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elkapo
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waitress#2 wrote:
Chris has a dog. Very Happy Nice he has some company.

Yes, but I immediately recalled the masked man with the dog at #38 Shocked

waitress#2 wrote:
Transcript is attached.
I would transcribe the phone calls that OWP received but I can't understand them.

Thanks, as always!
I tried to see this video with the new tool of translated transcription that bring some videos on youtube, and I thought I had come to understand a bit, actually I did not understand anything ... Laughing

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More phone stuff! +_+

Around 4:15 today, got a mini conversation with... Someone using Jess' phone (those of us on IRC came to the conclusion that DNC cloned the sim cartds from Chris and Jess' phones, and I don't think Chris would talk this way plus he turned Jess' phone off) anyway, some shit was going on in my personal life so I took a raincheck and haven't heard back yet.
Convo:
?: "You called him a lot, didn't you?"
Me: "What? Who is this?"
?: "Did he ever tell you anything?"
Me: "Who is this?"
(Crisis shit)
Me: Uhh... No? Look, I'm sorry but you kinda came in the middle of a personal crisis. Can we talk later please?
(After crisis shit stops, around 5ish)
Me: Assuming this is Chris then.... Alright. No, he didn't. All the calls I've gotten are on my youtube which I've sent you links to before... Nothing outside of those, no.
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I don't think this IS Chris though (first off because whoever it was was pretty rude ;n; ) and because he turned Jess' phone off.

Waiting for a reply still though. :/ I might have missed my chance because I called for a raincheck though. D: maybe whoever will text back tomm or tonight maybe? :/
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I understand nothing. A number can be active on two terminals at the same time?

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Clearing up all the midnight rambling shit and some stuff that happened over in IRC/texts last night that's worth mentioning and some theorycrafting shit.
OKAY.
After the texts that are ^^^ up there, I got a few more about 9ish last night. It's def Chris.

Chris: Maybe sometimes I want him to find me.
Me: Geeze, being a bit reckless... :/ So, yea, this is Chris, right? Mkay.
Chris: Yes. Am I dumb for turning it on?
Me: Well, rekless, yea. :/ What are you planning on doing if he DOES find you? Think. If you're gonna have a trap, at least have a plan, man! ;n;
Chris: I can't tell if I have clarity or not. I miss her.
Me: Take it from someone who knowns, emotions getting the best of you can make you feel invincible or suicidal and shit, but take time to think stuff out.
Chris: Sometimes I just listent to her messages over and over.
Me: Maybe try talking to Adams, or your therapist? I'd try to help, but I don't really...
Chris: You did call him a lot though. Which side are you on?
Me: Whichever side keeps you safe, and if that means playing along with his game to try to get information (which I haven't) then I will.
Chris: What would you do if you were me?
Me: Honestly, I would probably just curl up in a ball in bed and just stop existing. You're made of stronger stuff than I am. You can make it through this.
Me: And you aren't alone. You don't really know us personally, but all of us tweeting words of encouragement and stuff, we're all here for you through ALL of this. No matter what. Smile
Chris: Thank you. I just need to find Emily.

And then, around 12ish, I got a call from a PRIVATE NUMBER (basicly meaning that it's blocked) that was shit quality, DNC using a new phone to do a killcall for someone named.... Tammy? Terry? Something. Screaming and static and shit.

But, see, it wasn't Jess' phone.
Because Chris has Jess' phone.
I think the sim card cloning thing was wrong. I think something might be wrong with Chris. He might have been the one who made the voicemails and called me with Jess' phone earlier... O__o I have a few theories as to why, but he mentioned in the texts that "Sometimes I just listen to her messages over and over" and one of the major themes in the odd voicemail mashup-thing was the "I will not be saved, I will be spared, if you meet him..." voicemail from Kathleen. :<

Theory time! I have two theories about this, both of them aren't very pretty.

Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Yes, yes it's contrived and a bit cliché, but hear me out! DID is caused by traumatic events that the host doesn't want to realize/accept/live through. This idea first came to me when jono pointed out that if it is Chris, it's kind of out of character for him to be talking like he was^^^^. I don't know a whole lot about how the personalities actually form, if they just spring up or if it's a slow process (though I don't know if others really have solid answers on it either) but this could be the beginning stages. Or some other type of dissociative disorder.
Basicly, the theory is this:
Kathleen is dead, and Chris can't handle it so he ends up developing DID, and for whatever reason his alter decides to put together the creepy voicemail shit. Or it's some other type of DD and it's just his dissociated state coping in an odd way. :/

Bipolar Disorder
Gerald had bipolar, didn't he? In... the conversation with the mom or sister or whoever, in the kitchen. She said he had bipolar. Idk, but maybe Chris has something like my own dad has, it's like.. it's basicly latent bipolar disposition or something.. that's how the psychiatrist described it to me since I might have it. :< It's like... if you have the right genes, then you might have a switch, that's your bipolar disorder, and for all or most of your life it might be OFF. But then something really stressful happens that you can't handle, and the switch flips, and you suddenly start showing signs of bipolar disorder; but up until then you're pretty damn 'normal'. Again, the trigger being Kathleen's death, or having to hide from DNC or the combination of just... everything. Sad
Theory:
Chris put together the voicemails in some manic state maybe.

I've asked Chris on twitter if he's missing any time or even if he DOES recall putting the voicemails together, either when calm or maybe in a manic state, IDK. Nothing yet, but I'll ofC have more to go on after that stuff gets answered. Smile

And as always we're still all in IRC to theorize, so I'm not just some nutter talking to herself in there about all the abnormal psych stuff Chris might have. XD
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OhWhatProvidence wrote:
Clearing up all the midnight rambling shit and some stuff that happened over in IRC/texts last night that's worth mentioning and some theorycrafting shit.
OKAY.
After the texts that are ^^^ up there, I got a few more about 9ish last night. It's def Chris.

Chris: Maybe sometimes I want him to find me.
Me: Geeze, being a bit reckless... :/ So, yea, this is Chris, right? Mkay.
Chris: Yes. Am I dumb for turning it on?
Me: Well, rekless, yea. :/ What are you planning on doing if he DOES find you? Think. If you're gonna have a trap, at least have a plan, man! ;n;
Chris: I can't tell if I have clarity or not. I miss her.
Me: Take it from someone who knowns, emotions getting the best of you can make you feel invincible or suicidal and shit, but take time to think stuff out.
Chris: Sometimes I just listent to her messages over and over.
Me: Maybe try talking to Adams, or your therapist? I'd try to help, but I don't really...
Chris: You did call him a lot though. Which side are you on?
Me: Whichever side keeps you safe, and if that means playing along with his game to try to get information (which I haven't) then I will.
Chris: What would you do if you were me?
Me: Honestly, I would probably just curl up in a ball in bed and just stop existing. You're made of stronger stuff than I am. You can make it through this.
Me: And you aren't alone. You don't really know us personally, but all of us tweeting words of encouragement and stuff, we're all here for you through ALL of this. No matter what. Smile
Chris: Thank you. I just need to find Emily.

And then, around 12ish, I got a call from a PRIVATE NUMBER (basicly meaning that it's blocked) that was shit quality, DNC using a new phone to do a killcall for someone named.... Tammy? Terry? Something. Screaming and static and shit.

But, see, it wasn't Jess' phone.
Because Chris has Jess' phone.
I think the sim card cloning thing was wrong. I think something might be wrong with Chris. He might have been the one who made the voicemails and called me with Jess' phone earlier... O__o I have a few theories as to why, but he mentioned in the texts that "Sometimes I just listen to her messages over and over" and one of the major themes in the odd voicemail mashup-thing was the "I will not be saved, I will be spared, if you meet him..." voicemail from Kathleen. :<

Theory time! I have two theories about this, both of them aren't very pretty.

Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Yes, yes it's contrived and a bit cliché, but hear me out! DID is caused by traumatic events that the host doesn't want to realize/accept/live through. This idea first came to me when jono pointed out that if it is Chris, it's kind of out of character for him to be talking like he was^^^^. I don't know a whole lot about how the personalities actually form, if they just spring up or if it's a slow process (though I don't know if others really have solid answers on it either) but this could be the beginning stages. Or some other type of dissociative disorder.
Basicly, the theory is this:
Kathleen is dead, and Chris can't handle it so he ends up developing DID, and for whatever reason his alter decides to put together the creepy voicemail shit. Or it's some other type of DD and it's just his dissociated state coping in an odd way. :/

Bipolar Disorder
Gerald had bipolar, didn't he? In... the conversation with the mom or sister or whoever, in the kitchen. She said he had bipolar. Idk, but maybe Chris has something like my own dad has, it's like.. it's basicly latent bipolar disposition or something.. that's how the psychiatrist described it to me since I might have it. :< It's like... if you have the right genes, then you might have a switch, that's your bipolar disorder, and for all or most of your life it might be OFF. But then something really stressful happens that you can't handle, and the switch flips, and you suddenly start showing signs of bipolar disorder; but up until then you're pretty damn 'normal'. Again, the trigger being Kathleen's death, or having to hide from DNC or the combination of just... everything. Sad
Theory:
Chris put together the voicemails in some manic state maybe.

I've asked Chris on twitter if he's missing any time or even if he DOES recall putting the voicemails together, either when calm or maybe in a manic state, IDK. Nothing yet, but I'll ofC have more to go on after that stuff gets answered. Smile

And as always we're still all in IRC to theorize, so I'm not just some nutter talking to herself in there about all the abnormal psych stuff Chris might have. XD


Likely theories. Smile
Mixing Xanax with beer could be making him behave strangely as well. Neutral

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Again with the DD stuff!

Depersonalization Disorder!
Also sometimes classified as an anxeity disorder. I'm looking up stuff from more rleiable websites than wikipedia right now, but it seems like it might fit! over in IRC watiress brought up a tweet from a while ago, about Chris just going home and sitting in the dark, meaning he might have been showing sighns for a while now. So, could be!
-poofs away to research more-
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Yeah! This sounds very consistent! I really did not know how to interpret what was happening, even from reinstatement, when Chris put the mask on, and things began to go slowly. The last video, and the dog. The first thing that came to mind was the old video of hooded with the dog. Nor should we assume that Chris is a good soul, in the interview with dec. Adams may have lied a lot, or simply not telling the truth. Talk of the medication the doctor, right? but the video is called self-medicate. Maybe ... just maybe, Chris is not what it seems. Not anymore. This would explain some things. Sorry I can not communicate fully, I hope you understand me.

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New DNC video



YouTube: Link


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Wow, this video was a mass of symbolism.

What do you Carrie- Carrie is the book by Stephen King, most known for its film adaption from 1976.

An interesting point, look at the image of the victim when the light takes a red tinge and then look at the right side of the film's poster: http://www.traileraddict.com/content/mgm/carrie.jpg

They do look very similar.

Carrie is based around the idea of the quiet girl becoming powerful. The only Carrie like figure has been the Mystery caller (whose name I can't remember) as she went from quiet friend to enemy

Pose- It is the traditional image of crucifixion and the "raising up" that Adam's mentioned before. It has great religious symbolism but was also common at the time.

Bonds- for the last two videos DNC has used red twine to tie victims. This could be reference to the concept of a Scapegoat. Many Christian settlements used to get a goat and tie a red ribbon around its horn and cast it out into the wild. This goat (or the Azazel as it is called) would act as penance for the sins of the community. In theory if the goat was to return and the ribbon was now white it would signify that God had removed the sins of the people.

This could also link to the blood smearing, as the goat as a blood sacrifice was common place and often a second goat (The Lord's Goat) would be sacrificed at the time the scapegoat was sent out of the settlement

Rabbit Ears- Based on DNCs previous actions it seems that this is the White Rabbit from Alice in Wonderland. The white Rabbit is the first Wonderland character Alice ever meets (and the only one she meets outside of Wonderland)

He is also the second character who works for the Duchess (Cheshire is owned by her) DNC never commented on a tweet I made about the Duchess but could this be a link to a higher power the controls DNC? This is very fitting with "Where is she?" line, the white Rabbit is running to the Duchess

The Rabbit was based on Dean Liddell, Alice's father, He was always running late he was a priest and was famed for arriving late to services.

Also a point, this is Carroll's description of the White Rabbit:

Quote:
"Was he framed on the 'Alice' lines, or meant as a contrast? As a contrast, distinctly. For her 'youth,' 'audacity,' 'vigour,' and 'swift directness of purpose,' read 'elderly,' 'timid,' 'feeble,' and 'nervously shilly-shallying,' and you will get something of what I meant him to be. I think the White Rabbit should wear spectacles. I am sure his voice should quaver, and his knees quiver, and his whole air suggest a total inability to say "Bo" to a goose!"


Also this could be DNCs version of a pun, Carrie's full name was Carrie White.

Tattoo The victims tattoo is the Ankh. The Ankh originated in Ancient Egypt. Its meaning is debated and it has a lot of mythology around it.

It is most often seen as the "key of life" its meaning as a hieroglyph is "eternal life" (again DNCs idea of a joke?)

However, it is now debated with modern scholars suggesting it is a depiction of the Nile and it showing how the Nile was the life of Egypt (as its floods made the land fertile)

As a symbol it was also used by the Copts (Egypt's native Christians) as a way of showing the cross of the crucifixion (now called the Coptic Cross)

It is also found in Bronze age Greek settlements where it is a combination of the Holy knot and a double edged Axe



The key question to this whole thing is if this girl could know Emily or if she is a random girl and DNC is just planning to act at random until he forces someone to stop him or he stumbles onto Emily.

The switch in the symbolism is also odd it is now so mixed it's almost like DNC has lost logic and is now throwing everything he knows at each one. There are some overall themes to them, Alice in Wonderland remains with Cheshire and the White Rabbit accounted for (and in the IRC we have debated who Alice is and who Hatter is right now). The other is religion, while there has been religious symbolism before it's never been this obvious or this key (the line from Amazing Grace being the most outward) but here there is a focus on Pre-Christian religion with Paganism in the last video and the Egyptian Parthenon in this. Both of these are mixed with Crucifixion and in this video the atonement of sin.

The idea of DNC atoning for sin is rather bizarre, as until this point he has relished his position as the Devil, using himself as a horseman of the Apocalypse why now would he feel the need to create symbols and scenes that atone for Sin? The only logical idea is he is atoning for someone else's sin (Chris?) or he has seen the error of his ways.

Or could this be the growth of a new system, in much the same way Christianity over took many regions could DNC be suggestion the group he is part of will wipe out the old ways and bring in a new system? (Scientology?).


Another thing that strikes me is the focus on the feminine in this video. Carrie is a story about the growth into womanhood and the "curse" of feminine (as symbolised by Carrie and her first period) the Ankh would later become the symbol of Venus which is now used as the universal symbol for the female gender, the presence of the White rabbit could link this girl to either her father or the Duchess.

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In the static at 8:21 it looks like, there is a hidden text, but I can' make a good screenshot. Someone noticed that?
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beastriker wrote:
In the static at 8:21 it looks like, there is a hidden text, but I can' make a good screenshot. Someone noticed that?


http://www.picpaste.com/m4KODhVP.png

Its very hard to make out so far all I get is gibberish

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"i am coming for u"



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Nice find! Cool
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Yes. I had not seen the first time and neither saw after reading your comment. Every time he makes it more difficult.

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Jono and I have been trying to make some sense of the backmasking in the video.
Jono's clip -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/llp6bq
My clip -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/42jkvx

A lot of weird stuff. There is a web address that starts at 0.57 in my clip, but after the www it is impossible to understand.

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