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Camero
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Biohazard80 wrote:
Nex wrote:
lawlmarcus wrote:
Biohazard80 wrote:
Spoot wrote:
Nex wrote:
Camero wrote:


Indeed, how do we know that what we watched in season 1 was a series of tapes carefully selected by Alex so that we'd think he was just an innocent victim?




That's absolutely brilliant.
You just won the internet as far as I'm concerned.
Agreed. As I stated earlier, this blew my mind so much.


This holds very well for 2 reasons:
1. Why couldn't Alex just burn the videos himself?
2. Alex still has this tape, which if he was so afraid of Slendy, than why the FUCK would he keep it?


A lot of people in this thread seem to be operating under the belief that Alex asked Jay to burn the tapes.
Watch Introduction again.
Alex was planning on burning the tapes, but Jay convinced him to give them to him instead.
Doesn't discount the theory, just getting facts straight.


I can't speak for my fellows, but I know Alex didn't ask Jay to burn them. And I don't know how you got that impression from this quote tree.

Either way, the theory is still valid. Alex could have very well given Jay certain tapes while keeping the rest for himself.


I realize my mistake but the question of why Alex kept this tape still stands


He kept the tape of him killing Bruce, too. I doubt that he ever expected Jay to get his hands on either of them. He may just not destroy the tapes because his mind is so shot that it's the only way he can remember what he's been doing.

Regardless, I stand by my theory--if he withheld THIS tape from Jay, there's good reason to believe it isn't the only tape he kept. To me, then, it seems pretty likely that the tapes he picked were deliberately selected to craft a "story" of innocence that Jay would eat right up.

The man's a film director, after all, he's more than used to picking out just the right footage to tell the story he wants.

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Camero
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Jaytenthousand wrote:
Great entry, blah blah.

I have a funny feeling that this whole serious could be wrapped up in just two entries. There are still so many ways it could end though.

In my mind, there are still these major issues to resolve:

1: How did Jay and Jessica end up in the hotel, and what happened to Jessica in present time?

3: Whose bloody shirt was in the Entry 29 tunnel? (note that whoever the camera operator was, they were using both a camcorder and the chest cam. We only have the corrupt chest cam footage.)

4: Finding out who/what Totheark is, and what TTAs motives are.

5: Brand new as of this entry, what does Alex do in the past after he finds out Jay stole this tape?

5: Finally, where is Alex in present time, and what is Jay going to do about it?

I'm probably missing a couple things, and feel free to add on. Obviously there are secondary and background plot points that are still missing ie: What happened to Amy, who is Hoody, Skully etc. but i'm focusing more on the key points that must be solved in order for the series to close at all.

EDIT: I seem to have missed something fairly recently, because i'm not sure who Bruce is. Could someone explain that briefly?


I think you've definitely covered everything we still need to know, very nice. At least some of that we may be able to figure out for ourselves, of course.

"Bruce" is just a fan nickname given to the guy who Alex kills in #49.

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Spades Slick wrote:
Whoo, ima write a long-ass post and hope it doesnt get ignored.

This is an analysis of imagery and links to other entries.

-Tim is wrapped up in a blanket. What does this suggest? Perhaps having been in the place a long time. Is he held there? Is he recovering from something? It brings to mind images of hospitalization, almost.

-Brian leaning his head up against the door: It's strange that alex wanted him to go into this position. It almost seems unnatural, the lengths Brian has to take to get his head there. This is all very subjective, but it seems Alex almost wanted Brian posing like that for him specifically because he knew what was coming. The only connection I can really draw here is Slendy from 40. His head was tilted ever so slightly, in a very creepy way. It's a real stretch, but it's all i've got on this.

-46-54: No fuckin' clue.

-Tim, Alex, and Brian, and what all of this means: I'm not sure. We've yet to discover exactly what's happened to Brian, and until we confirm his state of life-or-death, i think all theories are off the table. You see, there are two drastic paths this could take, depending on his state of life or death, and both of them have loads of tiny little branching theories bouncing out of them.

*If alive, it leaves us to wonder if Brian and Tim were subjected to the same tortures, and if this was the cause to their ascension (or descent) into maskdom.

*If dead, it leaves us to wonder what happened in the missing part of the entry, leaving brian dead on his back, and leaving Tim gone without a trace.

*Either way, Alex refers to Jay, Tim, Seth, Brian, etc. as a group of people who are all "gone." Does this Gone suggest that, perhaps, they all have some split masky persona? Perhaps Tim wasn't just lying in his interview, perhaps he really didn't remember anything about the Operator, perhaps his masky side is a completely opposite force, and if such is true, perhaps the same can be said of Alex's sudden bouts of aggressiveness.

It would also explain the TTA video in which Jay looks like a zombie and is chilling in a hallway with Slendy.

Any opinions?


Ok--so Ima just jump in here jow even though I haven't read pages following cuz I don't wanna lose this and train of thought--I have the same questions pretty much and wonder if being drug away means dead or just unconscious--or what "GONE" means--gone dead--gone Sledny-napped into another dimension--gone mentally and emotionally as in Slendy-mind-raped??
GAHHHH!! So many questions!! Shocked

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Jaytenthousand wrote:
EDIT: I seem to have missed something fairly recently, because i'm not sure who Bruce is. Could someone explain that briefly?


Disregard that. It seems I missed Entry 49 somehow.

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Sleight wrote:
Things we learned:

1) Alex either has lost his memories or was lying. We know he has lied to Jay. We know he attacked Tim. Why would he have animosity against Tim if he COULDN'T REMEMBER!?!? QED: He has been lying consciously. That doesn't mean that he WILLFULLY attacked them, but he has to know. That's why he gave all the tapes to Jay ("burn them") except the one incriminating one. The rest of them are circumstantial at best.

Thus 2) Slendy and Alex somehow communed or some shit during Marble Hornets leading to Seth getting picked off and apparently Brian and Tim. I expect that they are going to "retcon" the Basement of Doom into the burned out hospital's downstairs. Anyone else wanna bet?

3) I really think based on what we saw this season, Alex will admit he is either being possessed or pressured into doing what he does. Why do I think this? The drawings. He can clearly create some sort of cry for help, meaning he isn't doing it completely willfully.

4) Remember all the video with Masky in it? I bet they were supposed to take plce while he was locked up. A time lapse of him in his mask gets you the scene where he twists around. The third mask on Seth explains the one mask picture we haven't seen yet. Hoody is Brian. Meaning...

4a) Alex is ToTheArk, trying to get Jay to save him or the rest of the cast is and they have been stealing tapes and everything from Alex forever. because NOTHING in this show is as straight forward as one would guess it leads me to my grand-daddy conclusion.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The End of MH: Alex has a moment of freedom, begs Jay to kill him. Jay complies. The rest of MH disappears now that they are free of their Slendery torment. Jay's final video is twisted, painful thing where he basically has PTSD and admits he doesn't know what will happen with TO.


Cheers!


1. In Alex's defense, Tim DID try to kill him on several occasions before the attack (assuming that's Alex's blood in the house we first met "Masky")
2/3. That being said, I believe Alex takes orders from Slendy out of fear (Hence the drawings). In Entry 50 you can read "ALWAYS WATCHING" on one of his drawings.
4. People identified Tim as Masky based on the Totheark videos. Plus, this whole theory is thrown out the window by Extraction which pretty much proves Tim is a part of TTA. Since Brian went missing during filming of Marble Hornets I'm inclined to assume he escaped before Jay started watching the tapes. (That and the interview with Tim)

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WHAT THE FUCK is the creepy noise at 5:32ish?

Also, interesting to note the lack of (X) symbols anywhere.
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Has anybody brought up this:

Where is Sarah?

*DUN DUN DUUUUUUN!*

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tijde wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK is the creepy noise at 5:32ish?

Also, interesting to note the lack of (X) symbols anywhere.


I've been trying to figure that out too. The only thing I can hear is muffled screaming. Sad

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tijde wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK is the creepy noise at 5:32ish?


It's the sounds of when you go to Slendyworld. . .muahahahaha!

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I have a feeling that we'll see Brian alive still in the present.

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I haven't been reading through the hundreds of new pages that've shown up over the past few weeks. Is there any official reason as to why slenderman is after Alex/Tim/Jay? Sorry, I just really don't feel like searching the threads

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Camero wrote:
Biohazard80 wrote:
Nex wrote:
lawlmarcus wrote:
Biohazard80 wrote:
Spoot wrote:
Nex wrote:
Camero wrote:


Indeed, how do we know that what we watched in season 1 was a series of tapes carefully selected by Alex so that we'd think he was just an innocent victim?




That's absolutely brilliant.
You just won the internet as far as I'm concerned.
Agreed. As I stated earlier, this blew my mind so much.


This holds very well for 2 reasons:
1. Why couldn't Alex just burn the videos himself?
2. Alex still has this tape, which if he was so afraid of Slendy, than why the FUCK would he keep it?


A lot of people in this thread seem to be operating under the belief that Alex asked Jay to burn the tapes.
Watch Introduction again.
Alex was planning on burning the tapes, but Jay convinced him to give them to him instead.
Doesn't discount the theory, just getting facts straight.


I can't speak for my fellows, but I know Alex didn't ask Jay to burn them. And I don't know how you got that impression from this quote tree.

Either way, the theory is still valid. Alex could have very well given Jay certain tapes while keeping the rest for himself.


I realize my mistake but the question of why Alex kept this tape still stands


He kept the tape of him killing Bruce, too. I doubt that he ever expected Jay to get his hands on either of them. He may just not destroy the tapes because his mind is so shot that it's the only way he can remember what he's been doing.

Regardless, I stand by my theory--if he withheld THIS tape from Jay, there's good reason to believe it isn't the only tape he kept. To me, then, it seems pretty likely that the tapes he picked were deliberately selected to craft a "story" of innocence that Jay would eat right up.

The man's a film director, after all, he's more than used to picking out just the right footage to tell the story he wants.


I was actually agreeing with you're statement. This does, however, imply that there's something "special" about Jay. Not only was Jay spared (as far as we know) but Alex felt the need to tell him that he was leaving and that there was "something" on the tapes. As evil as Alex is looking right now, there must be a reason he's doing this. Maybe he's trying to get Jay to take his place as Slendy's servant?

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DaMangaka wrote:
tijde wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK is the creepy noise at 5:32ish?


It's the sounds of when you go to Slendyworld. . .muahahahaha!

"It's A Tall World After All."

But on-topic... Does this sound like a usual sort of MH audio distortion? I'm absolutely horrid at discerning audio stuff.
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RazENyter wrote:
I haven't been reading through the hundreds of new pages that've shown up over the past few weeks. Is there any official reason as to why slenderman is after Alex/Tim/Jay? Sorry, I just really don't feel like searching the threads

If there is one, it won't be in the threads.

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tijde wrote:
DaMangaka wrote:
tijde wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK is the creepy noise at 5:32ish?


It's the sounds of when you go to Slendyworld. . .muahahahaha!

"It's A Tall World After All."

But on-topic... Does this sound like a usual sort of MH audio distortion? I'm absolutely horrid at discerning audio stuff.


All I know is that my mother complained about "It's that creepy series of yours again, right? *insert rage face* "

But it sounded less like screams and more like something bubbly.
At least, I'm talking about the lapse from between the 1st Slendy-rape (with Brian leaning on the wall) to when Brian is looking to Alex. You know, the Black screen of doom?

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