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OhWhatProvidence
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 		* one of those masks on the wall was Melissa's, wasn't it? Red and gold.

* there was that one video with the girl with the bridle and some showhorse headress thing, right? Maybe.... that's somehow related.

...that's really all I have to add. I had a few things I noticed on IRC, but they aren't really too relevant to right now, just stuff about if the police actually searched the house/did a foriensics sweep or not. It looks like not because everything is there and pretty untouched and the blood is still there, but Chris said that the police were at the house around the time Kathleen died, right? I guess they didn't really have cause/warrant/far enough long in the case to consider the rest of the house a crime scene?
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 		There are plants (food?) planted where they buried Kathleen. Or at least that is what it looked like to me.

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 		Yea, some sort of climbing ivy maybe, that's what it looked like to me. The leaves are kind of big though. I guess nature just took over after they filled up the hole.
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one of those masks on the wall was Melissa's, wasn't it? Red and gold.


yes it was, but that mask is pretty common and the one you will find on every stall in Venice around Carnivale, so it might be a coincidence.

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there was that one video with the girl with the bridle and some showhorse headress thing, right? Maybe.... that's somehow related.


oh yes! it was one scene and has bugged us on the irc every since. But those harnesses are rather special and hard to find...and none of those look like they would work or fit so well on a person.

But it would explain the sheer number of them he has.

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There are plants (food?) planted where they buried Kathleen. Or at least that is what it looked like to me.


Yes, its creepy ivy, it will follow that wood, but its a bit quick, I mean I don't think it would cover the area in the space of a few months.

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just stuff about if the police actually searched the house/did a foriensics sweep or not. It looks like not because everything is there and pretty untouched and the blood is still there, but Chris said that the police were at the house around the time Kathleen died, right? I guess they didn't really have cause/warrant/far enough long in the case to consider the rest of the house a crime scene?


I am with you on this, I mean they would search the whole house in theory, and how did Chris get it, even if the police were done with it, you would expect the place to be cleared in some form, not just left empty like that.

Also the horses, how are they wandering around loose? you would think it would be reported to animal control, especially if they knew he had horses.

Something is up, notice how methodical Chris seems here, focused, accurate, even clever with the spotting of the attic. The Chris from the pervious videos is off his head. Why the change and why the lack of context? I mean why return to a house he knows is empty, sure there is evidence there but how in the world does it help and I can't see him deciding to go on a whim.

I do wonder if the background noise is Lilith, she talked him into it? I mean its all so random.

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 		Just a maybe not so weird observation from roger in irc. Chris is "son of sam" ?????
Samual... Samuel. Gerald Samuel/Samual Smith.

I am still completely stuck on the horse. But I hope the horse isn't DNC because I'm not sure I can accept that much of a jump the shark twist.

The question I have is who is taking care of the horse? Why is it just wandering around? Did Chris have oats in his pocket? I really do not understand the introduction of the horse. :X

The only horse I remember seeing previously was the image tweeted to maximus of the 4 horsemen.

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 		Wait, the Berkowitz "Son of Sam"? XD

That... hm. I'd have to think about that. The MO and situation are pretty different... There might be connections, but IDK. XD Seriously?

...Unless the horse we just saw is taking the place of his dog. XD
I have to admit, I might actually like that plot twist. XD

-researches-

Seconding the "who's taking care of horse" one.

EDIT: Research things.
Son of Sam, Sam was the neighbor's name. The reason he is called SoS is because Berk decided to call himself Son of Sam in a letter he wrote to the police. It doesn't have anything to do with the fact that his father was named Sam- His father's name was Tony, and early in his life he was adopted by Nathan. (He did apparently /think/ he had a father named Sam? Or he called the dog his father. Something. Letter is linked below vvvvv )

This letter is very very shiny and pretty when compared to MDT:
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/notorious/berkowitz/letter_1.html

Also, this from the Wikipedia page:
[quote= Wikipedia]Berkowitz later amended his confession to claim he was the shooter in only two incidents, personally killing three people and wounding a fourth. The other victims were killed, Berkowitz claimed, by members of a violent satanic cult of which he was a member.[/quote]



"...there are other Sons out there, God help the world"
O_o
Have more things to say about Berk, but for now bed. Others can research, it's pretty interesting, there are a few parallels, but some of them are also just common of SKs, so.... Eh.

OH! This is very very shiny:
http://www.nndb.com/people/278/000025203/

Also found odd whispers of things about Berk and Zodiac somehow being connected.... Haven't looked into it /at all/ (being lazy/tired), but it's... interesting, if it's true. rather unlikely though, since the timing of the killings and the states far apart and cool off periods... Maybe? Idk.


/is probably reading waaaaay too far into something that's just a common name, but w/e.
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I am still completely stuck on the horse. But I hope the horse isn't DNC because I'm not sure I can accept that much of a jump the shark twist.

The question I have is who is taking care of the horse? Why is it just wandering around? Did Chris have oats in his pocket? I really do not understand the introduction of the horse. :X


Well in theory it came back as it presumed it was its owner. Horses can quite naturally live in the wild provided they have the space (and I presume this horse would live in a field near to the shed). Horses can live off grass and nonpoisonous weeds they can eat tree bark for fiber and often lick rocks and soil for vitamins and minerals.

So it could be living wild right now.


Just a point, there is a horse in "Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There". It is a white horse ridden by the White knight (go figure). The white knight saves Alice from the Red Knight. Note the white knight cannot ride his horse and carries several odd items on his horse (including a bee hive and plum pudding) and is said to like inventing things. He is said to have blue eyes and shaggy hair and a kind and gentle face which is basically a description of Lewis Carroll and many think he based the knight on himself.

The white knight is the only character who is kind to Alice because he likes her, rather than being kind as he wants Alice to do something for him. Alice also seems to like the White Knight as at the end of the book she remebers him the best.

So could the horse be a symbol of the arrival of a saviour for Chris (if we presume Chris is Alice)


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Wait, the Berkowitz "Son of Sam"? XD

That... hm. I'd have to think about that. The MO and situation are pretty different... There might be connections, but IDK. XD Seriously?

...Unless the horse we just saw is taking the place of his dog. XD
I have to admit, I might actually like that plot twist. XD


Well remeber at the start DNC was calling himself an imitator and there could be links here. Maybe the change in MO is due to a change in influence. I wonder if this links to the masks. Note DNCs mask covers his face, the skull is the basis of all human faces and has no identity the ventillator reduces the organs for breathing to their most basic.

DNCs masked face is a blank slate with no identity, maybe he attaches an identity over that? And thus becomes diffrent killers.

That might also account for the "swap" of DNCs. As once we saw one unmasked and he showed himself as such he could no longer be that DNC he was no longer a blank body on which to attach someone elses identity he now had his own (as a lover of cheap cocktails). Thus they had to get a new DNC who wears the blank mask again, the one that a new identity can be pasted over at will.

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 		Actually we already see a horse before, in the first entry, and is suspiciously similar, although, given the time that has passed, this could not be the same horse, but it is simply something that connects the old videos of the father of Chris with his uncle's house.

http://box.jisko.net/i/657d4be3.jpg

Edit: We can view also the horse in entry #6.

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 		New MDT video:



YouTube: Link

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 		Random rambling to myself in IRC I'm too lazy/overheated to edit into post format:
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OhWhatProvidence I don't know, for the sake of the story he should tell her- unless she finds out on her own eventually.

OhWhatProvidence but keeping in line with the TINAG, it would be nice for him to put it in the past.

OhWhatProvidence Of course, we don't really know if that's possible, because DNC's only preoccupied for /now/, we don't really know what he's doing or how much longer he's going to do whatever it is that's keeping him off Chris's case.

OhWhatProvidence Unless he is working on something for Chris to deal with, but is keeping silent about it (for once)

OhWhatProvidence in that case, he might need to tell Lilith anyway, because it's still a present threat even if it doesn't seem like it.

OhWhatProvidence First thing that comes to mind is, oddly enough, Dark Knight Rises, the whole "He's dead. We don't have to deal with him anymore." "Then show me his body." DNC might not be on his case right now, but that doesn't mean it's over.

OhWhatProvidence I'd say not until DNC is dead, but we don't know who else is out there as a part of this.

OhWhatProvidence I think he should tell her, but only for her own safety and so she doesn't freak out that he was keeping secrets. (I remember Kathleen freaking out the first time he showed her the tapes, didn't she?) Also, because in a way, the threat is still there and she needs to know about it, again for both of their's saftey.


Also, sidenote: Going to AnimeFest very very last-minute, as Gerald/baghead, (only costume I have done in short-notice) I'm not expecting anyone to recognize me, but if you do that would be amazing just to come up and say hello or something. I could pretend like I'm kidnapping you for a photo or something. XD
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Welp.

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Called it.


someone hold me. Shocked

Is there some demon dog in the bottom right corner, or am I just tired? It looks a lot like a dog. Watermark of some sort or... idk. tiredtired.
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 		There is code of some sort that flashes in the lower right hand corner at one point in time.

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 		011- -1001 || ?
011001011 || ?
011011101 || ?
011011111 || ?
011100101 || ?
01100101- || e?

I don't think it's 8-bit binary code because each string has nine numbers, not eight, except for the last and first ones, unless it's going in a completely different sequence

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 		011011001
011001011
011011101
011011111
011100101
01100101


Removing the remaining one in each line is translated as"lenore" and at tinyurl lead to: http://love.elhe.ru/
I do not remember the other site that DNC used to shorten addresses...

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