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yanka
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Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 1214 Location: undesirable
Well, I think it's very matrix-like - to finish without finishing. Like art, it leaves itself open to your own interpretation/conclusion.
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:59 pm
Mag
Boot
Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Europe
re Yanka
Not really. The first Matrix movie was a complete story in itself, even if open to interpretations and speculations, while with the second one everyone knew beforehand there was going to be a number 3.
Although contentwise I was quite disappointed with number 3, I still think it had a logical, even if predictable and shallow, ending.
This thing is not properly ended - it's broken in the middle, unexpectedly, and the remaining part which should be there is simply missing. It's not a story in itself.
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:05 pm
Last edited by Mag on Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:07 pm; edited 1 time in total
XtRaVa
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Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 565 Location: Portsmouth, England
yanka wrote:
Well, I think it's very matrix-like - to finish without finishing. Like art, it leaves itself open to your own interpretation/conclusion.
That is the most bullshit excuse for this lame ending I have ever heard...although I'll give you credit for trying to make it seem okay...lol
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:06 pm
joebrent
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 640 Location: New York, sometimes
Wow Mag - you're entitled to your own opinions, but I have a hard time abiding any criticism of the PMs right now. I thought the ending was cool, and you have to admit the amount of thought and creativity and energy tht was put into this is amazing.
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:09 pm
niobexrev
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Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 428 Location: trapped in my bedroom vortex
There are people who will stand by the belief 100% that this is not Matrix related. I know it's not Matrix(tm), but I think calling it a Matrix fan fiction game is stating the obvious. But that's just me. I enjoyed this game.
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:10 pm
Mag
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Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Europe
re joebrent
You surely have noticed that I said "with all the respect I have for the work they've put in".
As for the ending - sorry. Maybe I'm too demanding, but I couldn't be farther from being satisfied with it
[EDIT: Post scriptum: perhaps I'm so disappointed because of the amount of creativity and the complication of the plot. For a work of this size, this type of ending is simply not enough.]
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:12 pm
Last edited by Mag on Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:16 pm; edited 1 time in total
XtRaVa
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Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 565 Location: Portsmouth, England
Maybe its just me...but I kinda missed what the hell the ending was...what happened?!
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:14 pm
Insomniac
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Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 234 Location: 01
well guys now that this ARG is over ( ) the Insomniac can catch up on his sleep...
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:19 pm
yanka
Fickle
Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 1214 Location: undesirable
XtRaVa wrote:
...I'll give you credit for trying to make it seem okay...lol
thanks, darling.
Mag - I don't think M1 really conclusively ended (and I don't chose to enter a matrix debate here) - I mean, I had more questions about it than about any other book/movie ever, I think (I mean - strictly story-wise). M3 left me hanging as well, and I love it.
As far as this game - personally, I feel the same way. I'm glad I can allow myself to think that Scratch is THE ONE, lol. Seriously, though, I understand what you're saying - virtually every aspect of the plot is left up in the air; for example - where is Ethan? Are Averies dead or not? I just think it's cool to allow yourself to conclude it however you would like; but I also understand how many people would prefer exaclty the opposite
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:21 pm
XtRaVa
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Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 565 Location: Portsmouth, England
Unfortunately for you, you are an Insomniac...so actually, you CANT catch up on your sleep...Sorry to point that out =]
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:21 pm
Insomniac
Decorated
Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 234 Location: 01
XtRaVa wrote:
Unfortunately for you, you are an Insomniac...so actually, you CANT catch up on your sleep...Sorry to point that out =]
zzzzzzzzzzzzz(too late)zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:23 pm
XtRaVa
Unfettered
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 565 Location: Portsmouth, England
Maybe I should join you...I mean, not literally in the same bed O.O oh my...
I have work in the morning and its getting late is what I mean =P
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:26 pm
King Mob
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Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 289 Location: England
Well, then... night all, and thanks for all the dolphins!
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:29 pm
Mag
Boot
Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Europe
re yanka
Concluding however I would like or analysing it however I would like - or rather however I could find arguments for - is what I did writing my MA thesis on contemporary British poetry Part of my education, you could say.
Whatever is there to be answered in the movie is fine, too - especially that you can really sit for hours on end watching it one after another, including 'Animatrix' and playing 'Enter the Matrix' - with a bunch of firends and discuss possibilities.
For a change - here I expected answers.
Or maybe not even answers. I expected that it would leave me feeling that the whole thing was carefully planned.
As it is, I get the opposite - the feeling that they stopped the game right here simply because it became too much for the PMs themselves and they just had no idea what to do next.
Andf I don't mean any disrespect for the PMs - they are only human, after all
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:33 pm
Last edited by Mag on Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:39 pm; edited 1 time in total
bakntime
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Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 462 Location: back in time
How disappointing is this Avery "fleeing" photo? I thought those were original... supoosed to have some special meaning.
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=112407
Oh well
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:35 pm
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