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pravado
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AcidicParadigm wrote:
Alright, first-time poster, here. My little idea as to what is going on:

Alex is bringing people to The Operator in order to get rid of them for a certain purpose. The last person he gets rid of is Brian. Tim becomes aware of what Alex is doing after Seth has disappeared, and when Brian is brought to the demolished school, he follows the two. However, he was not preparing to witness TO, and is taken off-guard; he collapses and goes into Slendy-sickness, and Brian finds him. Brian is then taken by Slendy. Alex believes that Slendy has taken both, but somehow Tim escapes.

Tim becomes Masky in order to hide his identity and combat Alex secretely. If he is TTA, he is probably giving Jay information in order for Jay to find out about how unstable Alex truly is. Obviously, Tim cannot just go up to Jay and tell him that his friend is a psychopath, so he is trying to nudge Jay in the right direction in order to try to eventually help each other against Alex.

Alex tells Jay to meet him at the school, where Brian was taken. Tim is lying in wait to save Jay, his future partner, but Alex tries to officially take him out of the picture by breaking his leg. Due to all the action, Alex decided to not kill Jay at that time. In between then and Entry #52, Alex is just humoring Jay and trying to see if he can spare him by avoiding him. However, Jay persists and digs deeper into the mystery, showing Alex kill Bruce and lead Brian to his memory-wipe (as the main idea here is that Hoody is Brian; perhaps he was told what happened to him by Tim?). Now that Jay had persisted, Alex was convinced he had another job to do and clean up any witnesses. Tim found out about it and, alarmed, went to save Jay and Jess. He succeeded: I believe the gunshot was Tim shooting Alex. In an outrage, Slender Man attacked Tim, but was unable to do so; I believe it may have something to do with Tim's mask, but I can definitely be wrong.

So, TO went to Jay and Jessica to memory wipe them out of vengeance. It worked. However, TO (the REAL main antagonist, not Alex) is now back at large along with Alex, and Tim came back to the hotel to get Jessica out of harm's way. Deciding that Jay must be his ally, he gives the combination of the safe to Jay as a sort of "see for yourself"-kind of deal. The reason why Tim is acting normal isn't significant; he's not always acting peculiar, I reckon.

That's my idea.


the abandoned building from 35 and the hospital from 51 are not the same (it's not a school).

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AcidicParadigm
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pravado wrote:
AcidicParadigm wrote:
Alright, first-time poster, here. My little idea as to what is going on:

Alex is bringing people to The Operator in order to get rid of them for a certain purpose. The last person he gets rid of is Brian. Tim becomes aware of what Alex is doing after Seth has disappeared, and when Brian is brought to the demolished school, he follows the two. However, he was not preparing to witness TO, and is taken off-guard; he collapses and goes into Slendy-sickness, and Brian finds him. Brian is then taken by Slendy. Alex believes that Slendy has taken both, but somehow Tim escapes.

Tim becomes Masky in order to hide his identity and combat Alex secretely. If he is TTA, he is probably giving Jay information in order for Jay to find out about how unstable Alex truly is. Obviously, Tim cannot just go up to Jay and tell him that his friend is a psychopath, so he is trying to nudge Jay in the right direction in order to try to eventually help each other against Alex.

Alex tells Jay to meet him at the school, where Brian was taken. Tim is lying in wait to save Jay, his future partner, but Alex tries to officially take him out of the picture by breaking his leg. Due to all the action, Alex decided to not kill Jay at that time. In between then and Entry #52, Alex is just humoring Jay and trying to see if he can spare him by avoiding him. However, Jay persists and digs deeper into the mystery, showing Alex kill Bruce and lead Brian to his memory-wipe (as the main idea here is that Hoody is Brian; perhaps he was told what happened to him by Tim?). Now that Jay had persisted, Alex was convinced he had another job to do and clean up any witnesses. Tim found out about it and, alarmed, went to save Jay and Jess. He succeeded: I believe the gunshot was Tim shooting Alex. In an outrage, Slender Man attacked Tim, but was unable to do so; I believe it may have something to do with Tim's mask, but I can definitely be wrong.

So, TO went to Jay and Jessica to memory wipe them out of vengeance. It worked. However, TO (the REAL main antagonist, not Alex) is now back at large along with Alex, and Tim came back to the hotel to get Jessica out of harm's way. Deciding that Jay must be his ally, he gives the combination of the safe to Jay as a sort of "see for yourself"-kind of deal. The reason why Tim is acting normal isn't significant; he's not always acting peculiar, I reckon.

That's my idea.


the abandoned building from 35 and the hospital from 51 are not the same (it's not a school).


Woops. :/

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TheCrimsonKnight
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Geneaux486 wrote:
TheCrimsonKnight wrote:
Blinus wrote:
Zebez wrote:
So um, about that weird ass tree in Tim's back yard. Wat.


I wanted to know about that too! I was afraid to ask because I thought I'd sound dumb, like it was obvious to everyone else.

It looks like, erm, bottles on branches?


Tim is a mean drunk. That explains Masky.


Heh, that's how I explain J's pre-enttry 37 tweets.

The only thing I thought was odd about this entry was that J seems pretty sure Alex is still alive, even though that gun went off and we know for a fact that Tim walked away from that scuffle alive. So... yeah.


He probably thought something like "It couldnīt have been that easy". That, and no reports of a dead glasses-wearing bastard in the woods.

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Foood
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AcidicParadigm wrote:
Alex is bringing people to The Operator in order to get rid of them for a certain purpose. The last person he gets rid of is Brian. Tim becomes aware of what Alex is doing after Seth has disappeared, and when Brian is brought to the demolished school, he follows the two.


I like the idea that there's a theme of Tim following Alex whenever he brings people out into the middle of nowhere.

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DandA
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 		Sorry if this is has been dealt with, but I don't really have the time to sift through 20 some odd pages.

Anyone know where I can find a transcription of Alex's rant? I managed to catch bits and pieces, like "I never should've gave you those tapes in the first place," but I think that theres more there.

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 		What's bothering me is that Alex said that he "could have done this (shoot them) anytime he wanted to." if that's the case then why wait until now? He said himself that he didn't want Jessica involved yet he waited to kill Jay. The longer jay was around Jessica , the more likely she would have become involved. So if Alex could have killed them anytime he wanted and he didn't want Jessica involved, why did he wait so long to do it.

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Yuki
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12th wrote:
Wow. Great entry, obviously.

First thoughts:
1. Teleport deniers just need to drop it. There's teleportation.


Or, y'know, we could just think it looked like Jay held himself up on his arms then they collapsed on him.




I personally don't think it looked like Masky was already waiting in the mill area; it looked like he'd come from the stairs.

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Geneaux486
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DandA wrote:
Sorry if this is has been dealt with, but I don't really have the time to sift through 20 some odd pages.

Anyone know where I can find a transcription of Alex's rant? I managed to catch bits and pieces, like "I never should've gave you those tapes in the first place," but I think that theres more there.


"I know you took the tape from my apartment, the one with Brian on it, and I know you've been following me to. I had a lot of chances to do this. I didn't want Jessica involved, that's why I told her I found Amy, that's your fault. When I gave you those tapes I told you never to mention them again, I thought that implied not sharing them with the world. I never should have given them to you in the first place, I should have just burned them when I had the-*surprise tim attack*"

That's probably not exact, but I think it's pretty close. Listened to it multiple times to get it all.

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What's bothering me is that Alex said that he "could have done this (shoot them) anytime he wanted to." if that's the case then why wait until now? He said himself that he didn't want Jessica involved yet he waited to kill Jay. The longer jay was around Jessica , the more likely she would have become involved. So if Alex could have killed them anytime he wanted and he didn't want Jessica involved, why did he wait so long to do it.


He may have been undecided as to whether or not he really wanted to kill J, until J broke into his apartment twice and started following him. Way Alex was talking sounded like that had been the last straw. That quiver in Alex's voice made it sound like he felt like he was at the end of his rope. Alex has been corrupted by the Operator, I think, but some small part of him was probably still resisting these murderous tendencies. Personally I still think Alex can be saved.

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 		If Tim is TTA, and Alex is the ark, then it would seem that Jay finally led totheark to the ark.

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 		Forget trying to figure out what happened and what's going to happen next. I'm just proud of Jay for being, well, brave, for once. Seriously, when cornered, he didn't try to run, he just ran straight for Slendy and tried to tackle him head-on. Jay may be a rotten ninja, but the man has balls.

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 		I find it sort of funny that Jay said he was going to make sure Jessica got out safely, and even though she did in the end, he booted it haha.

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Blinus wrote:
George G wrote:
^^ Read about bottle trees here: http://www.squidoo.com/bottletrees


Thanks!

So Tim's trying to ward off evil spirits!


Holy crap; I never knew about that. That actually might go towards explaining why Tim is normal... He's using the bottle tree to keep the Operator's influence away from him.

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Blank_Zero
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Zarggg wrote:
Blinus wrote:
George G wrote:
^^ Read about bottle trees here: http://www.squidoo.com/bottletrees


Thanks!

So Tim's trying to ward off evil spirits!


Holy crap; I never knew about that. That actually might go towards explaining why Tim is normal... He's using the bottle tree to keep the Operator's influence away from him.


I don't know about you, but wearing a China Doll mask, sending cryptic messages via YouTube, Stalking people while they sleep in their own home, etc is very "Normal".

Also, the Bottle Trees are VERY rare, even in the rural south.

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Spades Slick
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q_3 wrote:
If Tim is TTA, and Alex is the ark, then it would seem that Jay finally led totheark to the ark.


OOG Information:
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Alex was confirmed not to be the ARK at the end of season one, his middle initial isn't R, etc. etc.


@Tim and the Bottle Tree: I think it's been thought for a while that the mask was a method used to ward off slendy, or slendersickness. I've always thought that was at least one important reason behind it, considering he goes into coughing fits with it off.

Also, did anyone get a majorly cool "im a badass 1940s noir detective" vibe from tim as he lit up that cigarette? I think it might've been because of his crowning moment of awesome, with alex, but it just seemed so fucking cool to me. Tim's been my favorite character for a longgg time now.

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Geneaux486
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swenson wrote:
I'm just proud of Jay for being, well, brave, for once.


J's always struck me as a pretty brave dude. He constantly put himself in dangerous situations in seasons 1 and 2, and he did it all because he wanted to help his friend.

On a side note, when J said "I'm going to make sure Jessica gets away no matter what I have to do" my first thought was "Oh shit, he's gonna have to kill Alex, isn't he"

EDIT: Also, Tim was a decent ways from that tree, can we even be sure it was his property? Troy may have seen it and thought it'd be a good thing to have in the shot.

EDIT 2: Also, we know Tim doesn't live in that area, hence why J wanted to find out what he was doing there, which makes the bottle tree as being his doing less likely.

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