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[Gnash]

It could be two people. It would explain why the things DNC tweets sometimes seem contradictory.

There's also two people (besides the girl) on some of the videos MDT posted.

We don't really know who either of those are. It could be MDT's father and DNC. Or, if MDT's father isn't actually on the tapes at all, it could be DNC and someone else.

[labfly]

[OhWhatProvidence]

Ah, those points make sense. I can see it being two people, given that evidence.

[tijde]

[heartagramhippie]

If it happens to be two people do you think the uncle knows? I mean, what if it really isn't his father in the tapes, but tapes his father found. He's showing his son what he was searching and ended up getting in trouble for it. Is father be came distant and paranoid making him distant and maybe even violent to the family. This is why no one liked him especially since what he was into. The family thought the videos were his and might have seen it from time to time, thought he got off to it and found him to be a pervert and sick. Which is also why he made him self even more distant. He thinks maybe his son can figure it out and left it to him and no one else. But now DNC sees that he is using YouTube as a way to get more people to see and try to help him find who did this. DNC is in the videos, it has to be him! Why else would he be so mad he is getting the cops involved?! Why else would he be killing again? Most killers get off on seeing their old scores, maybe watching the videos is getting him off again! I'd be afraid of the second person gets involved too. More deaths and even worse, MDT might be in more trouble and end up dead like his dad!

[beastriker]

The "DNC=Two people"-thesis I think is wrong.
DNC is just one of the "killer" (so the group is even bigger than 1 perosn, but DNC is only one of them, or maybe he isn't one of them, but is related to them, or a copy-cat!?)

The new video is a clue, that it is only one:



DNC I think is seen here, the man wears the same mask, as the one, which contacted via skype!
The body looks similiar to his uncle. Maybe DNC=MDT's uncle?

[labfly]

can't see how this new video tells us it is only 1 person (or not a pair). can you elaborate on why?

and here's some info on the book, This Perfect Day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Perfect_Day

[Gnash]

So MDT is being stalked


I agree with beastriker that it's DNC in the video, but I don't think MDT's uncle and DNC are the same person, his uncle has a heavier build.


The old camera looks very like the same one that's being used in "Strange Clip #8". It's not possible to be sure though.


The other camcorder looks like a TRV57 or TRV67 which is likely the same one that's being used in "Strange Clip #4". The instruction manual shown in clip #4 (page 41) is the same as page 41 of the instruction manual for the TRV57/TRV67.

[maximus]

DNC as multiple people: sure he's one guy, but he may be speaking for a collective. He may feel the uncle, dad and even MDT are vital parts of his "rat king".

As for the TRV57/67 manual ID, based on the copyright on this edition of the manual (http://www.manualowl.com/m/Sony/CCD-TRV57/Manual/2322?page=26) we can date the blonde girl's murder to 1999 or later (assuming he had to consult the manual because it was a new camera). I can't find an older date for that manual, or a release date for the TRV57. To me this is pretty significant, because some of the other cues in the videos (like the shite quality) made it seem like some of this could be Old History (a lot of the material almost looks like 8mm transfers to VHS, which would place the date in the 50s-80s but without rewatching everything right now I'd say that all the videos we've seen so far are contemporary with the abduction and murder of the blonde girl).

I recall (but can't presently find) DNC alluding to "knowing when the series of events began". That would certainly be interesting information, but maybe it's a significant part of the puzzle.

[beastriker]

[elkapo]

DNC video response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjfIr5AkoaQ

Well, it seems that DNC was not very far, but I am unable to determine from where he recorded MDT running past ...

In the new DNC video, the final binary code says "where is my one hundred?", Which in tinyurl returns the image

a mousetrap (to catch mice alive)...

[Gnash]

tinyurl.com/nowiknowwhatulooklike leads to this pic

[beastriker]

DNC also tweeted a pic 8 hours ago:



http://www.tinyurl.com/missingyou

leads to this:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=8&day=12&year=2008&p1=283&p2=235&p3=-1&p4=-1


The dates are in/from San Jose, California (!) and in/to Seoul, South Korea (?)
Maybe related?

[weakandwounded]

I have to say - I didn't picture DNC being a hipster.

[elkapo]

Ok, well, I've been reviewing video of the storages and finally I was able to abstract from the tits of "Tina" , and I noticed that the minute 3:34 MDT gets into box a newspaper, which we saw just pulled. It looks like the Arizona Daily Star for the typography of the logo, though I suppose it is a very common font for these publications, so it could be the "daily star" from another site. In any case, the holder of the cover says "... 7 heroes" and have not managed to understand what it says below ...
I think the newspaper will be a good clue about many things. I keep looking.

Edit:
One of the words in the line below the headline could be "Reagan". This has led me to think that the headline of the article could refer to some tribute to the 7 "heroes" who died in the Challenger accident. But also victims were 7 in the accident of the Columbia in 2003, which reminded me of the point 22 on the list was written on the first paper message DNC: "The Columbia"

I know this does not lead to anything, but hey, I mention it anyway ...