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Mariolee
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StarlitVixen wrote:
Mariolee wrote:


Ah, yes, I forgot. Also, could you reply to my other post about what Slendy wants?


Which post? Quote it here and I can reply. Smile

Sleight wrote:
I disagree with the idea of switching the chronology.

Alex says, "You lead it here" because he can no longer sense it. He thought he escaped because he is now insensitive to its presence, thus no more cameras.

Someone pointed out that Alex pretty clearly knew Jay was there the whole time. He walks in and INSTANTLY calls Jay, then grabs the flashlight, and isn't the least bit surprised to see him. I think Alex knew it was only time before Jay followed him and saw the flashlight as he walked down the hall, giving him time to call Jay as he picked it up.

I believe the key is to Brian's house from season 1. All the locked doors must be opened. Think of Admission.

You can see blue jeans if you look at the legs walk past the camera. Slendy is clearly outside in one scene, Jay says he is gone, and then poof, inside and Alex is oblivious.

If you go back to Brian's closet in 16, you can see an skeletal arm/hand in the Bone closet. Not sure if people noticed this before but I caught it my first time thru and now think there is reason for it.


I'm not too sure. I'm starting to believe that the order is out. But then again, Alex came back after #44 apparently, then was confronted by Maskies in #45. I'm not too sure what any of this means. Why would the Operator take Alex and send him back? For what purpose?

Wasn't the door unlocked when he came back to the house and he teleported to that underground place where Seth was dragged off?


The one at the top of the last page.
Also, wouldn't Jay have pointed it out if the timeline was out of order. Or has he, because I'm quite forgetful. :p

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MorbidPuppies wrote:
StarlitVixen wrote:
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Yeah, the door was unlocked (EDIT: actually it was wide open), and for the unknown order of the recent posts, I just want to know when Jay found out were Alex lived, since the Entry's or Jays twitter haven't referenced another meeting since 44.


Jay said that he found tapes of him tailing Alex. He probably saw him one day and decided to follow him back to his house.


Yeah, I was just hoping for something more elaborate than that... (lol)


Sadly, you won't get anything more elaborate. xD Heh.
Alex didn't expect Jay, but other people have been saying he wasn't surprised. I'm thinking it as more as he's just used to strange people breaking in and other odd things that he knew it was bound to happen. And Jay has been known to go places where he shouldn't have...

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StarlitVixen wrote:
Sleight wrote:
I disagree with the idea of switching the chronology.

Alex says, "You lead it here" because he can no longer sense it. He thought he escaped because he is now insensitive to its presence, thus no more cameras.

Someone pointed out that Alex pretty clearly knew Jay was there the whole time. He walks in and INSTANTLY calls Jay, then grabs the flashlight, and isn't the least bit surprised to see him. I think Alex knew it was only time before Jay followed him and saw the flashlight as he walked down the hall, giving him time to call Jay as he picked it up.


I'm not too sure. I'm starting to believe that the order is out. But then again, Alex came back after #44 apparently, then was confronted by Maskies in #45. I'm not too sure what any of this means. Why would the Operator take Alex and send him back? For what purpose?


I have to think that the chronology is 43 -> 44 -> 46 -> X -> 45
(where X accounts for ~3 months of time).

The only thing that I think is concrete evidence is that when Jay is looking at the drawings in #46, you can see one of the "summoning" Operator symbols that Alex was seen drawing in #44.

I think Alex was bluffing Jay when he said "you lead it here", he still wants Jay to think they are on the same side, or something.

As for why the Op took Alex and then brought him back - I have only wild guesses.


EDIT: As an aside - for those of you looking for the other BONE sightings, the one in entry #16 is at time 3:06 to 3:09. I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it. Are there any other sightings?

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Mariolee wrote:
finnK wrote:
nbdyxvi wrote:
Mariolee wrote:
HOLY MOLY. Clever editing there when
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Troy combined two tapes together seamlessly while they were talkign in the dark, and overlaying the voices so it all seemed like one big tape.


That help or kill thing really lends credence to Alex being TTA, what with the whole "Do I help or do I kill?" thing in the TTA vid a couple of vids ago. And I missed the part where Alex says "You lead him here."

Also, did anyone catch Alex's evil face when the Operator's behind him? Someone needs to screen cap that.

If anyone doesn't think Alex is being Slendy possessed now, they're crazy.


That first part you mentioned made me think. Alex's drawing said Help ME, Kill ME, so maybe whoever TTA is is trying to decide Alex's fate...? Just a thought.


I took it as, well, a cry for help. He's not in control of himself anymore, he doesn't want anyone else to get hurt. I mean, we don't even know what's become of Amy, Jess, Brian, or Sarah. Something terrible could have happened to any or all of them. (I personally believe Brian is TTA, though). Alex is asking Jay to kill him, set him free from his imprisonment in Slendy-service, so that no one else is hurt because of him.


Hmm, I didn't see the "me's" in there, so it changes up my theory a bit. I must agree with the poster above me, then. I also feel it's a (possibly subconscious?) form of a cry for help. But it was definitely meant to alude to TTA's "Do I help or do I kill?"


Now that I've thought about it a bit (this is totally not the thread for this, really, but hey) "Do I help or do I kill?" can be taken a number of different ways. It can either be TTA questioning his own motives, TTA questioning what Jay thinks his motives are, or, in light of this most recent update, maybe inquiring of himself/themselves (?) what the best course of action is. As in, "Should we help Alex, or should we kill him?" or maybe "By killing him, are we actually helping to free him from The Operator?" Maybe that message was actually directed at Alex?

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Mariolee wrote:

The one at the top of this page.
Also, wouldn't Jay have pointed it out if the timeline was out of order. Or has he, because I'm quite forgetful. :p

Nope but he did mention some of his tapes are out of order. True, he didn't say this was from an unmarked tape but he didn't say it WAS from a marked tape.

Mariolee wrote:

I've always believed that the operator has been just trying to take over Alex this entire time, (like the old woman and the main guy in Insidious) but Jay and the Maskies have just been getting in the way, which is the only reason TO even acknowledges them.

Like I said in my other post:
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I believe it's pretty obvious TO has been simply wanting Alex. And now he's almost completely taken over him. It's like In Insidious (SPOILERS) when the old woman gets closer and closer to the main guy in photos, and at the end when he finally confronts the demon lady, she takes over his body. Actually, it's surprisingly shocking to me now that I realize how closely the relatinoship between TO and Alex is between the demon lady and the main guy/



I definitely agree. I never thought the Operator was really after Jay and that his focus is on Alex. Jay just seems to wind up in the middle of it with two or three different sides bullying him.

The Maskies definitely need Jay... or they want to help him... and they are definitely against Alex.

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StarlitVixen wrote:
Mariolee wrote:

The one at the top of this page.
Also, wouldn't Jay have pointed it out if the timeline was out of order. Or has he, because I'm quite forgetful. :p

Nope but he did mention some of his tapes are out of order. True, he didn't say this was from an unmarked tape but he didn't say it WAS from a marked tape.

Mariolee wrote:

I've always believed that the operator has been just trying to take over Alex this entire time, (like the old woman and the main guy in Insidious) but Jay and the Maskies have just been getting in the way, which is the only reason TO even acknowledges them.

Like I said in my other post:
Quote:
I believe it's pretty obvious TO has been simply wanting Alex. And now he's almost completely taken over him. It's like In Insidious (SPOILERS) when the old woman gets closer and closer to the main guy in photos, and at the end when he finally confronts the demon lady, she takes over his body. Actually, it's surprisingly shocking to me now that I realize how closely the relatinoship between TO and Alex is between the demon lady and the main guy/



I definitely agree. I never thought the Operator was really after Jay and that his focus is on Alex. Jay just seems to wind up in the middle of it with two or three different sides bullying him.

The Maskies definitely need Jay... or they want to help him... and they are definitely against Alex.


Its like one big gang war that Jay has stumbled upon.

Masked 4 Life Laughing

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I wonder how aware they are of how stupid and naive they seem to write Jay most of the time. Granted, he has his surges of normalcy, but most of the time he just acts completely oblivious to the most obvious things.

It makes me glad that, Slenderspell or not, Alex seems competent and badass in comparison. But still, Jay seems to be, on the whole, losing IQ points as the entries continue.

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Book

I noticed the book looked old, but then forgot about it for a bit, because of...yeah...whoo...scary...

Thanks to whoever it was, many pages back, for the screencaps. I do think that the cover looks like it has figures of people on it.

I first noticed the cover and did not think figures of people. I thought it looked like what I have seen on old and valuable books, which is a very pretty cross section of wood pattern. (not like rings, but if it was cut at an angle - you'd get wavy lines)

But it does look old - I'm going with that being Alex doing some research. Maybe the book is where Alex got his creepy stories about the woods and the trees growing and the criminals left there. I think this is entirely plausible.

Correlation - some old book covers were made of wood. Could the wood from Rosswood (local stories, local author, local materials)? That contains information on 1. the area 2. the woods and 3. creepy stories that may relate to the Operator? And the wood cross section happens to show what looks like a figure in the grain? ....I think it's reaching, but it was an interesting thought.

(Side note, while looking for a screencap of wavy wood grain looking book covers, I ran into a book called The Tall Man. Unfortunately it does not look anything like Alex's book. I lol'd.)
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Re: Book

jenni42ld wrote:
I noticed the book looked old, but then forgot about it for a bit, because of...yeah...whoo...scary...

Thanks to whoever it was, many pages back, for the screencaps. I do think that the cover looks like it has figures of people on it.

I first noticed the cover and did not think figures of people. I thought it looked like what I have seen on old and valuable books, which is a very pretty cross section of wood pattern. (not like rings, but if it was cut at an angle - you'd get wavy lines)

But it does look old - I'm going with that being Alex doing some research. Maybe the book is where Alex got his creepy stories about the woods and the trees growing and the criminals left there. I think this is entirely plausible.

Correlation - some old book covers were made of wood. Could the wood from Rosswood (local stories, local author, local materials)? That contains information on 1. the area 2. the woods and 3. creepy stories that may relate to the Operator? And the wood cross section happens to show what looks like a figure in the grain? ....I think it's reaching, but it was an interesting thought.

(Side note, while looking for a screencap of wavy wood grain looking book covers, I ran into a book called The Tall Man. Unfortunately it does not look anything like Alex's book. I lol'd.)


If that book had been called the tall man, I would have died laughing.

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muted wrote:
I think entry #45 probable takes place after entry #46. I went back and watched #45 and I noticed that there was no key on the wall.

this may just a inconsistency but that doesn't seem like them....

Good eye. I don't think that was a mistake, considering the amount of attention they gave to that part of the wall in Entry #46. I think we were supposed to notice the huge bunch of keys missing when he grabs the lone key, and then there being nothing there in #45.

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12th wrote:
I have to think that the chronology is 43 -> 44 -> 46 -> X -> 45
(where X accounts for ~3 months of time).


This is the chronology.

Entry #44 follows Entry #43 because of Alex's phone call to Jessica saying that he met up with Amy and to disregard his last message, ie the message Alex left on her phone in Entry #43, presumably earlier that same evening.

Entry #46 does not follow Entry #45 because Entry #45 makes it clear that the events with Hoody/Tim/The Masky Brigade take place 3 months after Jay first meets Alex in Entry #35. It makes far more sense for Jay to have become immediately suspicious of Alex's refusal to let Jay see his apartment, not for Jay to have waited over 3 months to get off his ass and do something.

Remember, Jay is occasionally functionally retarded, but he's still a pretty proactive guy.

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Mr_Magpie wrote:
12th wrote:
I have to think that the chronology is 43 -> 44 -> 46 -> X -> 45
(where X accounts for ~3 months of time).


This is the chronology.

Entry #44 follows Entry #43 because of Alex's phone call to Jessica saying that he met up with Amy and to disregard his last message, ie the message Alex left on her phone in Entry #43, presumably earlier that same evening.

Entry #46 does not follow Entry #45 because Entry #45 makes it clear that the events with Hoody/Tim/The Masky Brigade take place 3 months after Jay first meets Alex in Entry #35. It makes far more sense for Jay to have become immediately suspicious of Alex's refusal to let Jay see his apartment, not for Jay to have waited over 3 months to get off his ass and do something.

Remember, Jay is occasionally functionally retarded, but he's still a pretty proactive guy.


Yeah, this is probably my favorite theory on the timeline, since even for the sake of jumping forward 3 months, I doubt Alex and Jay did nothing note worthy over a 3 month period, it was just to show that the footage he just watched and uploaded was dated 3 months later that everything else he's been posting.

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StarlitVixen wrote:
Mariolee wrote:

The one at the top of this page.
Also, wouldn't Jay have pointed it out if the timeline was out of order. Or has he, because I'm quite forgetful. :p

Nope but he did mention some of his tapes are out of order. True, he didn't say this was from an unmarked tape but he didn't say it WAS from a marked tape.

Mariolee wrote:

I've always believed that the operator has been just trying to take over Alex this entire time, (like the old woman and the main guy in Insidious) but Jay and the Maskies have just been getting in the way, which is the only reason TO even acknowledges them.

Like I said in my other post:
Quote:
I believe it's pretty obvious TO has been simply wanting Alex. And now he's almost completely taken over him. It's like In Insidious (SPOILERS) when the old woman gets closer and closer to the main guy in photos, and at the end when he finally confronts the demon lady, she takes over his body. Actually, it's surprisingly shocking to me now that I realize how closely the relatinoship between TO and Alex is between the demon lady and the main guy/



I definitely agree. I never thought the Operator was really after Jay and that his focus is on Alex. Jay just seems to wind up in the middle of it with two or three different sides bullying him.

The Maskies definitely need Jay... or they want to help him... and they are definitely against Alex.


Cool, we agree! Very Happy
Also, why doesn't someone just ask Jay on Twitter whether Entry 46 is beore or after 45?

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sorry if this has been mentioned b4 but i noticed this from this entry.


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Mariolee wrote:
StarlitVixen wrote:
Mariolee wrote:

The one at the top of this page.
Also, wouldn't Jay have pointed it out if the timeline was out of order. Or has he, because I'm quite forgetful. :p

Nope but he did mention some of his tapes are out of order. True, he didn't say this was from an unmarked tape but he didn't say it WAS from a marked tape.

Mariolee wrote:

I've always believed that the operator has been just trying to take over Alex this entire time, (like the old woman and the main guy in Insidious) but Jay and the Maskies have just been getting in the way, which is the only reason TO even acknowledges them.

Like I said in my other post:
Quote:
I believe it's pretty obvious TO has been simply wanting Alex. And now he's almost completely taken over him. It's like In Insidious (SPOILERS) when the old woman gets closer and closer to the main guy in photos, and at the end when he finally confronts the demon lady, she takes over his body. Actually, it's surprisingly shocking to me now that I realize how closely the relatinoship between TO and Alex is between the demon lady and the main guy/



I definitely agree. I never thought the Operator was really after Jay and that his focus is on Alex. Jay just seems to wind up in the middle of it with two or three different sides bullying him.

The Maskies definitely need Jay... or they want to help him... and they are definitely against Alex.


Cool, we agree! Very Happy
Also, why doesn't someone just ask Jay on Twitter whether Entry 46 is beore or after 45?


There, I did, now lets see if there is some form of response...

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