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(OT) The Operator vs Slenderman
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 		That's not what she is saying. I don't know how else to put it, because she did it well enough already.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:00 pm
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tijde wrote:
As I see it, arguing about whether The Operator is Slenderman is like arguing about whether Dracula is Vampire. The key is in the article: 'a' vs. 'the'. The Operator is a slenderman.


This is my opinion on the matter, summed up nicely in a ninja comment.

And it doesn't have to imply that there are a "Race" of Slendermen either as that would, by definition, imply that all of this is happening in the same universe...which it isn't.

I think of it as alternate dimensions, each one having its own Slenderman. Much in the same way multiverse theories posit that there may be other universes with other "You"'s in them, only with slight differences, perhaps going by other names.

They're still "You", but they're not "You" at the same time.

The Operator is still a Slenderman, but he's not The Slenderman; I would argue that there is no The Slenderman.

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 		To me "The Slenderman" is the "meme" + The creation of VictorSurge from the SomethingAwfull thead => So the entity as we know it in "our world".

The Operator is the antagonist from Marble Hornets based on said meme.

(I'm sorry if anyone is offended by me calling Slenderman a meme Razz)

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 		Exactly, UFN. It's a matter of alternate universes, and as such, each creator defines their slenderman, drawing from and adding to a general set of traits.

So to stop me, I shot mys wrote:
tijde wrote:
As I see it, arguing about whether The Operator is Slenderman is like arguing about whether Dracula is Vampire. The key is in the article: 'a' vs. 'the'. The Operator is a slenderman. He's not a different kind of monster; he's a specific character within a larger monster mythos.


If your saying that there is a 'race' of Slendermen and The Operator is just one of them I don't really like that idea. I prefer to think that all these blogs are being terrorized by the same entity, which is much creepier imo. Except from Marble Hornets and TTA, which I think works better in a stand-alone universe, where the other blogs don't exist.

I think you're kind of arguing my point a bit here, depending on which blogs you mean. I don't like the idea of more than one slenderman per universe. That's like having just one zombie.

Here's an example (and big TJA/502 fans please note, I'm just using this as an example. I'm not saying This Is Fact): TJ & Amy Projects and 5zer02 are two different stories that are closely related. The characters could share the same universe and thus, are dealing with the same slenderman--the Slenderman specific to their universe. So maybe that Slenderman can be in two different places simultaneously and have slightly varying traits, depending on which story you're watching. It's one Slenderman with different 'masks'. But I can't see their Slendy as being the same Slendy in, say, I Like Trees, which seems to be in its own universe entirely.

Things get a little muddled when universes start to slide together. For instance, maybe TT & EMH are in the same universe, or maybe their universes just overlap at certain points. The creators have to work that out. As a fan, I don't have to know for sure; I can choose whichever is scariest to me. But if Slendy is always the same Slendy with different appearances, things will get complicated when someone makes the Twilight of Slendyblogs.

My main point still stands: The Operator is both a Slenderman and his own character.
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 		This topic reminds me of when a company buys a stadium or building and the company that owns it of course wants everyone to call it by it's new name, but for the most part people are annoyed at the notion of calling it something different, like Sears Tower and Willis Tower.

Sure, it may technically be Willis Tower by right, but it certainly is not by identity. It is Sears Tower and will always be Sears Tower.

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 		For the record this is not what I intended this to be about.

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AngryDeepground wrote:
For the record this is not what I intended this to be about.
Of course not, but you started off with saying "At this point we can all agree that The Operator is not Slenderman..." If you started out with something that people actually agreed on such as "What differentiates The Operator from other interpretations of Slenderman," odds are there would be nothing to argue about... at least I hope not.

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 		I much prefer "The Slender Man" to "The Operator."

I don't know if it's me, but I find that when he used to be referred to by viewers of MH as The Slender Man, I thought the whole thing was much more terrifying.

Think about it, it's one of those things you have to process to figure it out.

Roll the term "The Slender Man" around in your head a few times. For whatever reason, doing this greatly unsettles me. I don't get that from The Operator. Anyone else?

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 		No clue why, but "Der Ritter" scares me more.
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mycowlikesmilk wrote:
I much prefer "The Slender Man" to "The Operator."

I don't know if it's me, but I find that when he used to be referred to by viewers of MH as The Slender Man, I thought the whole thing was much more terrifying.

Think about it, it's one of those things you have to process to figure it out.

Roll the term "The Slender Man" around in your head a few times. For whatever reason, doing this greatly unsettles me. I don't get that from The Operator. Anyone else?



If this thread where about the scariest name you would be spot on. But it's more about the differences between the Slender man and the Operator.

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Randoman96 wrote:
No clue why, but "Der Ritter" scares me more.


Because it's German, and German folklore can be scary as all hell. Shocked
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AngryDeepground wrote:



If this thread where about the scariest name you would be spot on. But it's more about the differences between the Slender man and the Operator.


That there would be a difference Wink

Slenderman is much scarier than The Operator.

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 		So uh, to actually be on topic for second...

Slender Man was established early on on Something Awful to have been Der Ritter in Germany in the 1500s. Depending on your interpretation of Alex's story, The Operator may have only existed since the 1800s. (This is actually one of the utilities of calling him a different name. People cannot use the original Something Awful thread as evidence for a different interpretation of Alex's story, because that thread is irrelevant to The Operator.)

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 		Good point

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Randoman96 wrote:
No clue why, but "Der Ritter" scares me more.


Nitpick: In the original 'der Ritter' woodcut, 'Der Ritter' did not refer to Slendy, it referred to the knight fighting him. Since 'Der Ritter' is german for 'The Knight' and it was actually a real woodcut before it got photoshopped. The Correct German name is Der Grossman(sometimes with that funny B thing I can't do) which means 'The Tall Man'.

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