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[TRAILHEAD] The Darkest Puzzle
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emato
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Lystella wrote:
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The Terms of Use page has grey letters that spell "mime-net"



Yes, here maybe:
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http://www.watsoninstitute.org/infopeace/911/index.cfm?id=5


PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:19 pm
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Gimme20dollaz
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Anyone check the source code of the website?
(Yeah, I know that I thought this was in poor taste; I still do, somewhat, but I'll forgive the PMs as long as they don't glorify the terrorists' point of view)

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Dang, this starts just as I'm busy 24/7. I'll jump back in as soon as I can.

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JumboTron
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Gimme20dollaz wrote:
Anyone check the source code of the website


Hmmm, nothing that stands out to me...

Going back to Kylie's "Come Into My World", Radiohead's "Like Spinning Plates" also revolves (forgive the pun) around the idea of repetition. And in "Godless" by the Dandy Warhols you've got the hula-hoop guy...

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For MIME-NET I found this:
http://essays.ssrc.org/sept11/essays/der_derian.htm

Particular reference I think should be made to "steganography" - so possibly we are looking for an image and password from TheDarkClouded.

Image decoder can be found here:
http://mozaiq.org/decrypt/


and

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The image of the "plane puzzle" jigsaw has the word "krasnovian" on the right wing. Krasnovian is the name of a computer simulated soviet brigade that the US army fights against at Fort Irwin.

Link can be found here:
http://www.watsoninstitute.org/infopeace/vy2k/deterrence.cfm


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revcasy
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Is it a coincidence that both of those links were written by the same person?

At first I thought I had misunderstood you....

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Edit: More info on Mime-net at James Der Derian's profile page at The Watson Institute, including another video about the concept. http://www.watsoninstitute.org/contacts_detail.cfm?id=24

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Grimm7756
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Songs

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Kylie - the video speaks for itself, considering it came from TheDarkClouded.

Gorillaz - It's interesting to note that this song was used in Cloverfield, a movie that used an ARG. Also goes with the first video because of the opening lyrics, "The world's spinning to fast" With the text over the first video saying that the world was progessing so fast that we decided to repeat the last decade.

Revelator - Something will be revealed in time?

Play - Jennifer Lopez on a plane.

Radiohead - ......I....I have no idea. There's a hidden message, I'm sure, but I'm baffled.

Godless - My best bet is that this was just posted to refer to how people said God left us on that day, how He wasn't there. Might also refer to the cruelty of people.


Of course, this is pure speculation. I'm not sure how helpful any of this is, I just wanted to show how the videos could be related to each other and/or the ARG at large.

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JenniPowell
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The YouTube channel that hosts the David Letterman video on the front page of the website is filled with 9/11 related videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/fivealex091101

May be a good resource or come into play as we go along.

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keysofsoloman
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revcasy wrote:
Is it a coincidence that both of those links were written by the same person?

At first I thought I had misunderstood you....

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Edit: More info on Mime-net at James Der Derian's profile page at The Watson Institute, including another video about the concept. http://www.watsoninstitute.org/contacts_detail.cfm?id=24


Yeah definitely read this, and watch the video.
Also check out: http://serialconsign.com/2010/01/james-der-derian-virtuous-war

"We are in the world of virtual reality." - Jack Valenti ....no kidding.

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keysofsoloman
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All this talk of mime-net and the cumulative snow balling of its effects are beginning to make sense with some the first clues we received. The media on the QR code didn't just act as a rabbit hole, it primed us for the reception of this idea. It's not coincidence that there was 9/11 related media before the attacks of September 11, it's simply priming for the only possible outcome (war) when the military-industrial media-entertainment network begins to snow-ball. It engineers its own disasters. Something terrible will happen sooner or later, because this is a necessary part of that system. If it had not been the WTC, but some other target, it is doubtless that we could find a few artist's pieces (be it song, movie or otherwise) that would have 'predicted' these events. We are expecting these events, and 9/11 this time only seemed to confirm the danger of this system becoming a closed cycle.

http://essays.ssrc.org/sept11/essays/der_derian.htm
Thank you very much to the individual who posted this. (There's a lot of porn in the source?)

Very briefly in the above article the author mentions breaking out of these cycles. That would sound a lot like DarkCloud. This game is dangerously meta.

"This game is not a game for everyone."

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morbus
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Received an in-game email on the player mail account that I received (see here for more info):

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The Blogger user es-pyre has invited you to read the private blog: THE DARKEST PUZZLE.


I accepted the invite using my own Google Address. There's a lot of stuff in here, and I'll start working on screenshots.
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morbus
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Alright, here they are. I imageshack'd em cos embedding 'em here would destroy the page. I haven't read through any of 'em yet. Full page screenshots were taken with Firefox 6 and Screenshot Pimp. EDIT 1: Erm. Ok. ImageShack might have changed sizes on me. 'old on. EDIT 2: Heh, couldn't find any free service that didn't resize the damn things so I've just uploaded them to my own little wiki. I've thrown 'em all into the category below. Click the image (from the category page), then click the image again (from the image page), then click the image *again* (from the browser display) to get the full res versions.

http://www.disobey.com/wiki/Category:The_Darkest_Puzzle
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Rinimac
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Hmm, looks interesting. You all have found out heaps of stuff already.

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Violet Neon
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Yep - count me in. Intrigued.

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JenniPowell
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morbus wrote:
Received an in-game email on the player mail account that I received (see here for more info):

Quote:
The Blogger user es-pyre has invited you to read the private blog: THE DARKEST PUZZLE.


I accepted the invite using my own Google Address. There's a lot of stuff in here, and I'll start working on screenshots.


So do you only have read access or do you have administrative access? AKA: can you invite other users? There were many comments that es-pyre seemed to get things started and then kind of disappeared, perhaps we can remedy that and breath new life into the site and utilize it for ourselves?

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And reading everything over, these seemed to be the main questions being brought to the table before the blog came to a halt:
--Why were they so quick to attribute it to Al-Qaeda?
--Did Flight 93 really go down in Pennsylvania?
--Did the Pentagon attack actually happen?
--Were there explosives in the WTC that aided the demolition and was this possible due to security lapses the weeks before the attack?
--Why was the wreckage sent to China for destruction when it should have been considered evidence?

There was also mention of a security company called Statesec that apparently was in charge of security at WTC before the attacks but I haven't dug very deep into that yet.


Maybe that can get us started...

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enaxor
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I feel the direction this is heading, is one which involves a US government conspiracy, that some outside the US believe to be true. My daughter and SIL have been subjected to this theory while living in several different European countries. They've talked to many Europeans that are adamant the attack of 911, was planned and carried out by then President, G. W. Bush. Although, I don't believe for a second that our government, had anything to do with the attack on the WTC and Pentagon, I guess it makes for a good ARG story. It'll be interesting to see where this leads.
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