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[jenni42ld]

Two murders?

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Re: Two murders?

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[jenni42ld]

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[AmadeoImpersonator]

Hi all, quick question: Is it just me, or are there two rocks with blood on them in entry 29? Laying right next to each other?

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[HunterEris]

Just a few things going through my head after reading the last few posts here and then going back to watch #29 and #49 again.

About #29
The person filming the sequence in the tunnel was wearing a watch, not Alex's chain thing, on the wrist holding the camera. This can be seen at the right side of the screen when he turns keep an eye on the blood pool as he enters the tunnel (About 0:34-0:35). This leads me to think that it's Jay not Alex.
The cameraman also seems to be seeing this for the first time, another reason for it to be Jay not Alex.
Time-wise, my guess is the night of #49.

About #49
Shirt colours here have Alex in blue and the dead guy in white. What really bothers me is that when the Operator shows up and takes the body away, we clearly see the rock on its own, without the shirt beside it that Jay found in #29. The shirt he found was the dead guy's, since it was white.
It should be noted that we can't see if Alex is wearing a shirt while driving, though he clearly is when he leaves.

Things to be cleared up
Who is the dead guy? I honestly think he could be just some passer-by, but he could also possibly be in a similar position to Alex. He asks "Hey man, you ok? Need any help?" then when Alex says "I told you not to follow me" he seems to start making an excuse before Alex rushes him, but it does sound like he says "Uh... I don't know what you're talking about..." (the static makes this unclear, but it does sound like it to me).
Who films #29? I think the most evidence points to Jay, especially since Alex seems to always appear with that chain on his wrist and it isn't there in #29.
Why does the Operator take away the body? Most evidence points towards Alex being his puppet at this point, so the Operator's cleaning up Alex's mess.
The amount of blood? #29 shows far more blood than we see in #29. This leads me to believe that something happens, possibly the return of the body or another death which leads to more blood and the leaving of the white shirt from #29.
How does Jay get the chest-cam if he does film #29? It's possible he stole it from Alex, watched the tape that was in there, saw the murder in the tunnel, then went to film #29.
Who is at the end of #29? I personally think that Jay gets the chest-cam, films #29, then Alex catches up to him at the tunnel. It was noted around the time of #35's upload that when Alex enters the shack and Jay turns to look at him, he stands a lot like the Operator as well as the figure from #29. So I'm betting it's Alex with the heightened emotions screwing up the camera (much like what happened in #35).
Timing? In #47, it's revealed that these events are about 3 months after #26, so we still have a few more Entries before we find out what happened to Jay's memory. My guess is another 7 or 8, but that is just guess-work.

I hope all of this has been reasonable and clear. It should be noted that I've read none of the thread pretty much, so this may have all been mentioned before.

[Spakken]

Off-hand weird theory that's probably wrong: If we're going with the Split Personality Alex, what's to say that the missing memories aren't Split Personality Jay? We've been thinking about memory wipe the whole time, but, as a somebody who actually has been diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder, memory blanks are the very first sign. Also, sleepwalking and pseudo-catatonic states are not uncommon of people who are developing DID, due to the way the trauma is trying to manifest itself as physical action. When I was diagnosed with the disorder, I was informed that the other personality actually answered to my name, wrote in my handwriting, and generally acted like me, but had some extremely different tendencies in decision making (he was suicidal, it was a weird time when he was first coming out). If those decision-making tendencies and lost time are all it takes for a diagnosis of DID in real life, then the same can be said for the characters of this show.

In season one we wittnessed the following symptoms of Slendy Sickness:

• Catatonic states, specifically in the Alex's bloody head moment.
  
• Memory Loss (clearly evident throughout the series).
  
• Seizures (general brain trauma, anyone?)
  
• Sleepwalking (Jay's teleportation in his apartment)
  
• Varying bouts of Insomnia and general decline in physical health that is commonly linked to Insomnia (although that decline in health was so general, it could be linked to anything).
  
• The ever-loved erratic behavior that we've seen all over the place.

In theory, everything related to Slendy Sickness is also related to DID. Tim takes on a full other persona that wears a costume, even, which is something that most Alters (Alternate Personalities) need in order to keep themselves separate. We can say this about every prominent character of this series (save perhaps Jessica, but we honestly still don't know too much about her) and things would still fall into place pretty neatly. It also explain's Alex's confession during the Season 1 basement investigation video. Alex black out, Other Alex takes control, Friends leave from whatever reasons, Alex transitions again thinking that it's only been a moment, but everybody's either dead or gone.

I now invite holes to be poked at this theory, and if it doesn't look like swiss cheese by the end of it, then I'm going to cling to it until damning evidence is provided.

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Re: 38

[louigi32]

For a second I thought that Alex must have mistaken the man for Jay, (e.g. "I TOLD YOU NOT TO FOLLOW ME!"), but that can't be right because there's no way he could not have realized it was J after he took all that time to get the rock etc.

But then again, if it was just a random passer-by, why why why does Alex say that? I doubt this guy is a stranger. In my opinion there has to be something significant about him. I could be wrong, as I am fairly new to this series and ARGs in general, but that's just my two cents.

Also, if the operator can control people at will (I dunno whether or not this has been proven already or not) then I say he's most definitely controlling Alex in this entry, much like it is suggested he did Jay. My reasoning for this is that he spent 15 minutes doing nothing...why? And perhaps "I told you not to follow me" is slendy speaking through Alex....I don't know.