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[TRAILHEAD] The Darkest Puzzle
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codifier
Boot

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Ooo creepy. Lots of spooky stills with the Ken Burns effect but there's also some sort of moving image overlaid. Can't quite make it out.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:50 pm
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keysofsoloman
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Joined: 27 Jul 2011
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Location: Montreal

FLICKR

http://www.flickr.com/people/laurentanaka/

I found this woman's photostream on Flickr.

Wow. Lot's of new pictures of game materials.
One of the photos is geo-tagged for Sentinel Heights road, New York.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:09 pm
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keysofsoloman
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Flickr

You ladies and gentlemen were too slow, Lauren removed most of the photos from her flickr. I will upload them elsewhere tomorrow afternoon EST.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:48 am
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Ogawa
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Hrmmhmhuhmmm

Well this is very interesting, and dare I say at the heart of every ARGy endeavor. Before we even knew what ARGs were, did we not examine every possible clue just to find out what that bizarre website was for?

OK, I wasn't on the scene to know what that would have looked like, but still...

I'm definitely going to be keeping an eye on this one. The 9/11 attacks/conspiracy theories have always left a hole in my waking thoughts. (I promise it's not as loopy as it sounds.) I had no idea the Cloudmakers had discussed this. (It's like I'm talking about the bloody Protheans or something!)

Well anyway...can't wait until the timer winds down. As dangerous as it may be, I kind of hope it's really TINAG. But kinda not really too. Confused

Also, before I read keysofsoloman's post about getting a response re: the floppy disc, I left a comment on the article. Now that I think about it, I probably sounded really direct and rude. Just like any true American! Cool

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:18 am
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Niccolò S. Riva
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My stream of consciousness while watching the video:

A shot taken after the impact of one of the Boeings of 9/11.

A concorde, impossible to see whether BA or Air France.

A soldier. Most likely a US Marine, holding what looks to me like an M4(A1).

A jet crashing into the ground near or onto civilians, perhaps some event I should remember, adding to the general 'aviation disasters' theme.

Some sort of aircraft flying over the Taj Mahal.

A train-crash, likely in an Arabic country, judging by the visible text.

The statue of liberty, the one meant to be attacked in the Jackie Chan movie.

Some industry polluting.

Some building - look a bit like Istanbul, but I doubt it.

The same picture we've seen on the website, slowly revealing the 'Darkest Puzzle' logo.
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Concordes allegedly went out of business as a direct result of 9/11. The crash in Paris occured over a year before that, and the Concorde was returned to service in November 2001.

Not sure how these all relate, except under the 'disaster' heading. Seems to me, the initial four clues and this video are more teasers of what is to come, rather than being actual clues worth following.[/code]

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:20 am
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Threadbare
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Niccolò S. Riva wrote:
A train-crash, likely in an Arabic country, judging by the visible text.


Said "train crash" picture is from the suicide attack on trains at Atocha, Madrid, Spain on March 11 2004 (exactly two years and a half after 9/11). This attacks are directly related to the participation of Spain in the war against terror.

The symbol you identify as Arabic is most likely this:



And that is the logo of "Cercanías Renfe", the main train company in Spain.

What I found, or, more correctly, didn't find in the video are ANY references to the attacks in London, maybe this has any significance.

Also even though I thought of the Taj Mahal at first too, I'm pretty sure that's just a big mosque (is that the word? I used a translator on that one). You know, the place where Muslim people get together and pray and that stuff.

Until further study of the video, that's all I have.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:50 am
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epi_x
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Hello, I'm epi_x, a writer of arg.igda.jp.
Sorry, I missed some comments of my Japanese article about The Darkest Puzzle.
I only received some pics, not any physical clues.

I'm not good at English, but please feel free to contact me (@epi_x)
if you have any questions.

Some clues seem to be written in Japanese.
So I'm so happy if I can help you Very Happy


FYI, the pics in http://www.flickr.com/photos/laurentanaka/ are
now Japanese newpapers about 9.11.
Maybe they are real ones of Asahi-Shimbun, not fake.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:49 am
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Niccolò S. Riva
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Threadbare wrote:
Also even though I thought of the Taj Mahal at first too, I'm pretty sure that's just a big mosque (is that the word? I used a translator on that one). You know, the place where Muslim people get together and pray and that stuff.


Yes, on closer examination against some actual pictures of the Taj Mahal, it seems to be lacking some of the more striking features. If it's just a mosque, perhaps there was a famous airplane-based attack on a mosque? What is the flying object in the top right of that picture?

Also good catch on the Spanish train operator, I thought the symbol was too curve to be a 'J', but the Spanish operator indeed makes more sense!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:05 pm
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Boot

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I think the flying thing it's just debris from the Saddam statue falling on the front of the picture. Picture that I'm almost 100% sure is this one:



I can't get anything else from the video, except the feeling that the smoke-ish thing floating over the actual pictures may have some significance (there's a point in the video where you can see something like a tree maybe, over the statue of liberty) but I don't know how to extract it, providing it's possible which I'm quite sure it's not.

But thanks for your analysis, I would have overlooked the whole video if it weren't for that.

Last edit, I swear. There you go:


I saw the white plane and it didn't look like a fighter jet, so I did a little research (I don't know jack about planes) and the crashing plane turned out to be a Mig-35 or something similar. I google'd that and found the picture, it's from an (apparently?) unrelated russian crash during an expo or something like that.

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Marlower
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http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/cloudmakers/message/44287

The original cloudmaker 'darkest puzzle' thread(I think).
Found it interesting that it's still up.
Apologies if that has already been posted.

I'm really really intrigued by this. But I don't know how much help I'll be. I'm kinda new.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:00 pm
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keysofsoloman
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Flickr
RePost of Lauren T. photostream

I've uploaded the photos which were removed as promised. I think its important that everone takes a good look at them. I sort of have the feeling that there may be much more out there. Also, I am not sure but I sort of suspect 2 individuals to be orchestrating this game. Could someone PM me with the proper course of action.


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66193925@N07/


PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:50 pm
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Boot

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I forgot to ask, but is anyone here the owner of http://twitter.com/WhoIsDarkCloud? Nevermind, it's the above poster, I presume.

And, also: http://darkcloud.org/, 90% sure that it's not relevant at all but I looked the whois and it was created in 2001. That and the name are all the connections, it seems, but you never know...

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:11 pm
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keysofsoloman
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darkcloud.org

The Dark cloud of Government Looms Creepily Overhead
fanboyadblockSPLATgooglegroups.com

the site was last update aug 7 2011

I don't know if this is relevant or not, but nice catch.
Also, someone mentioned the old cloudmakers forums. I think its worth investigating. Not unreasonable to thing something will be puled from them for the game; slogans, or names, etc.

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Timetobuzzthetower
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been a while!

Been a while since I've been here, but this definitely is intriguing!

The connection to Dream Theater definitely caught my eye as well, those are my guys! I'll be more than happy to be your resident DT expert, as I even remember going to Best Buy to buy Live Scenes on September 11...

I don't think the record has much to do with the rest of this game, but basically it was recalled because of the image of the burning heart (which they've used on other records) with NY in the background appearing to be in flames.

If it does matter, Live Scenes is a recording of them playing their Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a Memory album in it's entirety. The album is a concept album dealing with a man having flashbacks to a past life involving a woman caught between two men (brothers), and one of them kills her and the other one and frames it as a murder suicide. The record deals a lot with the flashbacks and feelings of learning about a past life, but also deals with his search for answers down many different avenues to figure out what's really going on.... (sound familiar?)

Even if it doesn't matter, the record is still totally sick and I'd recommend everyone to give it a listen. Glad to be back and jumping into this!

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darkestpuzzle blog

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