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PappyBlueRibs · Boot Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 11

The good book...The Push, Nevada Experiment: 1979-present

**Posted:** Sun Oct 20, 2002 11:26 pm

catherwood

Ok, as many of you know, there's a book on Barnes&Noble, "The Push, Nevada Experiment: Unlocking the Mysteries" by T. S. Griffin
( http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=0FVARXQQ8B&isbn=0786888644 )

Here's a funny thing, though, that B&N shows it being published by Little Brown and Company under this title, while Amazon shows it being published by Hyperion under the other title.

So someone on the Yahoo message board wrote to Hyperion, asking about the book. They received an email in return, telling them that the book has been cancelled and to get their money back from Amazon.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/enochpushdialectic/message/17679

This book has been cancelled. Please contact Amazon for a refund.

Robin Moses
Marketing Coordinator
Hyperion
77 West 66th Street
11th Floor
New York, NY 10023
212-456-0193
212-456-0112 (fax)

**Posted:** Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:39 am

PappyBlueRibs · Boot Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 11

I hadn't ordered the book, thinking that the whole thing was a ruse (as in a trick, dodge, subterfuge, con, scam, hoax, deception, ploy, stunt)...

My question was, why the choice in titles? Why the word "experiment" -- what is the experiment, and who is it run by?

Also, why did they choose 1975, when no dates in the game point to that year? Why not "1984 to present" since that's when Watermark moved into Push? What happened in 1975?

**Posted:** Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:49 pm

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I wouldn't be surprised if they had planned on making the book part of the game.

**Posted:** Mon Oct 21, 2002 5:08 pm

maryag28 · Boot Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 11

The book & T.S. Griffin

**Posted:** Wed Oct 23, 2002 11:41 am

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maryag28 · Boot Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 11

The book & T.S. Griffin

**Posted:** Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:34 pm

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maryag28 · Boot Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 11

The book & T.S. Griffin

**Posted:** Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:37 pm

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Re: The book & T.S. Griffin

**Posted:** Wed Oct 23, 2002 4:50 pm

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"The Push, Nevda Experiment"

**Posted:** Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:49 pm

catherwood

I found the book also listed at books-a-million (listed as an outlet for Hyperion books)

http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/books?id=2354155106128&pid=0786888644

They have the title as "The Push, Nevada Experiment - Unlocking the Mysteries"
by T. Solomon Griffiths
ISBN: 0786888644
Publisher: Hyperion Books
Date: Nov 2002

Yet another bit of disinformation for the collection.

**Posted:** Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:28 pm

Bench2 · Guest

Here it is.

**Posted:** Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:54 pm

Ozy_y2k

The book is apparently a "bible" of sorts (no pun intended) to what was probably intended as the long-term structure of the show, and reveals lots of plot-related information which probably would have become more apparent had the show been allowed to run its intended 13-episode length or longer. It also contains a fair amount of surprisingly internally consistent and accurate sociological and legal analysis.

All in all, it's pretty well written, and reminiscent in certain respects of the TWIN PEAKS "set-pieces", THE SECRET DIARY OF LAURA PALMER and THE FBI TAPES OF DALE COOPER, insofar as it allows another look at the backstory of, and intent behind, the show. Kudos to Keith Quinn, apparently the main author of record, to Sean Bailey for his input, and to "Holden McNeil" (heh) and "Richard Greenleaf" (heh heh) for their pseudonymous input as well. (I shall hereinafter refer to their contributions as the "Good Jim Hunting" portion of the book.)

The big problem as I see it is that there's just SO damn much info crammed in there, it would have been difficult if not impossible to translate all of that into a small-screen visual medium even given the luxury of a serial, 13-to-20-episode story arc. As we suspected all along (SPOILER!!!!!) the real mastermind behind the plot appears to be T.S. Griffin, aka "drooling spoon-fed oatmeal man" from Martha's Boarding House. I also suspect, although I can't yet prove, that Al Prufrock's half of the Watermark "kill code" has somehow been hard-coded directly into his son, perhaps through media-based manipulation of HIS memories, and that if Jimbo ever DOES get his hands on Griffin's Bible he'd know exactly what to do with it. But how the hell would all of this dense exposition been spelled out in the course of a weekly hourlong TV show, especially one as concerned with creating a "mood" as Push, NV was? They would have had to cut down on the artsy-fartsy establishing shots a tremendous amount, and resorted to jam-packed nonstop voiceover just to get some of the ideas contained in the Griffin book across!

Nonetheless, an extremely interesting read. And extra kudos to Keith, Sean, "Holden" and "Dickie" for correctly explaining the Defective Grantor Trust concept. We'll make junior-league lawyers outta you boys yet!!

Ozy

**Posted:** Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:43 am

aliendial

I was so pleased they would even bother to come up with an actual legal analysis to explain what they had done, instead of just making up some bogus "legal" escape valve. As you say, can't imagine how they intended to use or explain something so obscure in the show. Or why they would bother since this stuff even puts real lawyers to sleep. But nice to know they invested in the backstory to try to keep it all together.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:48 am

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brianwaka

Problems with the book.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:58 pm

SpaceBass

Amazon Cancellation Notice

**Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:37 pm

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