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[VIDEO] Entry #48
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Rorschachian
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Zarggg wrote:
Made my last post after skimming the thread real quickly at the time, but now that I've been able to go back in-depth, I want to address this point:
Rorschachian wrote:
"noentry" was found on his hard drive, and it was hidden there. This is either TTA's doing, or someone else. Regardless, I take it to mean that whoever put it there meant it as a half assed way of saying "Please don't put this on YouTube"

I'm starting to think that it might have been Jay who put it there. He (or Alex) is the most likely person to be able to hide a file on his laptop's hard drive in such a way that he'd be able to recover it later.

I postulate that him putting the video there is also related to him losing his memory, i.e., he does it knowing that he will lose his memory and wanted to leave some kind of breadcrumb to follow after he wakes up.

My thought process for this theory is the same one behind my reasoning for putting the collected tapes in his hotel safe and locking it with Jessica's cell phone number. I still think that Jessica didn't lose her memory, but instead was intentionally being coy and reluctant with Jay about giving him the information he needed to remember everything. I believe that this was due to an agreement the two made prior to the "event."

Another thing to consider: The safe combination was written with the Operator symbol on it. That means it's likely that Alex, Jay, or Tim wrote the actual note. Jay didn't mention it was in his own handwriting, so I think we can exclude him, and I'm pretty damn sure Alex wasn't helping them by this point. That likely means that at some point, Jay gets in contact with Tim (without mask) and they work together. In my opinion, I thought that Tim started getting slightly coherent and attempting to communicate after Alex and Jay took the mask off, but before Alex smashed his leg. I think Tim might actually be on Jay's side, but in a kind of "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, GET OUT" kind of way. Tim (as Masky) doesn't really have time to make Jay understand. He just needs to GET HIM OUT RIGHT NOW, and if that involves scaring and being threatening, so be it.

But again, this is all speculation and gut feeling. I have nothing marble concrete to give you as a basis.


I've been meaning to make a post about Tim and Jay working together when I got home, so thanks for coming before me.
For some reason, I view Tim contacting Jay in the first normal i.e. abnormal TTA video.

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pravado wrote:
people have to realize that it's not necessarily jay whose filming in entry 29

and really? arguing about what side of the tunnel alex is in? does that really matter? you people will argue about anything lol


It could matter. We don't really know what's on the other side of the tunnel or why The Operator showed up. If the noentry = You're not allowed to enter here theory means something, then there could actually be something important on the other side of the tunnel.

Hopefully the next entry gives us some direction as to what's going on. We'll see. :3

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Whoo! First time posting! Alright, goes like this. In noentry, I noticed that there was a bloody chunk of concrete on the ground. Is it the same one that has become Masky's M.O.? It could be indicative of his involvement.

As for the Slendy sighting, there's an easy solution. After the supposed sighting, Jay looks back at the area on the trail, but a bit further down. If you can spot an object that could make that shape, you have your operator imposter. If not, then it was Slendy.

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I hope it's not too late to post and get this noticed, but...

I took a clip from Punxtr's gif on page 14 into photoshop, doubled the image, inverted it, significantly dropped the opacity and lined it up with the double, then auto-colored. I've attached my results.

It looks to me like Slendy, facing away from the camera, with HIS right arm raised... and that bluish discoloration might just be a trick of low image quality while the camera was panning, enhanced by Photoshop, and this is probably a complete bullshit theory considering my OOG assumptions, but it kinda looks like Slendy might be opening/closing a portal or something...

.... hmm. I honestly didn't even see the figure at that part of the video until a few hours ago, but this might be important... Just as I was starting to seriously think it might be Timasky, too!
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Zarggg wrote:

Rorschachian wrote:
"noentry" was found on his hard drive, and it was hidden there. This is either TTA's doing, or someone else. Regardless, I take it to mean that whoever put it there meant it as a half assed way of saying "Please don't put this on YouTube"

I'm starting to think that it might have been Jay who put it there. He (or Alex) is the most likely person to be able to hide a file on his laptop's hard drive in such a way that he'd be able to recover it later.


You haven't exactly persuaded me, but you have made my thoughts differ on the matter.
My observations were based on the fact that it said "entry" and that doesn't really help, seeing as the two schools of thought are still there:
Jay constantly uses the word "entry" to describe the...entries, so he calls it "noentry"
or,
whoever else put it there called it that to grab Jay's attention.
So, what I say doesn't go one way or the other to who put it there, so my theory is somewhat altered after listening to you.
What if "noentry" was a breadcrumb?

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Themagikarpevolution wrote:
Maybe if we can see what colour the camera man is wearing that might shed some light, Cause Alex seems to like colours, and Jay likes brown. It might point us in the right direction or disprove certain people? Or if we could match it to what someone has already worn? :dunno:


All I know in 29 is that the cameraman is wearing long sleeves and that Jay wears a hoody.

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I see no reason to introduce a new tunnel.

Ha ha, yeah: "It turned out I was at the wrong tunnel. There was a second tunnel I knew nothing about."

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Themagikarpevolution wrote:
Maybe if we can see what colour the camera man is wearing that might shed some light, Cause Alex seems to like colours, and Jay likes brown. It might point us in the right direction or disprove certain people? Or if we could match it to what someone has already worn? Dunno

Ready to be flamed!


I posted this pic earlier, but I guess it may have been skipped. The best pic I can get of 29 which shows what the figure might be wearing (either jeans, or the blue T-shirt Alex is wearing in this entry) is:



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Only twenty pages behind? Huzzah.

Not much I can say considering you guys always speculate the fuck outta it before I even get to watch it, man I hate being late.

But one little thing. Around 0:58-1:09, does Alex's walk look a little...funny? I'm unsure whether it's intentional or not, and it's hard to tell from such a distant shot, but to me it could almost be a very crude march. His shoulders are kinda tensed up. What this could mean, it's hard to tell, but could maybe add a little onto the "Alex is being controlled by the Operator" theory.

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BlackRoseInWinter wrote:
Only twenty pages behind? Huzzah.

Not much I can say considering you guys always speculate the fuck outta it before I even get to watch it, man I hate being late.

But one little thing. Around 0:58-1:09, does Alex's walk look a little...funny? I'm unsure whether it's intentional or not, and it's hard to tell from such a distant shot, but to me it could almost be a very crude march. His shoulders are kinda tensed up. What this could mean, it's hard to tell, but could maybe add a little onto the "Alex is being controlled by the Operator" theory.

/throws hat


I'm thinking either that, or else he knows that Jay's following him and is walking like he expects Jay to jump out at him any minute, like he's got his proverbial hackles up. At 5:34 he does look a little surprised to see Jay, but more angry than startled. I don't think that it's very clear either way what he had in mind. Maybe there's a background snow of "FFFFFFFFFFFFF" going on the whole time.

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Jay not seeing whatever it was in the woods is suspicious to say the least.
I think there's clearly something there, something hard to miss in the video, let alone in real life.
Perhaps Slendy isn't necessarily visible to people, maybe only the camera caught it and Jay didn't. In Entry 46 it looks like Alex didn't even notice The Operator was there, and he yells "What are you doing?!" when Jay runs away.

Not sure what to think about the guy with the white shirt, I don't remember any of the MH entries actually having random bystanders in them, as far as I know everyone has been a character, apart from when Alex is sitting on the bench. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

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I'm not sure if this has been said.. but I don't think it has..


Right after Jay turns around from the noise in the woods (~4:2Cool I swear I see a person running to the right at the very end of that path.


Anyone else?

I think it's very noticeable if you're looking in the right spot.

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Latent wrote:
Rowsdower,

The concrete in the image from outside the tunnel tapers off precisely as the image from inside the tunnel. If you look at the taper from the inside, they appear to be smooth, not ribbed like the metal wall of the tunnel. There is some indication of rocks in the image from inside the tunnel, however, we can see that the rocks would be obscured by the vegetation from the shot of outside the tunnel.

I see no reason to think that these are different tunnels or different sides of the same tunnel. Though, i wont rule put the possibility of it being the other end, I just dont think this is the case.

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As for the foliage, this may be a case of the shots being taken at different times of the year. The foliage in 29 appears much more brown, like an early fall color, while in 48 it seems to be midsummer. this could be an OOG thing.


Upon closer inspection, you're right. The ends are not ribbed in 29. In fact, I even see a tree that could very well be Jay's tree. So I'm thinking it's the same side (Mostly because I really like the theory that noentry refers to not being able to pass through the tunnel).

killerkittycat wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been said.. but I don't think it has..


Right after Jay turns around from the noise in the woods (~4:2Cool I swear I see a person running to the right at the very end of that path.


Anyone else?

I think it's very noticeable if you're looking in the right spot.


I think I see it. Right around 4:28, near the end of the path. I've added screencaps for reference (Check the red circles). Whatever that is seems to dart away pretty quickly, perhaps it's The Operator? Although if it was, it wouldn't make sense as to why he immediately reappears looking away from Jay. So it's probably Masky or Hoody.
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Rorschachian wrote:


I've been meaning to make a post about Tim and Jay working together when I got home, so thanks for coming before me.
For some reason, I view Tim contacting Jay in the first normal i.e. abnormal TTA video.


It's worth nothing, too, that in Entry #35, when Jay peeks around the corner and TiMasky pops out with a knife, he seems to purposefully shove past Jay, not interested in harming him, and go right for Alex.

That makes Alex seem kind of threatening/malevolent, like Tim was trying to protect Jay. That's just the vibe I got, it could be the opposite, with Tim being a bad guy and Jay just being in league with him.

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Wouldn't be surprised to find out that Alex is carrying THAT tape in his satchel/bag to prevent it being taken from Jay. The tape that Jay tried to take in #46 and that Alex essentially dangled in front of Jay's face in #47. Something super-crucial must be on it.
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Rowsdower wrote:
Latent wrote:
Rowsdower,

The concrete in the image from outside the tunnel tapers off precisely as the image from inside the tunnel. If you look at the taper from the inside, they appear to be smooth, not ribbed like the metal wall of the tunnel. There is some indication of rocks in the image from inside the tunnel, however, we can see that the rocks would be obscured by the vegetation from the shot of outside the tunnel.

I see no reason to think that these are different tunnels or different sides of the same tunnel. Though, i wont rule put the possibility of it being the other end, I just dont think this is the case.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
As for the foliage, this may be a case of the shots being taken at different times of the year. The foliage in 29 appears much more brown, like an early fall color, while in 48 it seems to be midsummer. this could be an OOG thing.


Upon closer inspection, you're right. The ends are not ribbed in 29. In fact, I even see a tree that could very well be Jay's tree. So I'm thinking it's the same side (Mostly because I really like the theory that noentry refers to not being able to pass through the tunnel).

killerkittycat wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been said.. but I don't think it has..


Right after Jay turns around from the noise in the woods (~4:2Cool I swear I see a person running to the right at the very end of that path.


Anyone else?

I think it's very noticeable if you're looking in the right spot.


I think I see it. Right around 4:28, near the end of the path. I've added screencaps for reference (Check the red circles). Whatever that is seems to dart away pretty quickly, perhaps it's The Operator? Although if it was, it wouldn't make sense as to why he immediately reappears looking away from Jay. So it's probably Masky or Hoody.


moves too slow to be a person, kind of creeps like slendy but slendy is directly to jays left when he pans backwards. i think it's just part of the leaf

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