowhere... tried .htm and .html and directory structures... nothing.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:23 pm
Deneb
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Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 35 Location: South Pole
could this be a L/P to www.lifeandcasualty.com
Http://www.lifeandcasualty.com
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:28 pm
ChainedLightning
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No - the message is still "private" - the other sites were like that before they went live, too.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:36 pm
trip
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Yes, good find! I'm betting it is just kind of an easter egg, rather than a clue (because it's so overtly Matrix-y). I'd be curious to see what Anthrax thinks...
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:29 am
Insomniac
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Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 234 Location: 01
Re: murpha site
Deneb wrote:
I was at the Murpha.com home page and did some research on the quote from Appius Claudius.
"Every man is the architect of his own fortune".
The actual quote is from Appius Claudius "Caecus" and the quote is different.
"Every man is the Smith of his own fortune".
They like to play with quotes in this ARG don't they!
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:33 pm
el kabong
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Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 38
I couldn't find a reference to the "Smith" quote anywhere relating to Appius. All of the ones I found had "architect". Where did you find that?
I did find reference to the "smith" quote when I typed "Every man is the smith of his own fortune" (with quotes to delimit) in Google. It found only one link, to a church in Blechtington (!) England.
http://www.grandsire.fsnet.co.uk/bletchingdon.html
The quote apprently is on a church bell there, although in Latin (FABER EST SUAE QUISQUE FORTUNAE).
A clue?
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:51 pm
King Mob
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Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 289 Location: England
el kabong wrote:
I couldn't find a reference to the "Smith" quote anywhere relating to Appius. All of the ones I found had "architect". Where did you find that?
I did find reference to the "smith" quote when I typed "Every man is the smith of his own fortune" (with quotes to delimit) in Google. It found only one link, to a church in Blechtington (!) England.
http://www.grandsire.fsnet.co.uk/bletchingdon.html
The quote apprently is on a church bell there, although in Latin (FABER EST SUAE QUISQUE FORTUNAE).
A clue?
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:56 pm
yeahyeah
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el kabong wrote:
I couldn't find a reference to the "Smith" quote anywhere relating to Appius. All of the ones I found had "architect". Where did you find that?
I did find reference to the "smith" quote when I typed "Every man is the smith of his own fortune" (with quotes to delimit) in Google. It found only one link, to a church in Blechtington (!) England.
http://www.grandsire.fsnet.co.uk/bletchingdon.html
The quote apprently is on a church bell there, although in Latin (FABER EST SUAE QUISQUE FORTUNAE).
A clue?
So where does that leave us, does that mean that there were two translations to english, that are a bit different, or was the guys original quote revised at some point to be more universal and that one took, or are we looking at an easter egg/clue.
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:56 pm
LazarusLong
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Joined: 20 Mar 2003 Posts: 453 Location: 93 miles SW of Ted Kaczynski's cabin
Taking the original Latin quote, and performing a word for word translation (mainly because I enjoy playing with Latin) leads to the following:
Quote:
FABER : workman, artisan; smith; carpenter
EST : to be, exist, is
SUAE : his/one's (own), her (own), hers, its (own); (pl.) their (own), theirs
QUISQUE : (w/-que) each, each one; every, everybody, everything (more than 2); whatever;
FORTUNAE : chance, luck, fate; prosperity; condition, wealth, property
In this case, smith would refer to what we would call a blacksmith.
Freely translated, this would mean "Everyone makes their own fate", or "Everybody is the smith of their own fortune". A later translation might substitute "architect" for the more archaic "smith".
Personally, I'm inclined to believe that it's a rather clever Easter Egg from the PM's, giving us the two leading words "smith" and "architect", but placing on a web page for an architecture firm, where it would seem apropos.
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:41 pm
Karl H
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projects Did anyone notice that Murpha is engaged in projects with Metacortechs and Aquapolis?
www.murpha.com/projects.html
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 1:37 pm
Insomniac
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Re: projects
Karl H wrote:
Did anyone notice that Murpha is engaged in projects with Metacortechs and Aquapolis?
www.murpha.com/projects.html
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's been mentioned.
Think it was talked about here among other places...
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=28769#28769
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 1:41 pm
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yeahyeah
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Re: projects
Karl H wrote:
Did anyone notice that Murpha is engaged in projects with Metacortechs and Aquapolis?
www.murpha.com/projects.html
which gives us a nice full circle.. metacortechs writes ai software for aquapols, aquapolis is built by murpha, murpha built some metacortechs offices, metacortechs and murpha ceos were good friends, both sets of CEOs took care of Jesse at different times, both were disappeared in a sense.. fun fun fun..
But can that series of connections be considered a puzzle? I'll try nd think of a way of working the quote into all that :)
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 1:44 pm
ChainedLightning
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Re: projects
yeahyeah wrote:
metacortechs and murpha ceos were good friends, both sets of CEOs took care of Jesse at different times,
Ryan was CEO of Murpha? Where are you getting that?
The contact page shows that Robert Emerson is CEO
http://www.murpha.com/contacts.html
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 2:37 pm
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