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j1001
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Biohazard80 wrote:
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Wait a minute guys, Brian most likely isnt alive. I dont recall which TTA response it was, but I definitely remember someone decoding a Season 1 response and it saying "Brian is dead".

He isn't hoody Sad


I believe you're referring to the response that said "Lives have been lost." People just assumed this was Brian but this video, as well as others, shows that this might have been going on for a while and that Alex could have countless victims.


I would consider Tim's life as lost. Poor dude is a crazy ass gimp in a mask scaring the shit out of people.

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MiyokoKasumi wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been posted, but is anyone else reminded of Entry 13 where the Operator has his head tilted toward what looks like a door when Alex has Brian stand with his head against a door?


Great catch! This might be the same building, which means Alex DID Question bring Jay he at least once

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TheBioGuy wrote:
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Im searching for it, I swear I remember it. I may have been fake though.

Im not trying to troll/lie or anything either. I honestly remember this. Sorry if I am mistaken.


Okay, as long as you're working on backing yourself up.

Good luck!
I can't find it. But I promise you the video exists/existed. Im going to assume it was fake/wrong, seeing as how none of you recall the same thing. I apologize for jumping to conclusions on that.

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RAPIDLY TYPED THEORY GO!

I think when Entry 51 happened, Alex was under the Operator's control and captured the cast for the Operator. He tried to get Jay, but somehow couldn't, and had Jay's memory wiped somehow instead. Alex breaks free (whoo) and goes on with his life. One of the TTA members returns Alex's camera, leading the Operator back to him. Alex successfully escapes, Operator captures Amy, and brings her back to the brick building to lure Alex. In 26, one of the distorted clips at the beginning is of Alex walking through the same building (too lazy to find image). Probably looking for Amy. The masked person in 26 is speculated to be a masked Amy. Alex finds Jay to help him find her, but in 43, the Operator finds him(?) and mind rapes him again. [stuff we're seeing in recent entreeez hapenz]. Alex tries AGAIN to capture Jay, but AGAIN can't. He then wipes his memory AGAIN. The Operator captures Jessica just as caught Amy, Tim chases Jay out of hotel, and Jay slowly, SLOWLY (I cannot stress this enough) looks through each tape.

OH MY GOD I HAVE OTHER HOMEWORKS TO DO UGHUHUGHAHGUAGS
MIDTURMS FRIDAY
10:52.
WHY?!

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Biohazard80 wrote:
MiyokoKasumi wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been posted, but is anyone else reminded of Entry 13 where the Operator has his head tilted toward what looks like a door when Alex has Brian stand with his head against a door?


Great catch! This might be the same building, which means Alex DID bring Jay he at least once

This HAS already been discussed, but a new idea popped into my head. Makes no sense and is pure conjecture though.
There's a theory that Slendy takes something from his victims.
Maybe he mimics them involuntarily?

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MistrPibb wrote:
RAPIDLY TYPED THEORY GO!

I think when Entry 51 happened, Alex was under the Operator's control and captured the cast for the Operator. He tried to get Jay, but somehow couldn't, and had Jay's memory wiped somehow instead. Alex breaks free (whoo) and goes on with his life. One of the TTA members returns Alex's camera, leading the Operator back to him. Alex successfully escapes, Operator captures Amy, and brings her back to the brick building to lure Alex. In 26, one of the distorted clips at the beginning is of Alex walking through the same building (too lazy to find image). Probably looking for Amy. The masked person in 26 is speculated to be a masked Amy. Alex finds Jay to help him find her, but in 43, the Operator finds him(?) and mind rapes him again. [stuff we're seeing in recent entreeez hapenz]. Alex tries AGAIN to capture Jay, but AGAIN can't. He then wipes his memory AGAIN. The Operator captures Jessica just as caught Amy, Tim chases Jay out of hotel, and Jay slowly, SLOWLY (I cannot stress this enough) looks through each tape.

OH MY GOD I HAVE OTHER HOMEWORKS TO DO UGHUHUGHAHGUAGS
MIDTURMS FRIDAY
10:52.
WHY?!
Your avatar only made reading this theory even more hilarious. I imagined it spoken really really fast haha.

I do like this theory though. And I have NEVER even thought of the masked person in 26 being Amy, so thanks for that info.

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lawlmarcus wrote:
Biohazard80 wrote:
Spoot wrote:
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Indeed, how do we know that what we watched in season 1 was a series of tapes carefully selected by Alex so that we'd think he was just an innocent victim?




That's absolutely brilliant.
You just won the internet as far as I'm concerned.
Agreed. As I stated earlier, this blew my mind so much.


This holds very well for 2 reasons:
1. Why couldn't Alex just burn the videos himself?
2. Alex still has this tape, which if he was so afraid of Slendy, than why the FUCK would he keep it?


A lot of people in this thread seem to be operating under the belief that Alex asked Jay to burn the tapes.
Watch Introduction again.
Alex was planning on burning the tapes, but Jay convinced him to give them to him instead.
Doesn't discount the theory, just getting facts straight.


I can't speak for my fellows, but I know Alex didn't ask Jay to burn them. And I don't know how you got that impression from this quote tree.

Either way, the theory is still valid. Alex could have very well given Jay certain tapes while keeping the rest for himself.

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lawlmarcus wrote:
Biohazard80 wrote:
MiyokoKasumi wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been posted, but is anyone else reminded of Entry 13 where the Operator has his head tilted toward what looks like a door when Alex has Brian stand with his head against a door?


Great catch! This might be the same building, which means Alex DID bring Jay he at least once

This HAS already been discussed, but a new idea popped into my head. Makes no sense and is pure conjecture though.
There's a theory that Slendy takes something from his victims.
Maybe he mimics them involuntarily?


This would make alot of sense if Slendy feeds off of memories O_o. The question would than be why Alex is killing people.

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Ok, let's talk motive. Some of you have been more enthusiastic about my theory that the season 1 tapes were carefully selected to give us(and Jay) the impression that Alex was innocent, but in any case it's undeniable now that Alex did withhold THIS tape, so that means that he had a definite reason for getting Jay involved in all this. So, the question is, why?

The object is clearly not to kill Jay--he could have done that easily a bunch of times. The more likely reason is that he wants to sacrifice him to Operator like the rest of his friends. The problem here is that although Jay lost his memory of his involvement with the Marble Hornets filming, he seems to have avoided getting Slendersnacked when they filmed the thing originally, and unlike Tim, he managed to keep his sanity while doing it.

I can't think of any other reason at the moment. Yet, I feel like it's GOT to more complicated than this. How hard could it have been to convince Jay to take a walk with him into the burned out building--why even give him the tapes? It may have been that Alex was hoping that Jay's snooping around would draw out Tim and give him a chance to kill him. But I'm wondering if his motives are more complicated than we even have information to speculate on.

Incidentally, this discussion is the first time I ever won the internet.

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lawlmarcus wrote:
Biohazard80 wrote:
MiyokoKasumi wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been posted, but is anyone else reminded of Entry 13 where the Operator has his head tilted toward what looks like a door when Alex has Brian stand with his head against a door?


Great catch! This might be the same building, which means Alex DID bring Jay he at least once

This HAS already been discussed, but a new idea popped into my head. Makes no sense and is pure conjecture though.
There's a theory that Slendy takes something from his victims.
Maybe he mimics them involuntarily?


Example of this? Since we only see him jerkily moving, I am curious as to what mimicking he is doing.

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Things we learned:

1) Alex either has lost his memories or was lying. We know he has lied to Jay. We know he attacked Tim. Why would he have animosity against Tim if he COULDN'T REMEMBER!?!? QED: He has been lying consciously. That doesn't mean that he WILLFULLY attacked them, but he has to know. That's why he gave all the tapes to Jay ("burn them") except the one incriminating one. The rest of them are circumstantial at best.

Thus 2) Slendy and Alex somehow communed or some shit during Marble Hornets leading to Seth getting picked off and apparently Brian and Tim. I expect that they are going to "retcon" the Basement of Doom into the burned out hospital's downstairs. Anyone else wanna bet?

3) I really think based on what we saw this season, Alex will admit he is either being possessed or pressured into doing what he does. Why do I think this? The drawings. He can clearly create some sort of cry for help, meaning he isn't doing it completely willfully.

4) Remember all the video with Masky in it? I bet they were supposed to take plce while he was locked up. A time lapse of him in his mask gets you the scene where he twists around. The third mask on Seth explains the one mask picture we haven't seen yet. Hoody is Brian. Meaning...

4a) Alex is ToTheArk, trying to get Jay to save him or the rest of the cast is and they have been stealing tapes and everything from Alex forever. because NOTHING in this show is as straight forward as one would guess it leads me to my grand-daddy conclusion.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The End of MH: Alex has a moment of freedom, begs Jay to kill him. Jay complies. The rest of MH disappears now that they are free of their Slendery torment. Jay's final video is twisted, painful thing where he basically has PTSD and admits he doesn't know what will happen with TO.


Cheers!

EDIT: Guys, come on. Seth is taken by this point. "hey Alex where is Seth?" "Uhh, he was... sick. he will just come out some other time..." A casual lie but supposed to be an obvious one. Listen to Alex, he doesn't hesitate, he speaks directly in every shot. He doesn't offer weak excuses that aren't lies.

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Nex wrote:
lawlmarcus wrote:
Biohazard80 wrote:
Spoot wrote:
Nex wrote:
Camero wrote:


Indeed, how do we know that what we watched in season 1 was a series of tapes carefully selected by Alex so that we'd think he was just an innocent victim?




That's absolutely brilliant.
You just won the internet as far as I'm concerned.
Agreed. As I stated earlier, this blew my mind so much.


This holds very well for 2 reasons:
1. Why couldn't Alex just burn the videos himself?
2. Alex still has this tape, which if he was so afraid of Slendy, than why the FUCK would he keep it?


A lot of people in this thread seem to be operating under the belief that Alex asked Jay to burn the tapes.
Watch Introduction again.
Alex was planning on burning the tapes, but Jay convinced him to give them to him instead.
Doesn't discount the theory, just getting facts straight.


I can't speak for my fellows, but I know Alex didn't ask Jay to burn them. And I don't know how you got that impression from this quote tree.

Either way, the theory is still valid. Alex could have very well given Jay certain tapes while keeping the rest for himself.


I realize my mistake but the question of why Alex kept this tape still stands

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Great entry, blah blah.

I have a funny feeling that this whole serious could be wrapped up in just two entries. There are still so many ways it could end though.

In my mind, there are still these major issues to resolve:

1: How did Jay and Jessica end up in the hotel, and what happened to Jessica in present time?

3: Whose bloody shirt was in the Entry 29 tunnel? (note that whoever the camera operator was, they were using both a camcorder and the chest cam. We only have the corrupt chest cam footage.)

4: Finding out who/what Totheark is, and what TTAs motives are.

5: Brand new as of this entry, what does Alex do in the past after he finds out Jay stole this tape?

5: Finally, where is Alex in present time, and what is Jay going to do about it?

I'm probably missing a couple things, and feel free to add on. Obviously there are secondary and background plot points that are still missing ie: What happened to Amy, who is Hoody, Skully etc. but i'm focusing more on the key points that must be solved in order for the series to close at all.

EDIT: I seem to have missed something fairly recently, because i'm not sure who Bruce is. Could someone explain that briefly?

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That was a damn good entry. They have shocked me once again. Totally awesome.

As for Brian leaning against that door, I got a really sinking feeling when that happened... especially since all that coughing started at that point. Even though someone else mentioned that Tim's coughing might be due to being trapped in a room filled with asbestos, the first thing I thought of with Brian's head being cocked in that direction near a door reminded me of ToTheArk's "Admission." After all, guys... "There are doors - unopened."

Am I the only one who wants to know if there's anything behind that door? Sorry if someone mentioned it already, but for reason that stuck with me.

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What does Brian say at 3:32ish, at the end of the hallway?

Worth noting that #51's shot in the fall; scenery's still green, but they're in warmer clothes, and you can see Brian's breath when he's on the railroad tracks (unless he smokes).
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