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[veebee]

[Dagada]

V and S are two halves of a whole, to my mind. Our "hero" has become polarised, more so as time progresses. I suspect we will be asked to take sides soon, or find a way to combine the two.

If you track back to the first appearances of Vlad, in Vanessa Atlanta and Ministry Of Argon a machine had been constructed that allowed control and manipulation of time, vitally linked to cardinal points in the UK. I suspect we're witnessing the creation of this machine in the Project, and could even shape the birth of the ministry...

[veebee]

I hope we don't have to take sides, it has already been shown that competition in this has killed interaction.
In Vlads FB profile he specifically said you don't need previous experience or knowledge of the other games, so I have to have a gentle *snark* when they are brought up

I agree, two halves of the one whole, the joining together of the two brothers, the joining of the treasures, it all smacks of creating something (maybe good, maybe not?) out of stuff that seems so different to the other things that you just cant see how they would or could go together.

It's too late for me now, but I'm going to have another look at the treasures and as we have been told, look at the properties, look at the abilities and try and see how they can make a whole thing together...

[ddl]

[Telos954]

Sorry for the inactivity, I've been busy as hell at work. Corporate has been there through out the day for the past week, and we're busting our asses to put on the good show while they're there. Til they're done (next week) I'm doing two things; work and sleep.

[Dagada]

Good call on Jung. Despite the current polarisation, I wouldn't be surprised if the best result results from a combining of V and S.

S seems to be much more "alive" than the computer like V right now, and while V is focused on "traditions" and process, S speaks highly of those who overturn institutions and fight the establishment. Yet I have concerns he wants anarchy for anarchy's sake rather than a constructive change.

While you may not need any prior knowledge of previous installments to play, I still suspect there are links and continuities for those willing to look for them. Each chapter has been self contained, but with constantly recurring themes, images and concepts. It's wont spoil enjoyment if you just take VS as a unique entity, but contemplating these can help give more depth and understanding of the characters etc.

[nichiera]

I posted this back awhile when the PM was helping me catch up on the game he was explaining somethings:


Vlad:
Oh, and one last thing - Vladimir seems to have a shadow side to himself - someone called Sergei who is more independent and more rebellious. Sergei knows of Vlad, Vlad seems not to know of Sergei.

[veebee]

So, I've been thinking...
Sergei, in reference to the knife treasure, asked in chat "What else is divided into 24's?"
Clearly a day is 24 hours, but at the start of a game of chess, don't both players have 24 "men at the table"?

Still working on the rest...

Edit: Sergei also alluded to Yin Yang (well done to Aquarius for that one!) and suggested looking at the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_and_yang

I've not had time, though when it was mentioned I started thinking about trigrams and hexagrams (there are 64 hexagrams in the I Ching) but I'm probably off on the wrong track. I think it's more to do with integrating Sergei with Vlad in some way.

[aquarius904]

[veebee]

I think that's where that was going. Yin Yang are also present in the I-Ching with Yin being the solid line and Yang the broken one.

That also jives with what he said in our chat on Facebook:

[Dagada]

You've kind of hit on something there.

We're functioning like Vlad and Sergei, pulling in separate directions rather than a collective whole.

While it's part of the fun of ARGs that players can have their own agenda, this is only competitive if we make it that way.

If all us guardians (I have the white hilt if folk didn't know) come to a consensus and work together we, in effect, become the machine; something more powerful than the sum of its parts.

The way I'm seeing things is that Sergei is more "concious" than Vlad - and this makes him potentially dominant. Maybe together we have a way of awakening Vlad, and making both sides aware of the importance of existing in a ying yang status rather than acting like ourobouros

[veebee]

Sorry, just re-read my post and it sounds like I was dissing people, that was seriously NOT my intention

Well, the treasures either: Give you sustenance, transport you, help you judge people, or keep you hidden. Or, of course, allow you to watch a game of chess being played all by itself.
The only judgement treasure which doen't work is the white hilt, because you can pretend you are a "well born man" simply by refusing to take it. So that one is a bit of a paradox.

Do we think each treasure is sort of assigned to either Vlad or Sergei? If they are, then the thought about pairing them up makes sense.

Am I rambling again? Probably

[Lystella]

Thankies veebee! As for Circadian, this is what was posted earlier in the thread:

[ironnikki]

Sorry for my silence, again. I've been somewhat busy with grad school applications and other RL concerns.

I'm not a guardian, so I'm not really sure whether or not my involvement in this game has ended. I'll continue to follow the thread, but I may not be around as much as I was when this started. Just wanted to pop in and let you guys know that I haven't completely disappeared, haha.

[veebee]

Vlad did say there would be tasks for both guardians and non guardians, so your good!