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SecretPerson
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Malachite wrote:
SecretPerson wrote:
Malachite wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
Malachite wrote:

White =/= Black

Blue, Yellow, and Orange =/= Red


Fine... Here's an account of someone having trouble taking pictures because sometimes the black shirts she tried to photograph would sometimes come out reddish, and would sometimes come out black.


It's not that I think this is impossible; I just find it unlikely that Troseph would allow for an imperfection like that, especially with such a prominent detail in their flagship character. They know that viewers dissect these things with obscene thoroughness, and I doubt they'd view the tie's color as a viable red herring, as it would make them look inconsistent and amateurish. So, faith in them in hand, I see it as intentional and significant.

Remember that this is supposed to be Jay/Alex running around with a camera - they're not making some professional movie or something.

I don't see how the effects of lighting on a tie is "imperfection." There's really nothing Troseph can do about that and it's natural.


If they can add in tearing, static, and compression, they can go in and color correct a tie. Troy's gone back and snipped out Spongebob; inconsistency with the tie seems like too distracting a continuity error to just overlook.

Why would he need to color correct the tie? Its color looks different because of the lighting, and if he changed the color then the tie would seemingly be defying the laws of the universe and photography.
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Riovas
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Malachite wrote:
SecretPerson wrote:
Malachite wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
Malachite wrote:

White =/= Black

Blue, Yellow, and Orange =/= Red


Fine... Here's an account of someone having trouble taking pictures because sometimes the black shirts she tried to photograph would sometimes come out reddish, and would sometimes come out black.


It's not that I think this is impossible; I just find it unlikely that Troseph would allow for an imperfection like that, especially with such a prominent detail in their flagship character. They know that viewers dissect these things with obscene thoroughness, and I doubt they'd view the tie's color as a viable red herring, as it would make them look inconsistent and amateurish. So, faith in them in hand, I see it as intentional and significant.

Remember that this is supposed to be Jay/Alex running around with a camera - they're not making some professional movie or something.

I don't see how the effects of lighting on a tie is "imperfection." There's really nothing Troseph can do about that and it's natural.


If they can add in tearing, static, and compression, they can go in and color correct a tie. Troy's gone back and snipped out Spongebob; inconsistency with the tie seems like too distracting a continuity error to just overlook.


Because color changes are caused naturally. That's like saying they shouldn't have filmed in night vision because everything is green and grey and it MUST have a reason besides being outside!

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Riovas wrote:
Malachite wrote:
SecretPerson wrote:
Malachite wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
Malachite wrote:

White =/= Black

Blue, Yellow, and Orange =/= Red


Fine... Here's an account of someone having trouble taking pictures because sometimes the black shirts she tried to photograph would sometimes come out reddish, and would sometimes come out black.


It's not that I think this is impossible; I just find it unlikely that Troseph would allow for an imperfection like that, especially with such a prominent detail in their flagship character. They know that viewers dissect these things with obscene thoroughness, and I doubt they'd view the tie's color as a viable red herring, as it would make them look inconsistent and amateurish. So, faith in them in hand, I see it as intentional and significant.

Remember that this is supposed to be Jay/Alex running around with a camera - they're not making some professional movie or something.

I don't see how the effects of lighting on a tie is "imperfection." There's really nothing Troseph can do about that and it's natural.


If they can add in tearing, static, and compression, they can go in and color correct a tie. Troy's gone back and snipped out Spongebob; inconsistency with the tie seems like too distracting a continuity error to just overlook.


Because color changes are caused naturally. That's like saying they shouldn't have filmed in night vision because everything is green and grey and it MUST have a reason besides being outside!


I would have been happy if they wouldn't have though Razz

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SecretPerson wrote:
Malachite wrote:
SecretPerson wrote:
Malachite wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
Malachite wrote:

White =/= Black

Blue, Yellow, and Orange =/= Red


Fine... Here's an account of someone having trouble taking pictures because sometimes the black shirts she tried to photograph would sometimes come out reddish, and would sometimes come out black.


It's not that I think this is impossible; I just find it unlikely that Troseph would allow for an imperfection like that, especially with such a prominent detail in their flagship character. They know that viewers dissect these things with obscene thoroughness, and I doubt they'd view the tie's color as a viable red herring, as it would make them look inconsistent and amateurish. So, faith in them in hand, I see it as intentional and significant.

Remember that this is supposed to be Jay/Alex running around with a camera - they're not making some professional movie or something.

I don't see how the effects of lighting on a tie is "imperfection." There's really nothing Troseph can do about that and it's natural.


If they can add in tearing, static, and compression, they can go in and color correct a tie. Troy's gone back and snipped out Spongebob; inconsistency with the tie seems like too distracting a continuity error to just overlook.

Why would he need to color correct the tie? Its color looks different because of the lighting, and if he changed the color then the tie would seemingly be defying the laws of the universe and photography.


Except the suit is clearly black in the shot. Dead black. Unlike the tie.

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Involving/including a new character and then referring to him by an obscure nickname shortly thereafter is something an amateur/extremely inexperienced writer would do... and obviously Troy and Joesph have more sense that that...


Except the other likely candidates are the Masks, one of which was recently introduced.

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Malachite wrote:
SecretPerson wrote:
Malachite wrote:
SecretPerson wrote:
Malachite wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
Malachite wrote:

White =/= Black

Blue, Yellow, and Orange =/= Red


Fine... Here's an account of someone having trouble taking pictures because sometimes the black shirts she tried to photograph would sometimes come out reddish, and would sometimes come out black.


It's not that I think this is impossible; I just find it unlikely that Troseph would allow for an imperfection like that, especially with such a prominent detail in their flagship character. They know that viewers dissect these things with obscene thoroughness, and I doubt they'd view the tie's color as a viable red herring, as it would make them look inconsistent and amateurish. So, faith in them in hand, I see it as intentional and significant.

Remember that this is supposed to be Jay/Alex running around with a camera - they're not making some professional movie or something.

I don't see how the effects of lighting on a tie is "imperfection." There's really nothing Troseph can do about that and it's natural.


If they can add in tearing, static, and compression, they can go in and color correct a tie. Troy's gone back and snipped out Spongebob; inconsistency with the tie seems like too distracting a continuity error to just overlook.

Why would he need to color correct the tie? Its color looks different because of the lighting, and if he changed the color then the tie would seemingly be defying the laws of the universe and photography.


Except the suit is clearly black in the shot. Dead black. Unlike the tie.

We've already gone over this.
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Riovas wrote:
@craicismighty: good captures. I'll believe it as being Alex's eye in TTA's video.


Thanks. TTA has had Jay himself in a video so I figure it could be Alex.

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 		I just made a short video using ties I have available to me to demonstrate that lighting changes the color. I'm going to upload it in a second, and hopefully it will serve as definitive proof that lighting changes the apparent color of the material.

Stay tuned.
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Slight wrote:
wall of self-important ass-talkery


Yep, five years of video editorial experience, five seperate cameras, 7+ years acting experience and current director/writer/editor duties of a Slender Man blog sure is talking out of my ass.

I sure have no idea what I'm talking about with my five fucking years of editorial experience.

Let's go over YOUR wall of self-important ass-talkery.

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BACKLIGHTING

It has nothing to do with backlighting, that's an entirely different thing. It's LIGHTING. If you don't know how lighting effects video, you must never have used a camera.

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Your argument is what... The red color everyone sees doesn't exist?

Yes. Yes it is.

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You are quite incorrect and as someone who knows a wee bit more than you on the actual properties of visible light and materials sciences, I can ASSURE you, what you are talking about is a real phenomenon

I do hope you're trolling. I really, really do. Refer to my list of experience above.

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But the fact that you don't know the distinguishing features of color shifts means you are unable to look beyond your own ideas and are therefore useless to this discussion.

Now you're just looking for buzzwords to make yourself look more intelligent.
PROTIP: you're not.

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Adults know that it is better to keep one's mouth shut when they are ill-informed.

Oh god the irony.

In short: go sodomize yourself with a stick.
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I just made a short video using ties I have available to me to demonstrate that lighting changes the color. I'm going to upload it in a second, and hopefully it will serve as definitive proof that lighting changes the apparent color of the material.

Stay tuned.

Thank you. I was about to make an entire new topic about the tie crap.
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SecretPerson wrote:
Malachite wrote:
SecretPerson wrote:
Malachite wrote:
SecretPerson wrote:
Malachite wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
Malachite wrote:

White =/= Black

Blue, Yellow, and Orange =/= Red


Fine... Here's an account of someone having trouble taking pictures because sometimes the black shirts she tried to photograph would sometimes come out reddish, and would sometimes come out black.


It's not that I think this is impossible; I just find it unlikely that Troseph would allow for an imperfection like that, especially with such a prominent detail in their flagship character. They know that viewers dissect these things with obscene thoroughness, and I doubt they'd view the tie's color as a viable red herring, as it would make them look inconsistent and amateurish. So, faith in them in hand, I see it as intentional and significant.

Remember that this is supposed to be Jay/Alex running around with a camera - they're not making some professional movie or something.

I don't see how the effects of lighting on a tie is "imperfection." There's really nothing Troseph can do about that and it's natural.


If they can add in tearing, static, and compression, they can go in and color correct a tie. Troy's gone back and snipped out Spongebob; inconsistency with the tie seems like too distracting a continuity error to just overlook.

Why would he need to color correct the tie? Its color looks different because of the lighting, and if he changed the color then the tie would seemingly be defying the laws of the universe and photography.


Except the suit is clearly black in the shot. Dead black. Unlike the tie.

We've already gone over this.


Not sure if you're paying attention...I'm saying the tie needs to be color corrected to be consistent with the suit and previous appearances, if in fact the color difference is not intentional.

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 		^IT'S HARDLY EVEN FUCKING NOTICABLE UNLESS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TINY FLAWS IN CLOTHING.

In a recent shoot for my Slender Man blog, I'm wearing different shoes. I guess it must be an entirely different character and the real character is gone or dead. That makes perfect sense.

I really hope you and Slight are trolling, because 50/10.
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Randoman96 wrote:
Unnecessary antagonism.


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 		Ok, maybe this will help. An example of light hitting black fabric, causing both red and blue colors to appear on camera while leaving other black fabric in the same image black.



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You are quite incorrect and as someone who knows a wee bit more than you on the actual properties of visible light and materials sciences, I can ASSURE you, what you are talking about is a real phenomenon


If you have ever read a sentence of a materials book, you will know materials change in color based on phase and radiation i.e. light waves.

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Not sure if you're paying attention...I'm saying the tie needs to be color corrected to be consistent with the suit and previous appearances, if in fact the color difference is not intentional.


WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT COLOR CHANGES WITH LIGHT!!! ITS NATURAL. THERE IS NO NEED TO EDIT NATURAL, PHYSICAL OCCURRENCES

I proclaim we end this tie madness by ignoring it and move on. If, by chance in another entry that slendy's tie is CLEARLY visible as a different color for more than a half-second and is not blurry, we can bring this up again.

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Malachite wrote:
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Unnecessary antagonism.

You know, it's not even that you guys disagree. I don't care about that. Think the tie is red all you want.

It's the fact that YOU THINK YOU ARE RIGHT AND ARE ALMOST COMPLETELY DISREGARDING FACTS FROM PEOPLE WITH MORE EXPERIENCE THAN YOU. Except for maybe pravado, I've never seen more closed-minded people on this forum.
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