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SoItBegins
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 		Goldeneye
New puzzle, got nothing.
Well nothing so far, other than that the Theorem has exactly 26 letters in it.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:20 am
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Kawikap
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I don't feel so bad about being called a 'cheater' last week now that M has called out his own friends for not playing fair!


PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:55 am
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HS
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 		Once you figure out what kind of thing this is, you'll need to know which version.

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Pick leaving Q out, not J


Another hint:
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The text gives you the key


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SoItBegins
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 		Yep. Got everything except the key now. I've tried

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CRYPTOGRAPHERS, JAMESBOND, GOLDENEYE, COOKIEDOUGH, and CHEAT with no success.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:07 am
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scooter22
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SoItBegins wrote:
Yep. Got everything except the key now. I've tried

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CRYPTOGRAPHERS, JAMESBOND, GOLDENEYE, COOKIEDOUGH, and CHEAT with no success.


Well, M does say that
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"The key to doing well..."


PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:51 am
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paramis
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 		Goldeneye
I've got it I think
I'm getting it, I think, but I've got some jibberish in the middle that I think has to do with my grid or how I'm using it.
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My grid is

SNEAK
IBCDF
GHJLM
OPRTU
VWXYZ

And I get something like

Licence to kills da xp person

If my grid is correct then I end up with to different column runs and one row run which wikipedia tells me to skip up or down or left or right. So some of my letter pairs are interpretations. Can someone tell me if my grid is correct? And if it is, how do you use JC, EN, TD?


PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:19 am
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caf
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 		Re: Goldeneye
I've got it I think
paramis wrote:
I'm getting it, I think, but I've got some jibberish in the middle that I think has to do with my grid or how I'm using it.


You seem REALLY close and are using the grid (basically) correctly. Just two or three small mistakes that would matter.

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One of your deciphered pairs is wrong. Another has the two letters flipped. You also look to be missing the last two letters, although that might have just been in your post.


Also recall
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X's or Q's are sometimes treated special


It's a slightly hard phrase to parse even once you have it, which makes it seem more like gibberish. Googling helped.

(I often check things with an automated solver when human error's so easy.)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:06 am
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SoItBegins
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 		I got it! Now, I need to get back to work on my own puzzle submission for TMT.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:03 am
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Cougar DravenModerator
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 		Hi, kids. I'm back.

Interestingly enough, I had a good portion of it right without even decoding the strings.

I should have had it entirely from the text. Oh well.

This is an excellent puzzle.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:23 am
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Adventurik
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 		Not sure what to do with this:
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xpers only


PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:39 pm
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The Baffled King
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Adventurik wrote:
Not sure what to do with this:
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xpers only


Here is an important fact about
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FairPlay ciphers: they aren't well suited to double letters.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:27 pm
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Guest
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 		I've been thinking ever since I started solving M's Theorems that
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Playfair ciphers
would come up at some point, and this week was the week. A good puzzle, but I think he missed a couple of golden (or goldeneye? Laughing ) opportunities for Bond references. Since M runs TMT and M is James Bond's boss, I would have expected some reference to that. Also, he could have hinted that
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Q was the letter left out of the Playfair grid by making reference to the Bond character Q, writing something like "when an agent is out in the field, with no Q around to help..."


But perhaps the reason he didn't is because the puzzle is more about the N64 video game than about the novels or movies.

Anyway, an enjoyable puzzle. Stay puzzly, my friends!

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magicrock
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 		GOLDENEYE
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I got: LI CE NS ET OK IL LS LA PX PE RS ON LY
this looks like: License to kill slapx personly
slapx is gibberish and I'd like the last two letters to be "al" for "personal".

But, I'm used to not getting what I want.
Any ideas to stear me right?

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Cougar DravenModerator
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 		Spoilered your thing there.

And perhaps you should look on Wikipedia and see if there are any rules concerning this particular cipher.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:30 pm
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magicrock
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 		I found a wiki site about rules and seemed to be applying them correctly.

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I'm getting "License to kill S LA PX PE RS only".


I even anagramed that middle part with no sensible luck.

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