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[LOCKED] The Four Totheark members (Speculation)
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TheSnack
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The Four Totheark members (Speculation)
Further discussion of MistrPibb's idea

So, I figured it was time I did something potentially useful on these forums. I went through the TTA videos with MistrPibb's idea in mind (that there are four TTA members, and they all "sign" their videos with /x0+). The results were rather interesting, here:

1 - Regards (7-22-09)- /
-stacked letters (C-LO-SE-LY)
-clear thin text

2 - Operator (7-31-09)- /
-clear thin text
-complete words ("Lakes in stillness will" etc)

3 - Deluge (8-11-09)- /
-clear thin text
-complete words ("watching you")

4 - Impurity (9-1-09)- 0
-clear stylish text ("begin", "operator")

5 - Exit (9-15-09)- (no symbol was given)
-complete words ("remember me")
-clear stylish text

6 - Program (9-26-09)- 0
-stacked words/letters ("ble-ed-mo-re")

7 - Advocate (10-12-09)- 0
-binary
-upside down words
-complete words ("tick tock")
-flipped text ("tick tock")
-clear block text

8 - Addition (10-21-09)- /
-blurry text
-complete words ("eyes")

9 - Signal (11-4-09)- (no symbol was given)
-complete words ("come back" "find me" "again")
-blurry text

10 - Messages (11-21-09)- (no symbol was given)
-complete sentences ("tell us" "you have been keeping secrets." "Smile for the camera")
-clear block text

11 - Return (12-2-09)- (no symbol was given)
-stacked letters ("fou-nd-you")
-complete words ("forever")
-blurry text
-Operator sighting
-numbers ("91")

12 - Version (12-16-09)- 0 and x
-complete words ("waiting for you")
-jumbled order
-clear block text

13 - Attention (1-10-10)- (Operator symbol shown at the end similar to 'x')
-complete sentences ("Return to us" "wake up")
-jumbled letters ("aiatiwnguoryrarialv")
-clear block text

14 - Admission (1-14-10)- +
-Operator sighting
-complete sentences ("There are doors unopened")

15 - Warning (2-3-10)- (no clear symbol was given)
-multiple Operator signs, originating in 0s, including a big x over them all
-complete words/sentences ("The following are raw footage excerpts from Alex Kralie", "eyes (x)pen", "stay home" "smile for the camera" "regards" "smile for death")
-handwritten text

Fragments- (no symbol was given)
-complete sentences ("hello again", "you are broken", "you cannot be fixed")
-blurry text

17 - Broadcast (2-26-11)- (no symbol was given)
-complete words/sentences ("are you drowning")

18 - Sidetone (3-15-11)- 0
-nothing clear

19 - Forecast (4-21-11)- (no symbol was given)
-lists of numbers
-complete sentences ("here is something I have wanted to show you")
-base64 description
-pixel numbers
-fade-in text

20 - Intermission (5-16-11)- (Operator symbol shown at the end similar to 'x')
-base64 description
-complete sentences ("did you see me" "I saw you")
-lists of numbers
-pixel text

21 - Indicator (6-2-11)- 0
-binary
-complete words/sentences ("blind", "messages everywhere" "signs everywhere" "you will never be free")
-pixel text

22 - Memories (6-20-11)- (no clear symbol was given)
-Operator symbol sighting
-complete sentences ("years wasted", "you've done nothing", "so much more than time has been taken")
-base64 description
-pixel text

23 - Inquiry (7-7-11)- 0
-Operator symbol sighting
-blurry-to-clear text ("Look at you", "you are who you are")
-complete sentences ("you are you", "but who are you" "who are you" "who are you")

I also wrote down other trends that I noticed in the videos. What do you think? If anyone thinks I'm wrong, please say so! If people notice more trends with the videos, I'd be happy to add them on Smile

EDIT: Added the links provided by Rogue Thoughts, edited by Foood

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Nice theory, but I'm sorry, you're wrong. It's clearly the A-Team.
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i still think one of them is seth. the entry where alex flips on tim and sarah during filming, seth makes a brief appearance from behind the camera and it seems like they wouldn't pull him out from behind the camera unless there was a reason for it. the TTA reply for that entry was "look closely"

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This is definitely worth considering, especially if this trend continues. Odd that the + sign only appears once, though.

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FossilizedSauce wrote:
Odd that the + sign only appears once, though.


Is it possible that there are three members? X and + could be the same signature.

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PortfolioKey wrote:
Is it possible that there are three members? X and + could be the same signature.


This is what I was thinking. That they're basically the same signature, just flipped over for one video.

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I like this theory =O

I agree with x and + being the same signature. If there were more +s, then I'd say they're different, but since it appears only once, I'm gonna say they're the same.

A quick thought. For Return, the 91 could be 9+1=10, giving us our 0, or it could even be saying that + and 0 worked on the video together.
Same could be said about Warning--worked on by 0 and x.

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Rogue Thoughts wrote:
I like this theory =O

I agree with x and + being the same signature. If there were more +s, then I'd say they're different, but since it appears only once, I'm gonna say they're the same.

A quick thought. For Return, the 91 could be 9+1=10, giving us our 0, or it could even be saying that + and 0 worked on the video together.
Same could be said about Warning--worked on by 0 and x.


Maybe 0 and X are Alex and Amy, together. Hence Entry 26 - Help (X) - both Alex and Amy need help.

How was the "He lies" one signed?

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Chest Cam Avenger wrote:
How was the "He lies" one signed?


Indicator was signed with a 0, according to the OP. Interestingly, both Indicator and Sidetone, another TTA video which states that someone (Alex) 'lies', focus on the 0 "Oper" portion of a traditional push-button telephone.

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I almost think that this might need to be worked on with the help of the wiki, and I would like to see the videos sorted by "signature," so that we could look at similarities. For example, at a cursory glance, it appears that the binary clock puzzle last year was made by the same person who made most of this year's vids, and we might be able to find a solution.

Also, and I acknowledge that this is a longshot, but I have a feeling in my bones... I feel that 0 is either Brian or Alex. Either he hints with the picture in the binary clock puzzle and is Brian, or the stigma that some people are seeing on Alex's box in #44 (the longshot I acknowledged) indicates that Alex is the maker of the clock vids, and therefore ALSO the maker of this season's most cryptic ones, possibly even fessing up to his own brokenness and lies?

Perhaps after what we've seen, Alex broke out of the Operator's influence, and now hopes to lead Jay away from following in what Jay might see as a wise Alex's footsteps? It's a theory.
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Mr_Magpie wrote:
Chest Cam Avenger wrote:
How was the "He lies" one signed?


Indicator was signed with a 0, according to the OP. Interestingly, both Indicator and Sidetone, another TTA video which states that someone (Alex) 'lies', focus on the 0 "Oper" portion of a traditional push-button telephone.


That works out as Amy being 0. This posting would come after she finds out that Alex(Who I like as X , only partially because of the X in his name) has been lying to her about having a camera - hence, He lies.

Also, and I'm just sayin'... 0 posted the "Program" video, which has the highly-controversial "YAMA" in it. It doesn't specifically say "AMY", but I could see a connection.

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Randoman96 wrote:
Nice theory, but I'm sorry, you're wrong. It's clearly the A-Team.


You're right, Randoman. I'm sorry. I tried.


FossilizedSauce wrote:
This is definitely worth considering, especially if this trend continues. Odd that the + sign only appears once, though.


Definitely odd. This was more MistrPibb's idea than mine, so I tried to stick to his and not interject my own opinion too much (that's sorta what I was gonna do down here). I'd probably say that Admission doesn't have a clear symbol author, and we can't jump to conclusions about who made that video.

The people trying to pin down who each symbol stands for have interesting theories...Makes me wonder who / is. Possibly...Slender Man?! *dramatic music*

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The last 5 or so videos show a lot of the same techniques and styles. Very similar videos (relatively speaking); black and white for many of them, complete sentences, or at least jumbled phrases.

Given that Hoody was introduced after Intermission (and assuming Hoody was also the one who was outside of Jay's care in Forecast), I guess he's the one making the last bunch of TTA vids?

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FossilizedSauce wrote:
The last 5 or so videos show a lot of the same techniques and styles. Very similar videos (relatively speaking); black and white for many of them, complete sentences, or at least jumbled phrases.

Given that Hoody was introduced after Intermission (and assuming Hoody was also the one who was outside of Jay's care in Forecast), I guess he's the one making the last bunch of TTA vids?


Inquiry actually gives me more of the vibe that Signal and Attention do - the former of which was probably uploaded by Tim. I definitely think that the trio of vids from Intermission to Memories were uploaded by Hoody.

Not gonna lie, I don't really buy Amy being a part of TTA. Unless maybe TTA is comprised of Slendervictims, in which case she could only have uploaded post-S1.

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Rogue Thoughts
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Sorted them.

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Regards
Operator
Deluge
Addition

0
Impurity
Program
Advocate
Sidetone
Indicator
Inquiry

Doubled
Version- 0 and x

x
Admission (Actually a +)
Intermission- (Operator symbol shown at the end similar to 'x')

Unknown/Unclear
Exit
Signal
Messages
Return
Attention- (Operator symbol shown at the end similar to 'x')
Warning
Fragments
Broadcast
Forecast
Memories

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