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Mariolee
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tijde wrote:
So, Jay says in the beginning that Alex never really cared about Marble Hornets. True? Or Jay making possibly faulty assumptions again?


You're misinterpreting what he said. He was only talking about the Brian incident. Alex never actually wanted to film a scene with Brian there, only to get rid of him.

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Re: typos and earlier posts.. who's Tharol? >_<

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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
tijde wrote:
So, Jay says in the beginning that Alex never really cared about Marble Hornets. True? Or Jay making possibly faulty assumptions again?

Dude. Was the film project ever that appealing?

To me? Lolno. But I'm just not convinced the whole thing was faked from the start. Some films really are just that bad.
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My first viewing, I was freaking out too much when Alex pulled the gun, but his whole speech to Jay is a actually pretty revealing. He regrets giving Jay the tapes still, and he admitted it just before he was about to kill them. If Alex was 100% bad to the core, I feel like he wouldn't have said that, or the part about him not wanting to involve Jessica.

All of that makes me think Alex's actions aren't always his own.

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Oh god i just realized

Since tim is living semi normally outside of his masked ventures, did he even know HOW his leg got broken?

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SecretPerson wrote:
That's exactly what I was thinking. The blood in the sink supports that he could've killed someone.

This is actually a really good point; before this entry I had always thought that the blood in the sink was the result of someone being slendysick, but it could easily be the blood of a dying victim as well. Here's what I thought:

A deranged Alex shot someone and injured them fatally. Thinking his victim was as good as dead, he fled the house (the shot could've attracted unwanted attention), while said person was still very much alive and painfully stumbled towards the sink in the bathroom (where we can see a trail of blood in the floor during entry #16), and due to internal bleeding, started coughing his lungs (and blood) out till they succumbed to their injuries and died.

Two problems I found with this theory though: What happened to the body? Did the Operator dispose of it like he did with Bruce? Or did Alex come back for it later?

There's also the color of the blood. If it's a testament of something that happened years ago, the blood shouldn't be red, it should be brownish. I'm not a doctor, but once I had an accident with a glass window and the blood that remained on the walls turned brownish after a few hours, so I think this applies to all kinds of blood. Of course, this could be an OOG mistake, as the guys weren't going to use real blood...

Still, definitely an interesting point.

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Has anyone transcribed the audio from when Alex was holding the gun on them? Everyone was talking at once, I couldn't hear what they were all saying.

Also... there's something that's been bugging me for a while.

If Brian survived the events way back in Entry #51 (and if he's Hoodie, then he did), do we have any evidence that the Operator is evil? Could it be that he's an okay guy (or at least neutral), and Alex has been the primary villain of the series all along?

Think about it: The assumption was that Alex was "feeding" people to the Operator, but the Operator has had loads of opportunities to gobble up/murder the entire MH cast.

Seriously, he's had every major character Tranced and at his mercy at least once, and that's just in the events we've seen on camera... but all he's done is erase a few pertinent memories and catch-and-release.

We assumed that Tim chased them out of the hotel in Entry #33 because the Operator was "about to attack," and we also assumed that the Operator had snatched away Jessica... but he'd already just waltzed into Jay's and Jessica's hotel rooms and tranced them both right before #27... and they were still there.

So, if he's eating people or abducting them or whatever, why would he go into their hotel rooms, erase their memories, then just go away and leave them there for weeks, then just decide to come back later? It doesn't fit.

Ergo, something else is going on.

The Operator is playing something way more intricate than anything the Slender Man ever pulled.

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Mariolee wrote:
tijde wrote:
So, Jay says in the beginning that Alex never really cared about Marble Hornets. True? Or Jay making possibly faulty assumptions again?


You're misinterpreting what he said. He was only talking about the Brian incident. Alex never actually wanted to film a scene with Brian there, only to get rid of him.


He's a guy who makes one-sentence long nonsense posts across multiple threads that have only enough sense in them to make you try and figure out what he's saying. You'll meet him eventually, probably, or just go through threads and ctrl+f for his name.

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FossilizedSauce wrote:
My first viewing, I was freaking out too much when Alex pulled the gun, but his whole speech to Jay is a actually pretty revealing. He regrets giving Jay the tapes still, and he admitted it just before he was about to kill them. If Alex was 100% bad to the core, I feel like he wouldn't have said that, or the part about him not wanting to involve Jessica.

All of that makes me think Alex's actions aren't always his own.
Yeah, you're definitely right.

To further prove that, remember the time he's walking in the forest and whispering "Don't follow me.. don't follow me.. don't follow me." He knew he was being followed by Bruce, and he knew that if it continued that Bruce would end up dead. Same can be said when he tried to keep Jessica from getting involved.

I think that there's a good part in Alex somewhere, deep down, still trying to help his friends. However, whatever is going on with the Operator is making Alex a complete psychopath. Maybe there's some kind of internal fight between him and the Operator going on over who possesses his own body?
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Mariolee
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Spades Slick wrote:
Mariolee wrote:
tijde wrote:
So, Jay says in the beginning that Alex never really cared about Marble Hornets. True? Or Jay making possibly faulty assumptions again?


You're misinterpreting what he said. He was only talking about the Brian incident. Alex never actually wanted to film a scene with Brian there, only to get rid of him.


He's a guy who makes one-sentence long nonsense posts across multiple threads that have only enough sense in them to make you try and figure out what he's saying. You'll meet him eventually, probably, or just go through threads and ctrl+f for his name.


Are you describing Tharol to me? I think you replied to the wrong post buddy.

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I'll read the thread in a second. First notes:
>Masky confirmed for good guy, imo.
>A couple "where's Waldo" moments, not sure if I saw anything. I'll rewatch once I read the thread.
>Tim acting normal might indicate he retains full concious thought as Masky, meaning Masky would be a lot closer to sane then many thought.
>A lot of things were confirmed this entry, maybe even the bullet casing. Still wonder what was in Jessica's safe, but that's pretty much confirmed for Herring.
>The image/audio when Jay attacked TO-Can anybody frame by frame it, and/or analyze the sound?
>A lot of the ship theories just went up in credibility. Jay's not anywhere near as clueless or reckless as he was before.
>Alex is completely, undeniably confirmed for evil.
>Where was Hoodie during all of this?

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Mariolee
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Sylocat wrote:
Has anyone transcribed the audio from when Alex was holding the gun on them? Everyone was talking at once, I couldn't hear what they were all saying.

Also... there's something that's been bugging me for a while.

If Brian survived the events way back in Entry #51 (and if he's Hoodie, then he did), do we have any evidence that the Operator is evil? Could it be that he's an okay guy (or at least neutral), and Alex has been the primary villain of the series all along?

Think about it: The assumption was that Alex was "feeding" people to the Operator, but the Operator has had loads of opportunities to gobble up/murder the entire MH cast.

Seriously, he's had every major character Tranced and at his mercy at least once, and that's just in the events we've seen on camera... but all he's done is erase a few pertinent memories and catch-and-release.

We assumed that Tim chased them out of the hotel in Entry #33 because the Operator was "about to attack," and we also assumed that the Operator had snatched away Jessica... but he'd already just waltzed into Jay's and Jessica's hotel rooms and tranced them both right before #27... and they were still there.

So, if he's eating people or abducting them or whatever, why would he go into their hotel rooms, erase their memories, then just go away and leave them there for weeks, then just decide to come back later? It doesn't fit.

Ergo, something else is going on.

The Operator is playing something way more intricate than anything the Slender Man ever pulled.


The Operator seems to be physically unable for some reason to kill these people himself, so what he does is he manipulates them so that they kill each other. That's what this seems to be all about in the end: The Operator just wants to erase his tracks, and the easiest way to do that is by letting everyone kill each other. Of course, this theory is undermined by the fact that Jay has shown Slendy to virtually everyone.

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The thing about 29 that's confusing is that the blood was still wet. I'm not sure if we take it as a mistake on their part or what, but the blood would be tacky and brown, not bright and red, after the first few hours. Jay was already peeing down his leg in terror and gone from the woods when Alex off'ed Bruce.

Unless that was *Alex's* footage...

And am I the only one wondering why Jessica was Tim-Coughing when she went into the hotel?

The more I watch 52 though, the more I"m starting to think Alex was at times an unwitting Slendy puppet, but was never a good guy to begin with. he had that fear induced "If I just kill everyone I'll be fine!" giggle madness.


Either or, Worth the wait!

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Wow... just, wow.

Recently, I've seen a lot of people attempt to turn on Marble Hornets. I'm not going to name names, but between the Mythos section on this board and Tumblr, I've seen some unflattering statements made. This entry just shut them all down.

Seriously, I'm so impressed right now. I can't believe how much this series has progressed. That was an incredible season finale. It became immediately clear that this was going to be the last video for awhile, and when I realized this, I knew we were in for one hell of a ride. The memory gap, Rosswood Park, the satchel, the hotel, the safe... it all was effectively wrapped up... and yet a whole new set of questions must be asked.

What the hell are TTA's true motives? Tim absolutely saved Jay and Jessica's lives. I had the biggest smile on my face when he crept up behind Alex. So, we can safely say that he is against Alex and The Operator. I'm not sure whether he's necessarily on Jay's side, but it's more of a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" type deal. TTA have an ulterior motive, and are seemingly willing to do whatever it takes to reach their goal. We've seen them act hostile towards Jay (Brian's house, the hotel) which leads me to believe his well-being isn't their top priority. The question here is, what is top priority? Revenge against Alex? Destroying The Operator? Both?

And while we're on the topic, WHAT THE FUCK TIM. My brain just shut down when he walked out in his plain attire. I was practically screaming for Jay to approach him, but I suppose that'd just be too easy. I thought his memory could have been wiped as well, but we saw him attack Jay in Masky mode in the hotel... it doesn't add up. And yet, despite the madness of the last two years? He's just strolling down the street, smoking a cigarette, haters gonna hate. Such a good cliffhanger.

Is Alex still alive? I would say absolutely. We heard the gun go off, but that doesn't mean it hit anyone. It definitely didn't kill Tim. I don't think Alex is truly a bad guy. He's definitely an antagonist, but a sympathetic one. Obviously, we don't have all the answers here, but I feel as if he isn't doing this on his own accord. I don't think he's been brainwashed, but The Operator has done something to set this chain of events. I think Alex just wants this to all come to an end so that he can return to normalcy, my biggest piece of evidence being the glimpse we got of his time with Amy. Alex did something to Brian and Tim whilst shooting Marble Hornets. For whatever reason, this put The Operator on the back-burner. But it didn't do this permanently, and so Alex is being forced to do terrible things again. He doesn't like hurting people, and hopes to avoid doing it. This is shown during the famous Bruce entry, where he tries to tell Jay not to follow him. He doesn't want to kill him. We also see this in 52. Alex is frustrated that Jessica got involved, because that's one more mess he has to clean up. It's not something he wants to do, but unfortunately he must do it.

Going back to what I was originally saying here, there's a reason that this is always held as the Slenderman series. I love all of the fantastic work the other series are doing, but no one nails it quite like Troy, Joseph and Tim. I have never been this immersed in a fucking TV show, let alone a web series. I would like to say congratulations on another incredible season. You've had me on the edge of my seat since the first entry, and I literally cannot wait for season three. Brofist.

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Um, before I begin. . .

HOLY SHIT! DID JAY TACKLED DOWN THE OPERATOR?! BEST VIDEO ON THE SERIES EVER

Never mind that, Best entry on a Slendy video EVER

Then again, as somebody mentioned earlier, I kind of expected an entry like this. This doesn't mean I am not happy with it. I actually think we needed this sort of entry to tie some loose bits while leading us to Season 3

To those saying that Jay is OoC by tackling Slendy The Operator, imagine yourselves on his place: We begin the video with him having a horrible look (eyebags, terrible hair do, pale even), his best friend wants to kill him, people has been chasing him, he doesn't know if Tim/Masky will help or rape him not, he wants to get out. . . Suddenly, his only ally is about to be raped attacked and you see the "should be" attacker. What would you do? I guess by this point Jay is so tired/angry/frustrated, he says "fuck this!" and tackles him. I guess he has grown (as mentioned) but tired and angry at all this. I guess if he had a gun himself, he would have shot it.

And now, I guess Season 3 would be, not only finding Jessica and Tim, but the reunion of the Marble Hornets staff. It's been :

*Season 1 - Alex poofs, Jay goes to look for him
*Season 2 - Jay doesn't trust Alex, wants to find WTF happened
*Season 3 - Jay now needs to find the MH cast to save them from Alex

Alex might be a 'host' but I think he's too corrupted by the Operator or, just like Alex when he tackled the Op, too tired himself to keep up. He just to end it, in any way possible. In other words, Jay may be becoming the new Alex, and TTA is warning him not to. It's a vice circle here. . .

The only one benefited here is the Operator, who noms noms on their souls, regardless of how f*cked up they are.

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