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DonMonte
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xxxblindxxx wrote:
ugh i hate people who make random theories just to throw in any theory.

im not sure if people are aware but there are 3 known masks

Masky=tim
Skully= unidentified
Blasky= unidentified, possibly TTA

nothing has confirmed that TTA and the maskies are one and the same. one of the first videos was trying to show us who masky really was. which wouldnt make sense from TTA POV in the series to stay hidden.

it definitely looks like skully is sitting next to masky when he goes to hit alex and he definitely stumbles down to the grounds. next


Heh... Skully isn't even really known to be a mask at all, unless I've missed something big.

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ToTheMask wrote:
I think people need to step back for a bit and gain a clear, concise understanding of what is shown in this video and what is pure speculation.

WHAT IS SHOWN:

- Alex sees someone outside of his house, grabs his camera and runs after the figure. We cannot really tell who he is chasing aside from the fact it's a hooded figure.
- He chases the figure for a while (seriously, I was watching this and wondering whether he has lungs of a GOD) before finally being confronted by the figure. He takes a shot to the head, whether it be a tackle/fist/whatever else, and is promptly hovered over by Masky and an unknown figure on the left.
- Masky is about to give Alex a rock-flavoured facelift when they see something that scared the bejesus out of them and they run in mortal fear.
- Alex gets all gangsta and starts yelling out towards them before heavy distortion and the video ends.

Now, outside of that, a lot of the speculation going on in this thread is just that: pure speculation. Unless the MH team plainly state it, we can only guess.

THINGS TO PONDER

- We have seen numerous times in the TTA vids that TTA has something against Alex. There are numerous instances within the replies that they question Alex's motives. This vid clearly proves (at the very least) that Masky has a serious revenge streak against Alex, and that he is pretty damn bitter over the damage that Alex gave to his leg (evidently trying to do damage to him with a similar weapon). Whether Tims leg was broken or not, we aren't completely sure, but we know it was damaged and that it has obviously taken its toll on Timaskys mobility (see: the poor bugger trying to chase after Jay in the hotel and just looking quite sad in present day MH, which indicates it's quite a serious injury).

- It's quite obvious that Masky has allies, or at least others that are willing to be used as bait to pull Alex away from their home. We've seen shots of Skully, Masky, Hoody and Blasky in the TTA replies and MH videos, so the appearance of a fifth hooded character would be a bit much for the MH team to keep up with in my personal opinion. Maybe one of them decided to use a different mask, maybe it's a new character, we don't know. All we know is that they assisted Masky in bringing Alex out into the woods to beat the living piss out of him with a big ol' rock.

- As for Alex/TO being buddies because of TO showing up at the end in a 'He's mine, feck off' sort of way, it could go either way. We really can only speculate until MH or TTA give us a definite answer as to what the heck is going on.

Until then, in my honest opinion, it's going to be interesting to see how they sew it all together and show how the present day Jay is linked in with this whole TTA/Alex/Operator story that's going down other than being a completely oblivious and sometimes idiotic narrator.


Blasky and hoody are the same people. And he never showed up in a TTA response.

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Cleavuz wrote:
ToTheMask wrote:
I think people need to step back for a bit and gain a clear, concise understanding of what is shown in this video and what is pure speculation.

WHAT IS SHOWN:

- Alex sees someone outside of his house, grabs his camera and runs after the figure. We cannot really tell who he is chasing aside from the fact it's a hooded figure.
- He chases the figure for a while (seriously, I was watching this and wondering whether he has lungs of a GOD) before finally being confronted by the figure. He takes a shot to the head, whether it be a tackle/fist/whatever else, and is promptly hovered over by Masky and an unknown figure on the left.
- Masky is about to give Alex a rock-flavoured facelift when they see something that scared the bejesus out of them and they run in mortal fear.
- Alex gets all gangsta and starts yelling out towards them before heavy distortion and the video ends.

Now, outside of that, a lot of the speculation going on in this thread is just that: pure speculation. Unless the MH team plainly state it, we can only guess.

THINGS TO PONDER

- We have seen numerous times in the TTA vids that TTA has something against Alex. There are numerous instances within the replies that they question Alex's motives. This vid clearly proves (at the very least) that Masky has a serious revenge streak against Alex, and that he is pretty damn bitter over the damage that Alex gave to his leg (evidently trying to do damage to him with a similar weapon). Whether Tims leg was broken or not, we aren't completely sure, but we know it was damaged and that it has obviously taken its toll on Timaskys mobility (see: the poor bugger trying to chase after Jay in the hotel and just looking quite sad in present day MH, which indicates it's quite a serious injury).

- It's quite obvious that Masky has allies, or at least others that are willing to be used as bait to pull Alex away from their home. We've seen shots of Skully, Masky, Hoody and Blasky in the TTA replies and MH videos, so the appearance of a fifth hooded character would be a bit much for the MH team to keep up with in my personal opinion. Maybe one of them decided to use a different mask, maybe it's a new character, we don't know. All we know is that they assisted Masky in bringing Alex out into the woods to beat the living piss out of him with a big ol' rock.

- As for Alex/TO being buddies because of TO showing up at the end in a 'He's mine, feck off' sort of way, it could go either way. We really can only speculate until MH or TTA give us a definite answer as to what the heck is going on.

Until then, in my honest opinion, it's going to be interesting to see how they sew it all together and show how the present day Jay is linked in with this whole TTA/Alex/Operator story that's going down other than being a completely oblivious and sometimes idiotic narrator.


Blasky and hoody are the same people. And he never showed up in a TTA response.


My apologies, I should say TTA replies *or* MH vids. And yeah, you're right, I keep on thinking they're different entities for some reason.

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xxxblindxxx
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DonMonte wrote:
xxxblindxxx wrote:
ugh i hate people who make random theories just to throw in any theory.

im not sure if people are aware but there are 3 known masks

Masky=tim
Skully= unidentified
Blasky= unidentified, possibly TTA

nothing has confirmed that TTA and the maskies are one and the same. one of the first videos was trying to show us who masky really was. which wouldnt make sense from TTA POV in the series to stay hidden.

it definitely looks like skully is sitting next to masky when he goes to hit alex and he definitely stumbles down to the grounds. next


Heh... Skully isn't even really known to be a mask at all, unless I've missed something big.




skully has been proven to be a mask.

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After reading through all of the theories, reading about how people believe it was The Operator that helped Alex out, etc, I just have one question:


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
DO I HELP OR DO I KILL?

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ToTheMask wrote:
Cleavuz wrote:
ToTheMask wrote:
I think people need to step back for a bit and gain a clear, concise understanding of what is shown in this video and what is pure speculation.

WHAT IS SHOWN:

- Alex sees someone outside of his house, grabs his camera and runs after the figure. We cannot really tell who he is chasing aside from the fact it's a hooded figure.
- He chases the figure for a while (seriously, I was watching this and wondering whether he has lungs of a GOD) before finally being confronted by the figure. He takes a shot to the head, whether it be a tackle/fist/whatever else, and is promptly hovered over by Masky and an unknown figure on the left.
- Masky is about to give Alex a rock-flavoured facelift when they see something that scared the bejesus out of them and they run in mortal fear.
- Alex gets all gangsta and starts yelling out towards them before heavy distortion and the video ends.

Now, outside of that, a lot of the speculation going on in this thread is just that: pure speculation. Unless the MH team plainly state it, we can only guess.

THINGS TO PONDER

- We have seen numerous times in the TTA vids that TTA has something against Alex. There are numerous instances within the replies that they question Alex's motives. This vid clearly proves (at the very least) that Masky has a serious revenge streak against Alex, and that he is pretty damn bitter over the damage that Alex gave to his leg (evidently trying to do damage to him with a similar weapon). Whether Tims leg was broken or not, we aren't completely sure, but we know it was damaged and that it has obviously taken its toll on Timaskys mobility (see: the poor bugger trying to chase after Jay in the hotel and just looking quite sad in present day MH, which indicates it's quite a serious injury).

- It's quite obvious that Masky has allies, or at least others that are willing to be used as bait to pull Alex away from their home. We've seen shots of Skully, Masky, Hoody and Blasky in the TTA replies and MH videos, so the appearance of a fifth hooded character would be a bit much for the MH team to keep up with in my personal opinion. Maybe one of them decided to use a different mask, maybe it's a new character, we don't know. All we know is that they assisted Masky in bringing Alex out into the woods to beat the living piss out of him with a big ol' rock.

- As for Alex/TO being buddies because of TO showing up at the end in a 'He's mine, feck off' sort of way, it could go either way. We really can only speculate until MH or TTA give us a definite answer as to what the heck is going on.

Until then, in my honest opinion, it's going to be interesting to see how they sew it all together and show how the present day Jay is linked in with this whole TTA/Alex/Operator story that's going down other than being a completely oblivious and sometimes idiotic narrator.


Blasky and hoody are the same people. And he never showed up in a TTA response.


My apologies, I should say TTA replies *or* MH vids. And yeah, you're right, I keep on thinking they're different entities for some reason.


Lol, I'm being a dick, cause I never get the chance to because I usually lurk. But I agree with you on what you said in the above post. Everyone needs to CALM THE FUCK DOWN. Nothing is proven. it's an 80% this is blasky/hoody. That's all we got.

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xxxblindxxx wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
xxxblindxxx wrote:
ugh i hate people who make random theories just to throw in any theory.

im not sure if people are aware but there are 3 known masks

Masky=tim
Skully= unidentified
Blasky= unidentified, possibly TTA

nothing has confirmed that TTA and the maskies are one and the same. one of the first videos was trying to show us who masky really was. which wouldnt make sense from TTA POV in the series to stay hidden.

it definitely looks like skully is sitting next to masky when he goes to hit alex and he definitely stumbles down to the grounds. next


Heh... Skully isn't even really known to be a mask at all, unless I've missed something big.




skully has been proven to be a mask.


Or just a drawing. I'm having a hard time seeing exactly where the mask and head are. It looks like a drawing surrounded in a bunch of static-y garbleness.

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DonMonte
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xxxblindxxx wrote:
proven


People on this site keep using that word...

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xxxblindxxx wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
Heh... Skully isn't even really known to be a mask at all, unless I've missed something big.




skully has been proven to be a mask.


Skully has been proven to be a half-second blip in one video. A lot has been assumed about that half-second blip, but until we see an actual individual wearing this plastered to their face and doing things in MH, we do not have a proven Skully.

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Nickjackal wrote:
After reading through all of the theories, reading about how people believe it was The Operator that helped Alex out, etc, I just have one question:


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
DO I HELP OR DO I KILL?


O.O OMG

That fits many theories!

Good post sir.
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slendywasphone wrote:
Nickjackal wrote:
After reading through all of the theories, reading about how people believe it was The Operator that helped Alex out, etc, I just have one question:


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
DO I HELP OR DO I KILL?


O.O OMG

That fits many theories!

Good post sir.


Thank you, good sir. I stress that it's still a theory though.

If the question was meant to be from The Operator's point of view, then what would that mean?

If it was from TTA's point of view, then what what would THAT mean? Is it a question directed at/about J? Or Alex? Or The Operator?

Or if we use the theory that some people believe that J has a split personality that is/is a part of TTA, then could it mean that he was there that night? An inner conflict on whether or not he should help or kill Alex? An inner conflict on whether or not he should help or kill the Super Masky-o Brothers? An inner conflict on whether or not he should help or kill The Operator? Nah, scratch that last one.

It fits into several theories, but raises so many questions...( I personally stopped subscribing to certain theories since there are several good ones, and I don't want to watch the videos for the sake of going "HA I WAS RIGHT". I wanna watch them for the sake of going "HOLY SHIT DID YOU SEE THAT GOD DAMN I WILL NOT SLEEP TONIGHT." )

And speaking of sleep, it's about time that old man narcolepsy bashed me over the head with his sleepy hammer. Goodnight folks. Wicked nightmares.


I'm going to come back to so many theories/arguments based on this tomorrow I can already smell it.
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Well, that was certainly a nice little Entry to watch early in the morning ^_^

So now it's obvious that Masky/Tim and hoody are working together. Unknown if they are working with or against the Operator.

It's most liley that they aren't working with the Operator, since they were obviously spooked by something at the end, and if it was just a passerby, you'd think said passerby would check if Alex was ok. So, it could have been the Operator. Of course, it could have also been some other character that hasn't been introduced yet.

People seem to think the Operator is now protecting Alex (at least from what I saw whilst skimming), but I highly doubt that this is the case. Chances are that the Operator and the Masky-Hoody duo both have their own plans for Alex, which oppose eachothers'.

This does not tell us what they want with Jay, if anything. They probably just think Jay's gonna defend Alex, and so, they want him out of the way.

If Hoody and Masky ARE opposed to the Operator, however, then that works against the Hoody is TTA theory. Remember Return? The Operator walked straight up to TTA's camera, persumably with TTA right there. It's unlikley in that situation that TTA would have survived if they were opposed to the Operator. Of course, they may have been working together at one point, but then had a change of heart.

But it does make some sort fo sense of previous events if Hoody and the Operator are opposed. For example, Hoody picked up Jay's camera and returned it to him. Peacefully. Obviously, Hoody does not wish physical harm upon Jay (at least not just yet).

TTA's entries around that time also came off as TTA trying to help Jay out. It was also around this time that the feel of TTA's videos started to change, supporting the idea that something happenened to TTA. Either a different person, or a change of heart. Which then supports the idea that TTA and the Operation were once allied, but are now enemies.

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I haven't read the whole thread yet (wait, am I not one who complains when..-Yes, but this isn't about theories), but the first time I tried to watch this video, it got to the shot of Hoody (?) and that shot sat there for a few seconds before I realized my computer had crashed.

It was like, "man, they are really stretching this distort- Oh, it's just frozen".

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Read through the whole thread. Damn you people need a factory of chill pills.

Aside from that brilliant and whimsical observation, did anyone else think it odd that the other masky was just sitting there watching Tim go in for the kill? I mean, if it were me, I'd be more about keeping an eye out for anyone else around. It seemed almost to be a studying pose, or one of complete enthrallment.

Their synchronized looking up and hauling ass was also interesting. Kind of made me think of a collective consciousness.

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Lurker here. Read through the thread, and just want to say that I'm hesitant to say that it's Blasky/Hoody. Not only does the mask seem to look different (see below for my impression), but I never got an antagonistic vibe from Blasky/Hoody. He returned Jay's camera and hasn't, as far as I know, been shown to be evil or violent. This one, however, is most definitely out to hurt Alex.


Anyway: What my brain made of Woodsy in the video.


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