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gordogg24p wrote:
redherring wrote:

Clearly the entire series is a PSA for not doing drugs. Razz (Whoever mentioned that in this thread or whatever thread that was mentioned in, please give yourself credit - I honestly don't remember who posted that or when, haha.)


Well I have the single thing that can debunk your entire PSA theory. Slenderman is a victim of Helvetica, a dangerous side-effect reaction of calcium.

Proof: 8:41 of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2k9JwGpm1w

Laughing


I had to unlurk just to applaud that reference. That scared the bejeesus out of me the first time I saw it...

One of the most original shows of the last decade, I reckon.

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Rogue Thoughts
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There should be more spec about the 56-42. I'm surprised at you guys!

Anyway, just wanted to drop a comment at that book. My first thought is that it looks like a journal you could buy at Barnes & Noble, but I'm not going through all those pages looking for it.
The more I think about it, though, the more I get a creepy children's book vibe. Something like The Monster With No Name from the anime/manga Monster.

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In 46, the book is visible, but the camera moves too fast for the title and publishing label to be visible.

In 50, the title is visible, but there is also an AUTHOR'S NAME just next to the title, and the publishing label is now covered up by a plastic piece.

As mentioned in the DVD commentary, in 24, they pushed everything brand-name out of the picture to make sure there was nothing brand-name on screen.

This is a regular book, and is highly doubtful it's anything but cow tools.
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56 - 42

if you switch around the numbers, you have the song "25 or 6 to 4" by the horn-adorned band of the seventies, Chicago.

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Rogue Thoughts wrote:
There should be more spec about the 56-42. I'm surprised at you guys!


Multiples of 7?

If Man is 5, and the Devil is 6, and God is 7, this Bruce has gone to Heaven?

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I'm guessing 56-42 is just some way Jay has of organizing his tapes, though it's hard to tell exactly what the system is. But I doubt it matters.

As for what's on it, any specific description would just be wild speculation. But I will at least say that the tape will likely FEATURE Amy in some sense, perhaps giving us an explanation as to why Alex told Jessica he'd gotten in touch with her.

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Mondai
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As for the label, what was it, 56-42?, I don't think the numbers themselves were anything significant to the plot, at that point. I think someone else already said this (but I can't remember who), but if they're anything, I'm willing to bet they're the safe code for Jay's room back in the hotel. And we have no way of backing that up at this point.

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I personally feel that the "56-42" is more significant than the book. I also wonder how many things in this series, items, things characters say, etc., are deliberately included to throw viewers off. Obviously the tape is significant, and I have a feeling the number is, too, but I don't know about all the objects in the room, like the book and the lighter.

Speaking of objects, whatever happened to the Slenderdoll?

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Yuki wrote:
I kind of take umbrage with the thought of it being an ARG, just because it's not exactly... well, gamey. We're only involved to the point where Jay can clarify things for us over Twitter, pretty much. We don't change/affect the storyline in any way, shape, or form. It seems more like an Alternate Reality Series with a slight bit of interactivity.
I agree that the game aspect isn't really a thing.

On the other hand, MH is very much based on the premise that this shit is really happening and Jay is really going around doing stuff in real time. So if there's something that Jay could do almost-immediately, and which he declares he's about to go do, it really isn't too much of a stretch to expect him to do it that much more quickly than the usual week+ gaps between Entries.

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And as others have pointed out, there's nothing in this entry which would have requited mail-ordering a prop in (which I imagine would have to be something fairly specific to get them to mail-order it rather than just going to a store and buying it, since the USPS has screwed them over at least once before. I imagine the guys would be VERY reluctant to rely on mail-ordered props unless there was literally no way they could acquire them locally within budget. Which makes me suspect it's for Entry 51/52, which makes me suspect that the delay in releasing 50 was in order to give them time to release 51 quickly after it.


So all the above makes me think that the people expecting an entry very soon aren't completely off-base. At the very least, the MH folks (through Jay) have given very clear signals that we are to expect an entry damn soon, and they haven't put out any clarificatory tweets saying we should be patient. If an expectation has been created that the next entry is going to come out sooner than usual, I don't think the audience is entirely to blame when all they've been doing is applying very reasonable interpretations to the stuff they've been told.


Oops, sorry if I didn't make that totally clear. It'd make complete sense for the entry to be soon, or at least for us to get a "I can't find it!" tweet. I was simply nitpicking the reason for it to be soon.

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The video will make interesting commentary for season two weird.

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I may have missed it, but skimming through the posts I don't see any MAJOR discussion of this issue, so I think it's worth bringing up.

Why did Alex want Jay in the woods? Before this entry I had personally assumed that he got attacked while changing tapes(and was pretty scared seeing Alex just standing RIGHT IN HIS FACE when he's getting up). But, nothing happened. Alex didn't show him anything. There doesn't appear to be anything "to show" where Alex is standing when he calls Jay over.

Possibilities are as follows:

-Alex hasn't got a damn clue what he's doing--he's just responding to influence from the Operator, who for some reason wanted Jay in the forest but then decided otherwise. "His ways are not our ways" and we will likely never figure out why exactly Alex does what he does, since TO's thoughts wouldn't make sense to us.

-Alex didn't want to show Jay anything, and only brought him out there to find out if Jay had his house key, or to tell Jay that the key he has is for Alex's house.(Perhaps to help him?)

-Alex had been planning to kill Jay. He asks how things are with Jessica only to get a sense of whether Jay is involving her or not. He reasons at some point during the walk that Jessica is sufficiently involved that she will notice if Jay is missing, and may even know where he is specifically(and he's right). So, he needs to kill Jessica too, and figures that he'd better try to take them both out at once, as he'll never get near Jessica if he kills Jay now.

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Mondai
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Mondai wrote:
tijde (pg.18 ) wrote:
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I'm also puzzled about Alex's motives here. A few possibilities:
- Alex didn't intend to hurt Jay himself. He was luring Jay out then sending him back alone, hoping the Maskies would attack Jay and get him out of Alex's hair. Alex knows the Maskies are aggressive toward himself; maybe he assumes they feel the same about Jay. It's pretty apparent by now that they don't. 
- Alex was asking about Jess. Maybe he intended to take Jay out of the picture, via rocksmash or memory wipeage, but something changes his mind. Jay gives Alex a reason to suspect that Jessica knows too much too, thus Alex delays his plans till they're both in Rosswood.
- Alex was attempting to lure the Maskies to himself

One last (spec) thought: There are at least two masked characters--TiMasky & Hoody. What if Tim was drawing Jay away from Alex, so that Hoody could ambush Alex?!


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Regarding Alex/Tim's behavior, here... basically, this. This is why I've been reading/skimming the past 16 pages. (Read up through 10 for theories, read the next 26 to see if it's been covered.) This was the only thing that touched on it, as far as I saw.

I figure there's two options, in regards to the inclusion of Tim. The first option: Alex was hoping to give Tim (and his cohorts) someone else to stalk/attack/hate, and wanted to see if they would take the bait if he brought Jay into the forest. Since they didn't seem to be interested (and I'm convinced Alex knows they were being followed, so you can't blame it on the lack of fish in the pond, it's definitely a bad bait), he told Jay to bring Jessica next time. Maybe they'd be more interested in her. (But really, maybe they would be!)

The parallel theory, Jay (and potentially Jessica) would still be the bait, but maybe he was hoping to draw Tim in to attack him, rather than divert his attention. In this case, maybe he was hoping to leave Jessica out at first 'cause she might not appreciate seeing Alex, who she already doesn't trust, attack someone when she doesn't know the story. But so long as Jay's not enough, either he knows she wouldn't come alone, or he still wants Jay to be there in case Tim attacks, and he believes Jay would still fight to defend Alex. He might need his help, too, considering how homocidal Tim (and cohorts) have been shown to be around Alex.

CraicIsMighty (pg.19) wrote:
At 6:00 the sky really reminds me off Entry 29, I totally thought this was going to turn into noentry for a second.

Also, does anyone else think Jay looks kinda ..."not right" when he's just sitting outside the tunnel? I wonder if something happened during that 12 minute blackout.


... What if it did? I mean, what if when Jay was changing that tape in the end of entry 38, something scared him shitless, he ran off, found the blood in the tunnel... Maybe he lost a whole day in there, for all we know, teleporting and being slendytranced, and Alex was just there to pick up where they left off with a memory gap so Jay didn't get suspicious. Maybe Tim lead Jay back to the tunnel hoping to spark his memory of the time that just got stolen. Hell, maybe that tape he originally changed to was the noentry tape, which somehow got into Tim/TTA's posession. Maybe that's what Jay just stole ("just" stole in the past) from Alex' apartment! I mean, it might just be me nitpicking, and it might just be a production "error," but it looked like Alex was walking around behind Jay to his right at the end of 38, then at the beginning of the new tape he's in front to Jay's left... I mean, it's not like he couldn't have just walked all the way around him, it just seems a LITTLE odd.


I'm sticking to this.

Someone said earlier in here that if Alex had been meaning to kill Jay, then decided he couldn't until he and Jessica were together, there would have been no reason for them to walk out into the forest like that. Alex could have decided right then that he'd changed his mind, asked him about the key, and left it at that. It wouldn't be the first time Alex had called Jay out for something so simple, I doubt Jay would have questioned it much.

But I'll give you the first possibility, easily. If it's a form of Slendytrance, we may never get more info on it, 'cause it may well be beyond explanation.

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Re: Alex's motives (again)... Whatever Alex's motives and plans were at the end of #49, it seems likely that they changed at some point. I can't shake the feeling that the amped-up distortion immediately after the tape change is a clue. Why is the distortion *there*? Why *then*?   

In past entries, we've seen Alex cause distortion by getting angry/emotional and by getting close to the camera. Earlier during this hike, Alex was both physically close to the camera and outwordly emotional ("I'm only going to ask you this once..."). Yet the distortion wasn't nearly as bad before the tape change. So did something significant happen inside Alex during those few moments without footage? Is this the point where Alex changes his mind--the distortion serving as evidence of some inner struggle? Considering what we've been shown about Alex's effect on cameras thus far, what else could it be? 

These aren't rhetorical questions; I'd love ideas if you've got 'em. The distortion has bugged me for days, but I can't seem to come up with more ideas. =\ 

EDIT: I would love to see the Slenderdoll come back into play, mostly because I'm attempting a crochet version of my very own right now. Very Happy
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mokie wrote:
Rogue Thoughts wrote:
There should be more spec about the 56-42. I'm surprised at you guys!


Multiples of 7?

If Man is 5, and the Devil is 6, and God is 7, this Bruce has gone to Heaven?


I think I love you. I love that pixies song.

Anyway. I am totally thrown by this entry. It was the longest entry ever but very little was revealed! Alex is very perplexing... I highly doubt that something happened between the tape changes though, maybe Alex changed his motives but I don't think entry 29 happened between the changes. I dunno....

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To be honest, I don't REALLY believe it, either. But I prefer wild conjecture to silence, so I figured I'd throw it out there. At the very least, it's a fun crackpot notion, and if it DID happen I think I might have a fit of maniacal laughter. Razz

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