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[Trailhead] Veil Nanoscience Inc.
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Korinthian
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Just got my response, and personally, I think it's good enough for me.

Theresa wrote:
I started in 2005. This company is very rigid, and very strict. I'm the volunteer manager, and that's it. I don't roam outside of my position, and others don't roam into mine. I didn't start as the volunteer manager, but I worked my way up to it when the position was created in 2008 in preparation of some sort of human trials, which became known as Project Mnemosyne.

From everything I know, from everything I see and hear at this office, I assure you, I believed Project-77 to be strictly a test on animals. I wasn't hiding anything in that regard.

I'm at a loss of what to tell you because I believe you know MORE than I do. About the chips, yes, they are a silver/metallic magnetically shielded housing with a "77" inscription. They are carried in some sort of black, temperature controlled case.

There is one thing that you may not know. When I first started, it was about a week before Dr. Veil came back from his long time away from the company to deal with the death of his wife and the hospitalization of his daughter. No one heard from him during that time. Talking to some of the other employees, they said that the company was a in a downward spiral. People were losing jobs left and right. They were bleeding cash.

Miller and Bradenburg went to visit Dr. Veil. They were "best friends" from everything I had heard. The company really put all three of them in the spotlight. They were a triumvirate of success, they had us believing.

So, when Dr. Veil came back, I knew he would be shaken. I can't imagine losing someone you loved. But he wasn't sad, he wasn'y upset. Miller, Bradenburg...they weren't comforting. They were dead. Just blank stares the entire meeting. Something happened to them after that accident, after they went to visit him.

As far as Alec's daughter, I realize you probably know most of this now because of Bill's blog. But yes, the accident was horrible. His wife was killed instantly. His daughter, well, she suffered. All of her memory from before the crash was gone. Could you imagine? Not even knowing your own father? And the impact that had on Dr. Veil couldn't have been good.

She went to a rehabilitation hospital. The Bay Area Recovery Center. That's the last thing I heard about her.


I'm going to go ahead and fill her in on the packet. What harm could it cause? Cory's already missing. I'm not telling her I got it from Leslie, I'm saying it came to me anonymously.

I laid it all out for her. Waiting to see if she responds at all.

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Zobot257
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Yeah. I got that response too. Good job, Korinthian!

Go ahead and fill her in, not that you need my blessing. Smile

I want to trust Theresa. I'm gonna email her letting her know you're giving her the scoop, and telling her to fill us in if she sees anything.

Worst case, we've tipped our hand. So what? We have more surprises up our sleeves. Anyways, here's what Joseph's been telling me:

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J Silva to me

show details 11:57 AM (53 minutes ago)

I was curious if your article was ever finished? Or should I assume you were just prying me for information?


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Me to J Silva

I don't lie, sir.

While I will admit that my article was somewhat motivated by an investigation I am involved in, that motivation was one that overlaps with my current occupation as a part-time journalist. And I am happy to announce that my article is complete and I'm forwarding it to my publisher tomorrow. I'll send you a copy then, I promise.

The investigation, as I have said, is motivated at least in part by self-interest: I agreed to be a test subject for Veil Nanotechnologies before I started learning of a lot of things that they have been doing that are very unethical. This is not something that will be appearing in the article. I have no interest in slinging mud around within this industry. But I also am not comfortable with someone messing around with my head, and I really am starting to regret ever agreeing to be a test subject in the first place. Whatever lapse of sanity provoked me into it...

I have been doing research into Alec Veil and his former position in CBALtech, but I've already given up learning more about that. I recognize it is a touchy subject and your right to privacy and I will not pry further, though I am curious, especially about the research Alec Veil left behind.

But I'm straying and rambling. I do that when I'm tired. My apologies. You will have your article tomorrow evening, sometime before 5 Pm central time, and it should be in print sometime next month.


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show details 12:10 PM (41 minutes ago)

The research he left behind? And by what means do you know about Dr. Veil's research at CBALtech?


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Me to J Silva

Mysteriously manipulative means. Means which make me think I'm being played. But regardless of whether manipulation is what is going on here or not, my role is clear, and I must play it for the sake of myself and others.

If you'll believe me, sir, and I understand this sounds CRAZY, I really do, but several of my friends have been contacted by a group known as IRIS: Information Retrieval and Infiltration Services.

This communication has been all one-way, with IRIS leaving information regarding Veil Nanotechnologies and circumstances surrounding Alec Veil in places where we would find it, or information being sent directly to us. I don't know WHY they've contacted us, but I have reason to believe they were responsible for giving out information from your Global Archiving Account as well, which you mentioned to me earlier.

I realize this is a lot to swallow. But you'll find, attached to this email, a picture with evidence of my assertion on it: The package which gave us information of a rather personal sort regarding Alec's time at CBALtech.

And here's some more: Inside the packet were these 12 letters, which I'm sure you'll recognize if you look at them. I am providing a link here for you to download these letters. Pleeeeease don't be mad. We didn't know whose letters these were before we read them, and we didn't mean to pry. Someone else took them and gave them to us.

I understand if you're angry. You have a right to be. But please consider that I am being entirely straightforward and honest with you here. I'm telling you everything and showing you every possible respect. And I don't lie: I am a journalist, I do write all the time, and apparently now I also solve mysteries. That last bit is news to me, but there's a first time for everything.

You don't have to tell me anything more. I understand this is a very bad subject for you, and I respect you too much to stick my nose into your affairs. But if you NEED to talk to someone, I'm a good listener and if you're WILLING to share with me more information about Alec Veil, I would be in your debt.

Sincerely,

Zobot


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Korinthian
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Nicely done, Zobot! I'm interested to see how Joseph replies, and whether or not I'll get an email from Alice after all this - she tends to email me when something involving CBALtech/her husband happens.

Still waiting on Theresa..

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Zobot257
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Thanks, Korinthian! I just like talking to people in these games, really. It's a lot of fun.

One last update before I go to work: The last of my communications between myself and Theresa:

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Me to Theresa:

Thank you.

Thank you thank you thank you!

Listen, Korinthian is going to give you the scoop on what we've found so far. He found the packet so he's the one who knows the most about it.

I'm at work so I can't give this my FULL attention, but if you hear anything or if something strange happens, please let us know, ok? And please please PLEASE stay safe, ok? We're working on finding Cody, and helping him and anyone else whose caught up in this, but I don't think I could stand it if anyone else got hurt, ok?


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You're welcome. Thank you for everything, Mr. Zobot. You've been extremely helpful.


Uhh... lolwut?

"You've been extremely helpful." is a kinda weird way to respond back, but if that's the most suspicious she gets, then I still think she's trustworthy.

Anyways, I'll check back here later. Let me know what comes of stuff.

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Korinthian
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Ok, so I basically gave her a synopsis of the packet.

Myself and Theresa wrote:
Theresa wrote:

I can't believe that. I litteraly just...That was happening while I was there, Damian. Oh my god.

I need to find out what happened to Eve. I need to find her. I got Cory into this. I don't know how to help him right now. Right now, I need to find Eve.


Myself wrote:
Yes, if the timeline is correct, then this did indeed happen during your 2nd year of employment. I can understand why that's so painful to discover, Theresa, I really do. But as you said, it was under your nose - it's not as if you facilitated it.

As for Cory, we're all trying - but like you, we're lost on how to help him. We have clues as to where he might be - he might very well be locked up in the Veil building itself, in a sub-basement, or in the same Ward that Eve and Cassandra were kept in, who knows. He might be with IRIS, too, we're not sure.

How do you plan to find Eve?


Theresa wrote:
I don't know. I really don't even know where to begin. But somewhere in this building, there has to be some trace of all of this. No one keeps things that clean.


I gave her some names to look into, some things to search up, and I asked if she wanted what we had on the whole thing (all the emails from DS3, etc).

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jenni42ld
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Hrm on Theresa emails

I have also been emailing with Theresa. I want to believe her but her last email to me had me thinking more suspiciously. She didn't really answer my question and she's asking for more info. Thoughts, guys?

Posting emails from after "I'm the one who told Donald Miller" since mine are the same as everyone's up to that point.

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Me: Cory knew he was taking a risk when he put his name in there. And we wish he hadn't have been caught. But you were doing your job. We are worried about him. But he's got to be there are Veil Nanoscience somewhere. I know there are multiple buildings...do you know much about them?

Theresa: There are a few, yes. The main building, which is where my office is, is pretty huge. It's five stories high but has tons of square footage. There are also two basement levels.

Me: You said you told a Donald Miller about Cory... who is he? What department?

Also, two basement levels? We have reason to believe there may be more...

Has anything else strange been happening around Veil? I am just trying to put this all together, and with Cory gone we don't have eyes and ears in Veil anymore. We are worried. Worried for Eve and worried for Cory, and worried for ourselves, since we agreed to be in the chip 77 experiment. Any light you can shed or even point us towards, if you have heard anything strange, would help.

Theresa: Donald is technically the CFO of the company, however, he has his hand in a lot of other things.

And yes, two levels. What makes you think there are more?

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Zobot257
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Good work, Korinthian!

We might have a new ally in Theresa. Just as long as she keeps safe...

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Korinthian
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Re: Hrm on Theresa emails

jenni42ld wrote:
I have also been emailing with Theresa. I want to believe her but her last email to me had me thinking more suspiciously. She didn't really answer my question and she's asking for more info. Thoughts, guys?

Posting emails from after "I'm the one who told Donald Miller" since mine are the same as everyone's up to that point.

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Me: Cory knew he was taking a risk when he put his name in there. And we wish he hadn't have been caught. But you were doing your job. We are worried about him. But he's got to be there are Veil Nanoscience somewhere. I know there are multiple buildings...do you know much about them?

Theresa: There are a few, yes. The main building, which is where my office is, is pretty huge. It's five stories high but has tons of square footage. There are also two basement levels.

Me: You said you told a Donald Miller about Cory... who is he? What department?

Also, two basement levels? We have reason to believe there may be more...

Has anything else strange been happening around Veil? I am just trying to put this all together, and with Cory gone we don't have eyes and ears in Veil anymore. We are worried. Worried for Eve and worried for Cory, and worried for ourselves, since we agreed to be in the chip 77 experiment. Any light you can shed or even point us towards, if you have heard anything strange, would help.

Theresa: Donald is technically the CFO of the company, however, he has his hand in a lot of other things.

And yes, two levels. What makes you think there are more?


Jenni, send her the picture that specifically has "basement sub level 3" on it, the blueprints, and don't say anything else. I'm beginning to wonder if this is the right thing to do, too. It's starting to feel more and more wrong with each email.

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jenni42ld
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I dunno. I mean some people are sending her files. But what if she is wrong? Or it's not really her? Her last email to me makes me really suspicious. And it's a gmail account, anyone can make one. I am frowning at this.
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RobGilliam
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I've been communicating with her also, not knowing that you guys were at the same time (away from my pc). Here is our conversation:
T: We need to talk.

R: Don't use the office computer for any contact.

T: I won't. I'm on my phone right now. Thank you for the concern.

R: I assume since you contacted me, you know that I am part of the group searching for Mr. Wester and concerned about what else might be happening at Veil. What do you need?

T: I need you to know that I'm on your side. You and the others who have been trying to help find Cory and Eve and help uncover what's going on at my company. You're brave for doing what you've done for complete strangers.

R: Do you have an information that leads you to believe you might know something about Cory or Eve's disappearance? Anything you can give me would go a long way in our ability to trust you.

T: I don't. I don't believe I know anything that you don't already involving them. I'm sorry.

R: That's ok. What is it that we need to talk about? What has prompted you to reach out to us?

T: It's one of those sudden realizations. Last night I stayed up listening to that recording of Dr. Veil and his daughter. Reading the two or three paragraphs that Bill posted from something that mentioned his daughter. It kept me up all night.

I just know that I need to help somehow. This is my company that's behind all of this and I won't stand for it.

R: I understand. That makes you much more brave than any of us.
What we really need is someone that can be a safe set of eyes inside the complex. We don't want you to do ANYTHING reckless or out of your normal range duties while in the office, ok? Keep in contact via your phone and gmail. I will try to keep in contact today, but I may be in some meetings today that keep me from responding.


---Thats it so far. It looks like you guys are on the same path. If she knows now that we are communicating, she may wonder how we are all connected and why. Should we have a name for our "organization" now? So that some one like Theresa can know that we all work together?

BTW: I dont post often in here, but have been along for the ride since the the 14th/15th of last month. You guys are doing great work and its been great to read!

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I got it as well. I was out, so here is what went down:

We need to talk.

- T

ME: I'll be in and out all day, but hit me on email and I'll get back asap

T: It's Theresa from Veil Nanoscience. I'm not sure if we've directly spoken before. But, you must know what's going on.

It's my fault. I gave Cory's name to the company. I told them that it was Cory who put his name in the packet. I didn't know why, I thought it was a prank. I'm sorry for what I did.

I just want you to know, all of you, that I'm on your side.


So there is that. I'll see what else I can get from her, and hope we can put some things to rest for now.

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Ok, feeling a bit better. Not 100% but... I emailed Theresa back on the gmail account asking if she was at work. Then when she said yes, I emailed her work account, in response to the email with the chip 77 pics, asking if we needed to do or bring anything. She replied to the gmail, a second time since I hadn't responded yet from her last one I thought was suspicious, that she had received my email on her work account and was replying there as if nothing was wrong. And she did so. So, not a great verification that it's actually her, but it's something. And not a verification that she's not reporting to someone at all...but yeah.
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I just sent her an email to her gmail address that went out. Some of it may seem repetitive to what some of you have told her, but I am trying to determine several things from these correspondences. Suffice it to say, I have a lot of experience in this sort of thing.

Here is the email:

"No, we haven't directly spoken before, but yes. I do know what is going on.

Before I can divulge anything, I have to be straight-forward with this: I am not the type to just blindly trust a person. Understanding that, I think we can proceed.

I need to know what you know, even if it is a minute detail that doesn't seem related. CIA involvement, references to MKULTRA and Operation Paperclip, these things aren't to be taken lightly. Having had dealings with the CIA before, I cannot impress how dangerous this could be.

I am going to lay down some ground rules. DO NOT contact anyone in the "group" from your work computer. Heck, I wouldn't even do it from your home computer. Phone may be a bit touchy, but I guess it will have to do. Any contacts made through your work email should remain professional, like the candidate update/info email you sent out not long ago.

We know who you are. You know who we are. I ask that discussions about us not happen with anyone at the workplace or outside of it. I don't even know if they (Veil Nano and/or CIA) knows that our group is in discussion with one another, but in the off chance they don't, let's keep it that way.

No doubt others have given you some of the info that we have been receiving. I just want you to know that, should you prove trustworthy as you say, what we know will be more forthcoming. We just need to know that we can trust you, and not just off blind faith. This has gone past playing with fire.

We need to know what you do. Details. Info. Anything that can help us get to the bottom of all this. Like I said before, the smallest detail could be the key to blowing something wide open."

I intend to pump her for as much info I can get. Hopefully, she plays ball, and is willing to show she is trustworthy. If not, it just adds to the suspicion that she is trying to see what we know and reporting it up, but we'll see.

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nichiera wrote:
I got the same email from Theresa.
I didnt give her any real details but asked her 2 questions:

"Does the name Albert Mansfield have any meaning to you?"

"And what do you know about Basement Sublevel 3 in the Veil Nanoscience building?"


Theresa's Responses:
I've never heard of Albert Mansfield, I'm sorry.

And you must be mistaken, there are only two basement levels in this building.


My response:
What if I told you that I have evidence that proves otherwise?

Theresa:
To be honest, I wouldn't be too surprised. Too much has happened without me knowing to be shocked by anything now.

My response:
Do you know of anything special happening at your building on the night of the 25th?

Theresa:
No i havent heard anything

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trying a different approach

i recieved theresa's email like everyone else but decided to take a different approach from most after receiving her standard reply about cory being her fault.

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theresa, i don't understand what you are talking about. your email worries me a great deal. i signed up for your tests because i believe veil is progressing humanity. but now you email about a cory guy as if he is dead? i don't feel i should be expected to go through with the testing scenarios if people are dying from them. please help me understand what you are talking about before i commit my life into veil's hands.


her reply wasn't really what i expected (not sure what i did expect, though):
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Haven't you been receiving the emails? Something or someone inside Veil is trying to tell us something. I don't think any of us are safe.

findeverandall.blogspot.com

Go to this blog. It should tell you everything you need to know to get caught up.

-T


i want to still play it off like i'm in the dark a bit but i am looking for some advice as i'm new to this type of game.

i'm thinking about approaching it as if i am aware of the emails, blog, packet, etc. but that i assumed it was a disgruntled employee trying to smear the company's good name and see what she says about it. i figure it is worth a shot since it is a different approach from others. i'll let you know how she responds but if anybody would like to help me with this approach i am open to suggestions.

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