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[SPEC] Wild Random Speculation Thread

yeahyeah wrote:
But alas, this isn't really the thread for that.. we need a good wild random speculation thread..


Not impossible...inevitable.

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Good, a wild spec thread, AWESOME!!! Aight, so what about that idea that Wongmo is actually a person showing people the real world.

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i posted this in another thread (ethan weblog), was probably the wrong thread tho, so i'll put it here.


loewin wrote:
[SPECULATION]

after reading this thread, i am thinking the people chasing them were monitor/agents. if we refer back to the first matrix movie, when they had neo in the interrogation room, they could change things, like taking away his mouth. if this is the case, they caused a whomp? and took dina. i am now speculationg that the ai man is a monitor/agent who doesn't know/remeber it. sorry if this was brought up before but i didn't see it anywhere.


he is probably being chased by monitors because he had already completed his task and is ready to be recycled?
is this anywhere else? i would like to read it if it is.

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i believe this is all spec
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EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: We are all giant CPUs and Hard Drives. We are calculating the exact nature of the matrix, and The Collector is changing only one persons calculation, hence the limited area of change, and the line of sight limitations (he can only get the ID of the person responsible for the area if he can see it).

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This is about to get into a big piece of computational theory/computer programming spec.

In order to make such a large system work in my mind, there has to be an ungodly amount of computing power. I picture the matrix not as one giant battery (First law of thermodynamics and all that) but as a huge supercomputer/fileserver. I don't think that this actually contradicts the movies all that much, because their idea of the matrix as a power source seems to just be from the info that they have gathered, not from an authoritive source. This computing array could be used to generate the matrix itself. Don't simply generate a huge world and send bits and pieces of perspective to individuals (IE: Thin Clients), but allow the individuals to generate their own reality and harmonize it with the rest of the inhabitants (IE: Thick Clients). In this manner, the people that are there are generating the world. I don't think it would take much more brain power to generate this world then would be used to perceive it. Then, extra capacity could be used to track the position of other objects in the matrix and store the huge arrays that would be needed to match people up with their virtual neighbors. By using a p2p style system, you could simply have brains start contacting each other directly rather then go through a server to deal with interacting people. This system would still leave the computers with a large percent of unused brain capacity, plus the memory functions to serve as file stores. (Worlds largest RAID array, woo!) This could work in the real world if you think about it (with silicon and magnets rather then organic chemistry ). It is essentially a blending of Freenet (for file storage), United Devices (for computation), and Ultima Online (for "reality).

This theory could also explain a lot of the nature of the collectors abilities. He is only affecting a single persons computational ability. That person becomes convinced that the wind stopped blowing or the fire stopped putting off heat. But, as each person only tracks a small area, the affect is area limited. In addition, the individual seeing these odd events all of a sudden kicks his/her brain into overdrive. They are analyzing the situation and trying to come up with a reason for it. This means that the simulation has too get more precise to properly generate it, leaving less room for "mundane" tasks for the overlords to use in the brain.

And that is exactly why the CPUs within the area of the matrix seem to loose power when one happens. The available human computing power goes down, so they throttle the PCs.

With this system, you would not necessarily need dedicated logs and monitoring capability. It depends on how the system decides to do things like that. They would most likely be unnecessary overhead and wasted computing power. I don't have a good reason for the temporary nature of the collectors changes yet. However I think it could be related to redundant computing and verification. This indicates that they have scans running for anomalies rather then constant monitoring, and that would explain the reason it stops all of a sudden.

They could easily be treating these as incidents of corrupted computing, rather then a rouge AI storming the matrix. We have no way of knowing how common those are, and may just be written off due to huge log sizes.

Now that's some crazy spec Smile

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Surfloser:
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i believe this is all spec

Oh, I could have sworn this was all a proven fact.

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woo.. My prayers have been answered.

Now where did I put my crazy notes..

A lot of stuff I've tried to squeeze into threads that aren't exactly dedicated to the subject, so if you read everything then you've probably heard most of it..

Please remember this is just off the wall ideas..

We all know scratch has a lot of beef with caesar.. Yet he still decides to help out caesar.

Two possible motivations:

scratch got into some sort of trouble, and instead of getting punished, he is asked to entrap poor caesar, so he meets with dina and ethan, for the sole purpose of trying to get one or both of them captured so that caesar is forced to come out into the open to try and find them.. leading to his capture, blah blah blah..

scratch is trying to show off (obviously), so he goes to meet up with dina and ethan so he can rub it in caesars face, but he is being tailed, and the monitors or whatever are really after him, but he manages to escape, and dina is caught instead.


Next we have Dina and Ethan, we are confident that they are at least the Averys. But why were they relocated..

...James got too involved in something, possibly learned something he wasn't supposed to, so the monitors relocated him rather then killing him because he has some sort of knowledge or greater purpose so he can't be completely removed..

or
...Dina became involved with Wongmo because James was messing around on the side with Beth, Wongmo for some reason (money?) decided that in her current situation she couldn't be milked properly, so he brainwashed both of them and reintroduced himself, so that he could 'help her'. Since James was a CEO that means he has a weak mind, so he doesn't recall anything, but Dina remembers things because she is a woman, and everyone knows men don't understand women enough to change there mind..

Hmm.. need sleep. I have more.. trust me..
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yeahyeah wrote:
Next we have Dina and Ethan, we are confident that they are at least the Averys. But why were they relocated..


I'm not very confident of that at all. I agree with the Ethan Nekoda = Ryan Emerson and Dina Nekoda = Sylvie Emerson. I don't see how Ryan could co-exist as James Avery and Sylvie as James' ex-wife.
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i liked the idea that avery was still missing and was married to sylvia but got divorced
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I thought the ID of Jesse had the last name of Avery, and unless scratch is hooking two people other then dina and ethan up with Jesse, then I felt like they were related.. My appologies if thats not a shared viewpoint. I havn't slept in 20 hours so I could very well be mixing facts up.. :)
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[quote="ArchGod"]
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i believe this is all spec

Oh, I could have sworn this was all a proven fact.

Ha! Laughing[/quote="ArchGod"]

And, of course, the moon landing was faked... oops! wrong wild speculation thread! Twisted Evil

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scratch is trying to show off (obviously), so he goes to meet up with dina and ethan so he can rub it in caesars face, but he is being tailed, and the monitors or whatever are really after him, but he manages to escape, and dina is caught instead.


This is exactly what I'm thinking; Scratch is trying to become top dog in the hacker gang, believing that Caesar has somehow gone 'soft' by searching for his parents (and manipulating paintover to do so); hence my continuing support for the Brutus theory (even if I was wrong about Scratch being trouble - sorry about that Yanka!)

EDIT: Spelling correction!
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i think that scratch was trying to gain leverage over ceaser by maybe using his mother against him in some fashion either hostage, ransom
or any number of crazy reasons.
but the most important fact is we do not know what has truely happened to dina and we do not know enough about scratch to throw away the brutus idea
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[WILD RANDOM SPEC]

We are the A.R.G.
They are in real life.
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Dude that totally goes with this essay I wrote for class a little while ago. Here, I'll attach the essay to this post. The essay takes on a wierd perspective and is very original for a school essay, but I think it is worth while. I got a 92% on it up here at the US Air Force Academy (for credibility).
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ArchGod wrote:
Dude that totally goes with this essay I wrote for class a little while ago. Here, I'll attach the essay to this post. The essay takes on a wierd perspective and is very original for a school essay, but I think it is worth while. I got a 92% on it up here at the US Air Force Academy (for credibility).


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