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QuintusSeptime
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Just got this from Vlad. I wrote him last night asking for personnel information on Agent "Sirin", and after my IM chat with him that I posted, he sent me this. The body of the email said

Quote:
Truth contained
VS 3.1


Take a look, some interesting new information.

Also, I'm uploading as attachments (because I finally figured out how to do that!) the other two documents I've gotten so far.

In the new doc, 'Cardui' is mentioned as a Handler, and Vlad being part of the 'butterfly project' is mentioned. Vanessa cardui is a type of butterfly, so I'm guessing that Cardui headed up whatever project Vladimir (who may actually be named Elsa?) was a subject for.

Passion for chess - Through the Looking Glass is all about a chess game, could be another Carroll reference? Same for the "White Rabbit" handler, the "Lewis" alias, the "Cheshire Cat" alias.

Oh, and spoilers:

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Look underneath the image in Elsa.doc and in Not13.doc

Elsa.doc
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Tri Thlws ar Ddeg Ynys Prydain.doc
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:28 pm
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ddl
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I know a White Rabbit, but am unsure of whether the one I know is the same. Considering the other's position, I think they are different, but at this point who knows.

If you move the text on elsa to the side you see three playing cards. Jack of Hearts, Nine of Spades and Ace of Spades.

I believe, that butterfly references pull from the events of Vannessa Atlanta. I didn't play the game[s] personally, but I did look them up.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:24 am
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Lystella
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ddl wrote:
I know a White Rabbit, but am unsure of whether the one I know is the same. Considering the other's position, I think they are different, but at this point who knows.


Maybe they are related. This video from WhiteRabbitYT makes reference to Intueor.



YouTube: Link


Document "Not13" also makes reference to "Father," who played an important role in F.F.E.Y.T.
Quote:
Developments resulting from the funded experiments in Buchenwald allowed for two creatinos to be assessed. One was developed by 'Father' brand of Intueor, the other by the 'Mother' branch. Bother are still under development.


EDIT:
The speaking person mentions being Father in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8S70bIXPbg

He then procedes to mention Buchenwald in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxJXNBe-tuQ

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:56 am
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Oh, I knew ever since the Intueor reference that not only does this link to Vanessa, but Forest as well. Father is was a member of Intueor, and it seems Vlad is as well.
What I was questioning was whether the Handler (WHITE RABBIT) referred to in the elsa document was Forest/Father or another figure. Of course the CARDUI name also seems to point to Vanessa.
Of course, following the Green's interference both have now left the playing field...

{While not entirely significant, especially for those who have not played the past games- The abilities granted by the FWHMeyers Module seems to act similarly to Forest's abilities. Vlad seems to have lost a decent chunk of his humanity in this process however, perhaps Forest's unique status offered him some protection?}
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:42 am
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ironnikki
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I didn't play F.F.E.Y.-T, but after skimming the thread and reading the summary on the wiki, I can definitely see some similarities. It's been hinted that this game might be a prequel to the other three VA games, but perhaps it's also a prequel to the events of F.F.E.Y.-T. as well? This just continues to get more and more interesting...

Could you elaborate a little more on Forest's abilities, ddl? His character page on the wiki didn't seem to shed much light on the IG character. Also, the Father character doesn't have a page associated with him/it, so I'm a little lost on who or what that is.

ETA: Just some more scraps of information I've come across. Vlad has mentioned that the acronym VS stands for "Veridas Sinople." Sinople can refer to the colors red or green, but is more often used to describe something green, as derived from the rules of heraldry (sinople = "vert".) I've had little luck finding a translation for Veridas, but if we make a slight jump from Veridas to Veritas, it translates from Latin to truth. So, all in all, after a couple assumptions, we get "Green Truth."

Additionally, the link provided in the elsa document leads here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15200386 This is an interesting story about using computers to detect and translate brain activity. The elsa document says that this information was released "today," meaning that this document was created on the day that the article was released, 9 Oct. It also mentions that questions of morality were intentionally brought to light to obscure the details of where the technology was actually developed, which I take to be Intueor. The end of the document suggests that Agent Sirin has ethical issues to contend with, something that coincides with Vlad's character from previous games.

Finally, after receiving a bit of code on his FB (the ubiquitous "Hello World" script,) Vlad responded with "Old Turnip-top, good-night!" I believe that this is a line from Carroll's Phantasmagoria, a long poem that details a conversation between a ghost and the narrator. I'm sure that this is mostly flavor, but I'd like to keep those not on FB as informed as possible!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:44 pm
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The F.F.E.Y-T. wiki was originally composed and the updated during the events of the first chapter. During Part One, Father was an ambiguous character only mentioned in passing by Forest near the end.

He introduced himself to Forest friends by broadcasting videos onto Youtube while Forest slept. Father was also revealed to be the one giving Forest missions and instructions. (He was also a lying bastard, as he told us that he was only involved in the Buchenwald experiments after they had occurred, NOT that his own company/the company he was a part of had funded them.)

At the end, Father was forcibly removed from existence by the Watchman, because he broke the laws of nature by bringing Forest back to life.

Rushing now.... will edit more in later. Tshcuss!
Re Forest's abilities: Forest was able to interact with computers on a direct level(think The Matrix, that was the common consensus) during Ch. 1, and at the opening of 2 he was given a wireless connectivity function. It had a learning curve, but it seems to work similar to the Module that Vlad has.

Also, I believe that Father and Forest were connected in ways we still can't fully understand. After Father was first removed from this plane, Forest reverted from 'we' to 'I'.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:33 pm
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Thanks for giving us more information on F.F.E.Y.-T, ddl. Now that I know more about Forest and Father, I can definitely see the similarities that you were referring to. The module does sound similar to Forest's abilities, and Vlad's tendency to use 'we' rather than 'I' sounds like it's similar to Forest's method of speaking.

I've asked Vlad on FB about Cardui and White Rabbit. I think he might freak out again like he does when we ask him about Intueor, but it's worth a shot.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:43 pm
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aquarius904
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The text behind the image on Not13 says:

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!RYMMHCGNRETRUGF'GNUG,UN?VZNQYEBJRUGAVBUJ,FVABVGFRHDGKRARUG,RZNFRUGGBAZ'VSVGHO.GARERSSVQRYGGVYNTAVYRRSEROZRZREANPVXAVUGGFBZYNV?TAVAEBZFVUGCHGBTVARUJRZNFRUGVFNJ:XAVUGRZGRY?GUTVARUGAVQRTANUPARRORI'VSVERQABJV

It's ROT13 which translates to this:

!ELZZUPTAERGEHTS'TAHT,HA?IMADLROWEHTNIOHW,SINOITSEUQTXENEHT,EMASEHTTONM'IFITUB.TNEREFFIDELTTILAGNILEEFREBMEMERNACIKNIHTTSOMLAI?GNINROMSIHTPUTOGINEHWEMASEHTISAW:KNIHTEMTEL?THGINEHTNIDEGNAHCNEEBEV'IFIREDNOWI

Reverse the text and it says this:

I wonder if I've been changed in the night? Let me think: was I the same when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I'm not the same, the next question is, who in the world am I? Ha, that's the great puzzle!


I didn't see this posted yet so I figured I'd do it. Looks like we really need to start digging into WHO Vladimir REALLY is!

Edit:

New email from Vladimir:

Quote:
Dear friend
We now note that, internationally speaking, a group of possible players is now available...
Good.
Welcome to Intueor - possibly...
The game of kings awaits you - cover all bases in solving it - and you will understand the position you are in...
[One month to go]
V.S. 3.1
So she sat on, with closed eyes, and half believed herself in Wonderland, though she knew she had but to open them again, and all would change to dull...
Intueor thanks you.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:47 pm
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Quintus found the ciphered text in the not13 document, and figured out that it's a quote from Alice in Wonderland. Good eyes, though! As far as this newest puzzle, I don't have any immediate ideas about it, but I'm giving it a shot nonetheless. Also, Vlad bugged out again when attempting to answer my questions about Cardui and the White Rabbit, so that's a no go.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:36 pm
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Ah, ok. Thanks! I'm gonna take a crack at it too. I mean, first impression just looking at it, it LOOKS like a Dec/Char but that would probably be too easy. It almost seems like this is to sort players out so it probably has a difficulty level of AT LEAST the first Mega Man game.

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I really hope that's not the case, otherwise I don't stand a chance! Haha. I've started an IRC chat channel, #vladimir. If you don't have an IRC client, you can use a browser applet at www.unfiction.com/chat (replace the #unfiction in the channel box with #vladimir). Anybody and everybody is welcome!
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Vladimir Sirin stopped by Chatzy chatroom and had this discussion.
Link to chat: http://us3.chatzy.com/65768348929587

Quote:
Maurice started chat 17 minutes ago

Maurice sent out an invitation 17 minutes ago

Maurice2 joined the chat 15 minutes ago

Quint joined the chat 13 minutes ago

Maurice: Hello

Quint: Hi, Maurice. Any luck with the chess board?

Maurice: Well, yes... sort of.. I'm still stumped but got some great clues...

Maurice: One minute here I'll see what I can copy/paste

Quint: I definitely don't think the "cover all your BASES" in the email was a happy accident, I've been trying to find the right base to use

Quint: No luck so far.

Maurice: What about acid/base and chemical properties

Maurice: one sec

Maurice: I can email you a transcript.

Maurice: Copy/Paste doesnt seem to be working

Maurice: Mainly... no, one doesn't need the varients of chess

Quint: That'd be awesome. QuintusSeptimeSPLATYahoo.com​

Maurice: 2. Knowledge of the works of Lewis Carrol "[and the other variants of Yates' choosing] are not needed to decipher the message or solve the task."

Maurice: and the big one: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term...

VS 3.1 joined the chat 8 minutes ago

Maurice: Hello

VS 3.1: Hello.

VS 3.1: To all...

Quint: Hello Vladimir. How are you?

VS 3.1: We are fine - how are you?

Quint: I'm well, thank you.

Maurice: As am I, thank you.

VS 3.1: How may we help?

Dagada joined the chat 4 minutes ago

Lystella joined the chat 4 minutes ago

VS 3.1: Hello to all.

VS 3.1: We hope you are all well.

Lystella: Hiya! \(^_^)_

VS 3.1: How may we help?

Dagada: Kon ban wa.

VS 3.1: "\(^_^)_"=Unknown command - please specify:

VS 3.1: Good evening Dagada

Lystella: It's a waving smiley face

Dagada: <strong>Hello to all</strong>

VS 3.1: Ah - emoticons - understood - simplified act of physical expression via electronic means

Maurice: VS 3.1; If I may propse a question? What chemical relationship can be found from the number 22 as it relates to the first test.jpg; cell A1

VS 3.1: Maurice: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term...

VS 3.1: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term... even...

Dagada joined the chat 33 seconds ago

Dagada: Accessing these systems through available portal is not optimal.

VS 3.1: We do not wish to deny enjoyment, satisfaction or assist in solving of any tasks set. We will specify and answer questions directly relating to the puzzles, as already discussed within this 'forum'...

VS 3.1: Dagada - we apologise - please specify preferred communication...

Quint: [oog - I have to head out. If someone could get a transcript of the chat and post it, that'd be great]

Maurice: Accessing: http://www.enymonline.com/index.php?term... Term: 'even'

Lystella: I think it is this: ...term-test

Lystella: err term=test

VS 3.1: Incorrect understanding of previous communication: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term... was an incomplete link - we were reposting and stating in humorous tones that the link was not corect by the word 'even', illiciting an understanding of direct communication having amde an error...

VS 3.1: error: correct

VS 3.1: error: made

VS 3.1: How may we help?

Dagada: Good friend, this little owl may need an email to peruse. His current equipment is not adequate for this method of communication and I may have to disconnect shortly to preserve integrity and sanity.

Dagada: </div>

VS 3.1: I don't think they can hear me,' she went on, as she put her head closer down...

Dagada: </div>

VS 3.1: vladimirsirinSPLATyahoo.co.u​k

VS 3.1: All are allowed access to the test - test sent via electronic mailing...

VS 3.1: Send an electronic communique to affirm a contact point for receipt...

Maurice: Vladimir, thank you for your time today but I must depart as well; I hope we can reaccess this communication channel soon at a more opportune time.

VS 3.1: Goodbye Maurice - we thank you for your time.

VS 3.1: To others - how may we help? We believed there were questions?

VS 3.1: Awaiting response...

VS 3.1: ...

Lystella: I have no questions at this point in time as I'm still trying to figure out where to start

VS 3.1: Lystella: Say 'Men are Men, and Geese are Geese.'"

VS 3.1: Lystella - have you received the 'test'?

Lystella: 'Men are Men, and Geese are Geese.'''

Lystella: I have

VS 3.1: This may help: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Beginning_M...

VS 3.1: It may not...

Lystella: hmm....I think it does offer helpful words.

VS 3.1: perhaps this then? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hcXiGb6_s

Lystella: Definitely helps in untangling brain knots!

Lystella: But yes, the beginning is a good place to start

VS 3.1: All we will suggest is listen VERY carefully to the words - we do not intend to just amuse with music...

VS 3.1: "When you know the notes to sing..."

Lystella: I'm not sure if it is just coincidence that when you said that, I reached that point in the song

VS 3.1: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term...

VS 3.1: Falling upon together the ideas...

VS 3.1: If you have no questions, and no others wish to enter a discussion we will politely start leaving the conversation and power down.

Lystella: Thank you for hosting the discussion!

VS 3.1: WE did not. 'Maurice' did.

Lystella: Oh!

Lystella: Well, thank you for joining then

VS 3.1: You are welcome.

VS 3.1: Powering down...

Lystella: Take care! \(^_^)_

VS 3.1: COMMUNICATION CHANNEL CLOSED - REINSTATING AT TIME OF MULTI-REQUEST


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I talked to Vlad yesterday as well, and received the same documents as everyone else. I had no idea anything was going on beforehand, so most of it is redundant. He told me to post our chat, so here it is:

Quote:

V:AUTOMATIC LIVE SENSORY INPUT DETECTED - Do you wish to continue?


A:Yes, I do


V:Please state form of response required: 1]Text in electronic mailing 2]Voice prompt/response 3]Interactive 4] xxxxdeactivatedxxxxx


A:3


V:Hello friend - how may we help you?


A:Hello. I'm unsure of what's going on, to be honest


V:Please specify enquiry... 'what's going on' - relating to what activity/event/process/thought...
?
V:Awaiting response...


V:Intueor information request received. Would you like this information within this conversation or sent electronically?


A:electronically


V:Please specify electronic mail address:


A:glassmemento@gmail.com


V:Information being sent - please allow 12 hours for delivery [although we aim for quicker, power fluctuations regarding server errors may delay response time - Intueor thanks you.]
V:How are you today?


A:I am well. And you?
A:Thank you for the information


V:I am well. You are welcome.


A:Time for me to go. I hope to chat soon


V:Information has been sent.


I removed a bit of oog chat about me being at work, but otherwise, that's everything.

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*insert subjective connections here*

With the reference to Alice and the chessboard-looking puzzle, I was considering the chess theme described in the wiki article. The theme describes the progression of Through the Looking Glass in terms of chess moves. I am not entirely sure if it is related to the puzzle, but it is a possible lead.


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Vladimir has confirmed that we don't need knowledge of the rules of chess or knowledge of Lewis Carroll for the solve. Maurice sent me a chat log where that was revealed, when I get home I'll try to post it.

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