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[Trailhead] Veil Nanoscience Inc.
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Thermal Boners
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Korinthian wrote:
Been at work, so I haven't had time to participate more than email Theresa, but I highly appreciate your compilation, Thermal.

I'm going to write Theresa back now, as well as the other emails we've come across. As far as the login, or the rywter/30ryw5ter, I'll run some basic deciphering on it here in a few minutes and come back with any news that I might obtain.


Glad to do it. This is the first legitimate ARG I've participated in, I lurked Cloverfield and I'm somewhat active in Marble Hornets which is barely an ARG, but I've been trying to get in on the ground floor of one of these for some time now. Everyone feel free to yell at me if I go overboard or anything. I'm scouring Veil's website now and I'll post a summary here when I'm done, then I'm gonna fire off emails to those addresses and start to google those names. Results pending in an hour tops.

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On a side note - we may want to take care who exactly we email. I was looking over the known email addresses, and the persons of interest, and although I feel like an ARG of this magnitude leaves nothing to chance, it may very well end up being that we contact someone outside of the game.

Provided, of course, that it is a game (cue eerie music in the background).

I also think we should keep a pastebin or something of the sort for all the information we discover. Possibly even an IRC chat so that whoever is participating has a place to brainstorm without spamming up the topic. If that sounds like something people would like, I could make that happen.

EDIT: So, couple things I've come across.

-RYWTER does not turn into anything comprehensible after cycling through all 25 Caesarian rotations. The closest intelligible decryptions are "bigdob" and "nuspan".
-Throwing in the 30 and 5 obviously does nothing, nor does it help if you convert it to E, O, and S. The same follow, being "eobigcdob" or "aknusopan". I think that's a dead end as far as the letters and numbers go.
-Emailed Theresa back, and I emailed infoSPLATveilnanoscience.com. Was thinking the info email would be an instant response, but so far it isn't.

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Summary of http://www.veilnanoscience.com/

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Entering the address leads to a a countdown clock, which appears to indicate the start date of Project Mnemosyne, currently reading 22 days and 42 minutes as I start this post. Underneath is a link to "Enter Veil Nanoscience Inc." which leads to http://www.veilnanoscience.net/ oddly enough as opposed to an index page for the .com. Four links run across the top, Home, Projects, Contact and Jobs. Directly under these four links is a hyperlinked sentence leading you to the application to be a test subject in Project Mnemosyne. The information on the home page is identical to the information on the back of the packet received by Korinthian, specifically the company's mission, the bio of Dr. Veil and the company's history. The Projects link is identical to the timeline also found on the back of the packet. The Contact link yields another email address separate from Theresa Markovich's. infoSPLATveilnanoscience.com. Odd to me that the email addresses are for the .com, but the site is on the .net. The Jobs page, however, is pretty interesting. The first two of three links on the page lead to all of the pages received by Korinthian. HOWEVER, the emboldened and italicized letters are gone, and the safety concerns page is intact. It reads:

At Veil Nanoscience, your safety is our number one concern and we insure the safety of all
recruits during the testing process. However, unknown side-effects are always a part of an
experimental program. We have been fully certified by the United States Government and
the State of California. Accepting this opportunity will automatically waive any right that
you or your family may have to bring a lawsuit against us. If you have any other concerns
about the safety of these experiments please contact our volunteer director, Theresa
Markovich at t.markovichSPLATveilnanoscience.com

Pretty odd that this would be blurred out as there is very little relevant information, but the big find here is that the emboldened and italicized letters are gone, which means that this particular info (rywter and 30ryw5ter) would only have been received by those who got the packet.

The third link on the page leads to the same application that is on the front page. Pretty sure this is going to be required for anyone who wants to actively participate in the ARG, so if you don't have time to fire off emails, at least fill out the application so that you can receive further communications.


That's it for the Veil website as far as I can tell, I'm very surprised by the lack of substance here. Everyone else feel free to take a look and make sure I didn't miss anything. Also, I don't have much of an ARG background so stuff like whois and page sources and stuff, I'm not very familiar. I know how to pull up a page source, but haven't a clue what I'd be looking for in there. So, full disclosure, I haven't looked into any of those things. I think that covers everything that's in front of our faces, I'm gonna email and research those POI's now. I'll let you all know if I find anything.

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Korinthian wrote:
On a side note - we may want to take care who exactly we email. I was looking over the known email addresses, and the persons of interest, and although I feel like an ARG of this magnitude leaves nothing to chance, it may very well end up being that we contact someone outside of the game.

Provided, of course, that it is a game (cue eerie music in the background).

I also think we should keep a pastebin or something of the sort for all the information we discover. Possibly even an IRC chat so that whoever is participating has a place to brainstorm without spamming up the topic. If that sounds like something people would like, I could make that happen.


I was planning on doing something to that effect on here, i.e. one of the POI's Tim Mayhall, brings up a twitter @TimMayhall that is most decidedly OOG. Potentially we could do a wiki or something, I'm not entirely sure what pastebin is but maybe this is something you could take the lead on, because yeah, I definitely see the potential for that occuring.

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Thermal Boners wrote:

I was planning on doing something to that effect on here, i.e. one of the POI's Tim Mayhall, brings up a twitter @TimMayhall that is most decidedly OOG. Potentially we could do a wiki or something, I'm not entirely sure what pastebin is but maybe this is something you could take the lead on, because yeah, I definitely see the potential for that occuring.


Pastebin would be a poor man's version of Wiki, essentially. Wiki could be more comprehensible. Yay/nay on the IRC?

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Korinthian wrote:
Thermal Boners wrote:

I was planning on doing something to that effect on here, i.e. one of the POI's Tim Mayhall, brings up a twitter @TimMayhall that is most decidedly OOG. Potentially we could do a wiki or something, I'm not entirely sure what pastebin is but maybe this is something you could take the lead on, because yeah, I definitely see the potential for that occuring.


Pastebin would be a poor man's version of Wiki, essentially. Wiki could be more comprehensible. Yay/nay on the IRC?


I don't have an IRC client, but potentially as this moves forward if it picks up and people would be using the IRC, I'd jump into that.

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I've skimmed through this thread and hopefully it is an ARG because they way they've started it seems very transmedia already, which is exciting. I'm a huge thumbs up for IRC/chat (whether its on a channel or through msn etc)
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Anyone remember Rookery Tower?


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Alright, I just googled the name of every POI so far, and found zero things that could be considered IG, save for the websites we have already discovered. This means two things, first off, nobody contact any of the people that show up in the google results for those names, they are real people and very OOG, some have a twitter, a couple even have their own webpages, but they are decidedly OOG. Second, that means that as far as I can tell, what we've got so far is what we've got. E-mail those addresses and we'll see what we can find. I just hope that countdown clock doesn't mean that's when the ARG starts, that would suck.

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Yea, definitely glad we covered that. I'd hate to see the response from one of those OOG people when they see an email regarding neuroimplants.

And let there be chat!

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
irc.rizon.net
#Nanoveil


EDIT: Still no response from Theresa or infoSPLATveilnanoscience.com. It's 8:00pm PST, so I'm sure they're "out of the office". Hopefully I'll get a response tomorrow. For now, I think we're at somewhat of a standstill. I haven't been able to decipher any bit of the rwyter, with or without the added numbers.

EDIT 2: Upon reading your summary, Thermal, I wanted to clarify that 1) the final pages of the upload are indeed the black folder in which the packet came in, and 2) the "RWYTER" written in blue ink was me doodling on the envelope when I was first reading it, and realized the letters that stood out. Just to clarify.

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Re: [Trailhead] Veil Nanoscience Inc.
Whois for Veilnanoscience.com

Korinthian wrote:
I received an 8.5/11" black envelope yesterday from a corporation called Veil Nanoscience Inc. - it was addressed to no one by name, and only had my shipping address listed on the front, and a postage sticker in the top-right corner.

Now, initially, I thought it was some kind of school or medical company offering me a position in their program (seeing as how I'm a declared Pre-med student) or asking me to come visit their school. Well, I was wrong, to a certain extent.

Inside the envelope was a very professional, pristine brochure folder of the same size, with the same logo and company name on the front. The contents of the folder is a packet about 12 pages long, explaining who the company was and the program they were running.

Instead of typing it all up for you guys, I figured I'd just scan everything and upload it. Enjoy. See what you can make of it.

Envelope & Packet Contents

Now, I emailed Theresa Markovich (her email is listed on the last page) and asked for any other information she had - I also inquired as to why the Safety Concerns page was all washed out and etc.

Here is our correspondence thus far:

Correspondence wrote:
Me wrote:
Dear Ms. Markovich,

Just today (9/12/11) I received an information packet detailing the company you work for (Veil Nanoscience Inc.) regarding your Project Mnemosyne. After reading through the packet rather thoroughly, it's certainly piqued my interest concerning the topic, and I was simply writing to inquire about any other information you might have regarding the project that wasn't already covered in the packet that might aid me in my decision as to whether or not I shall participate. Also, interestingly enough, your "Safety Concerns" page 7 (although oddly, it is labeled page 5, though it comes after page 6) of the packet is washed out, and unintelligible. I was only able to make out a few lines of text through the distortion.

I look forward to your response.

Regards,

Damian Rivers


Theresa wrote:
Damian,

I'm glad I caught this, I was just heading out of the office for the day.

We've been doing a lot to fix the mistake in the materials we sent out. We apologize for the inconvenience. You can find a PDF of the materials on our website under the Jobs heading.

We're extremely excited to get the process for Project Mnemosyne underway. This is actually Phase Two of a much grander vision to bring memory implants to the public. During our first phase, Project-77, testing was done strictly on chimpanzees, as well as a few other mammals.

The chimp testing was a resounding success.

We are accepting applications until October 5th. Between now and then, more materials will be made public. We urge you to apply as early as possible. The application can be found on our website at www.veilnanoscience.com under the Jobs page.

Again, I apologize for the mix-up in the materials.

- Theresa Markovich

Volunteer Director
Veil Nanoscience


Theresa wrote:
Damian,

Upon further inquiring once I got into the office today, it actually seems like it wasn't just your materials that got mixed up. It seems that ALL of them got mixed up. This was done by hand, which actually makes it even harder to believe. As of now, we assume it was a prank or inside joke of some sort by someone in the HR office. I'm sure the HR Director will talk to the employees over there today.

Again, sorry for any confusion.

I'd also like to point out to you that filling out the application will have more information sent to you over the next few weeks.

Thank you, have a great day.

- Theresa


I've not written her back yet. Also, upon investigation of the website, I came across this information:

Info wrote:

-Whois information is protected / private, but there's a location.
-C/O VEILNANOSCIENCE.NET
-Bellevue, WA 98007
-US
-Veil Nanoscience.com is a GoDaddy account.
-2401 Project Park
-San Francisco, California 90013
-United States
-http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=veilnanoscience.com&prog_id=GoDaddy
-alecveilSPLATveilnanoscience.com
-http://www.presidioinstitute.net/history.html
-"In the 1990's, the school became famous for it's Neural Engineering program. Dr. Alec Veil, now the CEO of Veil Nanoscience, and Dr. Macolm Willard, the current director of the program, led the way as the program surpassed giant universities due to grit and determination. "
-The PresidioInstitute website is also a GoDaddy account.
-http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?Domain=PRESIDIOINSTITUTE.NET



And finally, on every page (or close to it) there is a letter that is italicized and bold-faced. The letters are "RYWTER". Anyone else receive this packet? Or hear of anything like this?



I was poking around and checked the whois for veilnanoscience.com:
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Registrant:
Veil Nanoscience
2401 Project Park
San Francisco, California 90013
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: VEILNANOSCIENCE.COM
Created on: 07-Aug-10
Expires on: 07-Aug-12
Last Updated on: 09-Jun-11

Administrative Contact:
Veil, Alec alecveilSPLATveilnanoscience.com
Veil Nanoscience
2401 Project Park
San Francisco, California 90013
United States
+1.8005532222 Fax --

Technical Contact:
Veil, Alec alecveilSPLATveilnanoscience.com
Veil Nanoscience
2401 Project Park
San Francisco, California 90013
United States
+1.8005532222 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.DREAMHOST.COM
NS2.DREAMHOST.COM


I searched the phone number and got some weird responses from Google. Anyone else find anything? Also, this domain's been registered for over a year...


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As far as the Presidio Institute goes, I think it's safe to assume it's also part of the IG world, considering it's registered through Go Daddy, as is Veil Nanoscience. I'm assuming the jumbled letters/numbers could be a password, but a username would still be required in order to login to their website. Any ideas?

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Korinthian wrote:
As far as the Presidio Institute goes, I think it's safe to assume it's also part of the IG world, considering it's registered through Go Daddy, as is Veil Nanoscience. I'm assuming the jumbled letters/numbers could be a password, but a username would still be required in order to login to their website. Any ideas?


I was just about to post in that ilk. I was looking at the page source. I don't know a whole lot about this kinda thing, but I know a little, and from what I can tell, there isn't a user name or password that will grant us access, it's just to look good. Here is the part of the page source I am referring to.

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<br>
<p>PITPortal ID</p><br><br>
<p><input></p>
<p>Student Password</p><br>
<br>
<p><input></p>


From what I know about html, anything entered into those fields will return the PITPortal ID Not Found window. Does someone with a little more knowledge in this regard wanna double check that for me? If it's true, it could either mean it's just to look good, or we don't have that information yet, and once the PM makes it available, he will edit that page so it works as a log in.

EDIT: Since these posts allow html, that didn't work. Just go take a peek at the page source for the Student Login page.

EDIT EDIT: posting again and disabling html for that post so you can see what I mean. forgive the double post but it makes sense here.

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<br/>
<p>PITPortal ID</p><br/><br/>
<p><input type="password" name="pass" align="center"></p>
<p>Student Password</p><br/>
<br/>
<p><input type="submit" name="submit" onClick="alert('PITPortal ID Not Found');return false" value="Submit"></p>

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I think you're on to something - every attempt I've made comes back with "PITPortal ID Not Found", and with that basic of a code, I imagine you're spot on with your assumption. Not that I know HTML any better than you, but it would seem like the informed, educational guess to make.

Beyond email correspondences and applying for the Project, I don't think there's much else to figure out. Chat is up for anyone that is interested. I'll list the information again:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

irc.rizon.net
#Nanoveil


EDIT: Found a Veil Nanoscience Facebook page.

Veil Nanoscience Inc. Facebook Page

Trying to see if they have a Twitter.

EDIT 2: Google'd their Twitter. Seems to have existed at one point, but no longer.

Google Search: Veil Nanoscience Twitter

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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Veil-Nanoscience-Inc/129660007080242


Interesting. Note the join date. Same (or close to) when the site was registered, a.k.a. over a year ago.

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