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Glass Heaven - Continued...

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I was never good with Nimpik, is there a message in this email?

The first letter of each line was:

isoiibwhn tcwaeoe Wdgb ria welpibonsoii Ibsint h tb fiyaiw

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I don't think so. From what I've been gathering in the last several emails I've had with Ore (which I'll have to post later), he wants us to translate the phrase we're going to be sending to Will.

"oraetde dajdio"

-et makes things plural
-di is present tense with he/she/it

I'm still sifting through the old thread to find all the Nimpik we have.

Edit: "daj" is a verb, apparently, and one that I know showed up in the Paromnetiara. "Ora" is the ending for the three names that mean fire, earth, and water (Kora, Mora, and Fora), but what it's actual translation is, I don't know.

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Apologies for the double post so soon, but I had the opportunity to post the emails I've been getting from Ore.

Skipping over one email that didn't have a whole lot of significance, here's the next one:

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...or I failed already ;-; I'm Romrapaara.

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Can we coordinate here, rather than email?

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Sure thing! I just wanted to make sure I reached everyone who wasn't paying attention to the thread.

Okay, more Ore emails as I worked to translate the phrase:

My first guess was "he does not follow the elements", which was quite wrong, it seems.

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New post, new logo.
Post: Scatter Light Protocol
Links here: Normi?

[bluesylvia]

Hey, I've never played Glass House before but I love any ARG with language so I think I wanna give this one a try...

So the phrase we need to decode is "oraetde dajdio"?

crazy lady rant incoming, feel free to skip to the bottom
Ore seems to hint that there could also be a suffix -o, leading us to oraetde dajdi-o.
If Nimpik works the same way as English does, then we can have multiple prefixes/suffixes, possibly leading to oraetde daj-di-o. According to the Wiki di is for a singular 2nd-person pronoun (I'll use "he" for simplicity's sake since this is probably talking about Will).

This means we have oraetde daj he o.
Oraet is the plural of ora, which seem to be related to elements (fire, earth, water)
Ore said that daj is similar to lead or guide. What about command?
Elements de command(?)/lead/guide he o

Ore said suffix -o has only been seen on "certain kinds of words." Looking at the vocab list, however, I don't see anything. Maybe it's hidden somewhere in the old thread. I've been wandering through it but it's a lotta pages...
However, making a guess, the suffix -o *could* maybe possibly I can dream make subject pronouns into objects (he --> him).

Elements de command/guide/lead/throw a parade for him
/crazy lady rant

So perhaps it is something along the lines of "[the] elements [de????] command him"? I don't know, but it seems to me like Nimpik has the same sentence order as English?

Please feel free to tell me I'm way wrong ^^;

EDIT: or maybe pillars instead of elements???

[bluesylvia]

Okay here's where I'm at right now based on everything I could find from the old thread and the Wiki:

Oraet = pl. of ora (adrekka mentioned this in the old thread)
But, at the same time, Oraet = oras is problematic because Ore specifically said "'o' is either on it's own or a prefix," making it seem that the word should be o- raet[de]? According to the Wiki, o- by itself means "without"/a negative prefix.

This could then mean that raetde is a word on its own?
It could also mean that just "ra" is the word with -et being the plural suffix and -de being a suffix for something else.

de = there was "de" as hidden text in an image discovered by andrekka (pg. 53) but I have not seen receive any actual explanation for that.
Ore said for it "...a suitable translation to German
would be the "-te" suffix while not used in the same way as that"
Perhaps by that he's just saying it is a suffix, but isn't used for counting like it is in German??

Daj = something along the lines of to guide or lead, according to Ore

di = he/she/it to add to verbs (i.e. genders verbs?)
o = According to Ore it " modifies the verb" but as to how, I have not found any explanation. In the Wiki it appears with "dumio" and was translated as "live" so perhaps it makes the verb into a command form?

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ETA: Ore made a new post ;p the matter of "oraet dajdio"
So we got a bit on confirmation at the very least...

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Oraet was in fact confirmed to be elements, which is why I didn't proceed with that line of thinking any further. Nice work, though!

I really am stuck with -de. It has been confirmed by that post that it has something to do with numbers, but obviously in this case not the way you write ordinal numbers.

Now, I'd like to compare dajdio to another word I have up on the wiki.

There is a phrase, kemio tasaji, that means find her. It literally means find the girl. If you look down the list, ke is the word meaning to find. So, let's compare.

ke = to find
-mi = suffix for you
-o = ???

I suppose if we read this absolutely literally, it would say you find her.

Look familiar?

daj = similar to lead or guide, I rather like the 'command' thought
-di = suffix for he/she/it
-o = ???

So there's something to compare to.

Side note: When I was looking through the current work on the Paromnetiara, daj was translated as follow. It made sense in the context, but changes the meaning completely if it's some form of lead or guide.

ALSO

There's a new post up, the matter of the keys.

Hints are "makeyourCry" and "theSymbol". My first thoughts were "tower" and "spectrum", both of which I can confirm as incorrect.

How do I know? A nice white box appeared. Oh how I love those white boxes. Save the image and mess with the contrast and you get five letters in our coded alphabet which spell out "wrong".

Last thing, I promise. Bluesylvia, if you want to help with the wiki as you explore the progress made so far, please shoot me a message. I would absolutely love any help I can get on that.

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