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The Official Season 3 Speculation Thread
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punxtr
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Maybe not redemption, but Alex will definitely come under a different light than what has been painted so far.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:45 pm
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Jordan
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onetruepurple wrote

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Anybody else thinking that season 3 will be about Alex's redemption?


Could be, although I personally don't believe Alex is a bad guy, just someone who has lost it big time after all he's experienced at the hand's of The Operator. I'm guessing Amy died either by The Operator's hand or one of his agents and it finally pushed him over the edge after everything else and he views everyone as an agent of The Operator.

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Tharol
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Personal the guy tried kill Jay and Jessica tell for the police think.
Think people are now saying the helpful Masky is not same hotel.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:14 pm
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UncleDark
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It seems to me that Alex is too far gone for redemption at this point. Whatever he's been going through, it's been going on for years, and he's probably past the point of no return.

As to what I expect from season 3...

More info on the relationship between Alex and the Operator, The truth about what was happening on the set of MH, who/what ToTheArk is, and a confrontation between J and Alex.

I don't expect to have the Operator explained. I don't think anyone knows. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Joseph and Troy's Secret Notebook just says: "The Operator: Who the fuck cares what he is? Just make it creepy..."

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Tharol
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Check like Alex sill alive he guy bigger guns in video.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:51 pm
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Star Kindler
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I think the only way that Alex can find redemption at this point is if Redemption Equals Death. The one way I can see Alex finding redemption and not dying in the process and not coming off like a karma houdini is if we find out his more amoral actions were absolutely, positively, and completely out of his control. That he was literally the Operator's puppet. At this point, for me at least, Alex has crossed way too many lines to be a "good" guy again. But these guys are excellent story tellers. Maybe they'll really surprise me.

I really can't see this story ending well. The Operator comes off very much like an eldritch abomination, and, unless there happens to be a superhero in the story, eldritch abominations almost always mean bittersweet endings at the very best. I think that either 1) Jay will find some way to ward off (but not defeat) the Operator and move on with his life and begin picking up the pieces or 2) The last entry will be of Jay as he loses the last bit of control he has over himself as the Operator takes him over completely and/or kills him or 3) Jay tries a last ditch desperate attempt to save Alex and either dies or disappears in the attempt. Someone finds his camera at the site with instructions to upload the video. If the person who uploads the video gets caught in the web of the Operator we might have a sequel hook.

Any way it goes I am definitely looking forward to Season 3.
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FossilizedSauce
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punxtr wrote:
Probably the most favorable theory to have regarding the Operator, just looking back at any entry involving him. Excellent pickup.


(Didn't want to repost the giant and amazing theory because it was on the larger side).

All of what Cutboy said about sucking water out of people fits in nicely with Alex's story from #38 about the plants in the woods growing abnormally fast...

Really digging that idea, great work!

Also regarding Alex, his speech in the last entry of season 2 while holding the gun makes it pretty obvious that everything he does may not be his own will. Excited to see how all of the floating pieces are put together next season!

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BirdieJava
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I think one or more of the main three is going to die. I just can't see them all surviving this kind of story. Also a happy ending seems unlikely at this point.

Alex-
Has crossed the Moral Event Horizon.
He appears to be the source for The Operator getting to people in this world.
Is working with a powerful supernatural entity.


Odds of dying: I'd say about 80%, the only ways I see him living is if they have the good side (Jay and possibly Tim) loose. That might resonate but would it fit the story, perhaps.

Jay-
Pretty helpless by himself and easy to find by all his antagonists. Has for two years stumbled around.
Not used to fighting, especially if he has no cause.
Has pissed of Alex and maybe The Operator himself.

Odds of dying: I'll give Jay a 60% chance. While it'd be a twist to have the last few entries not posted by Jay but a survivor (Jessica, Tim or Alex) would be a twist not sure how well it'd work here. If there is a good ending his odds are bumped down to 30%.

Tim-
Alex has already promised to kill him
He is the most active party against The Operator
He knows things, this could go either way.

Odds of dying: 90%, storywise once Tim reveals what he knows, he becomes more expendable. His track record in fights is one win (#52) one loss (#35) and one forfet (#45). While teaming up with Jay seems to be in the cards, he'd seem overpowered for a sidekick and get awkward fast.

The Operator -
Is after people who are not afraid to fight back.
May have a weak hold on this world.

Odds of dying: 10% He could die but odds are won't. It would almost be godmoding to destroy them and Troseph has shown themselves to be better storytellers than that. Being warded off or temporarily exiled from this plane by having his tethers destoyed, possible but it's also possible that he'll prove too powerful for mere humans and crush them; and we're next on his hit list.

Jessica-
OOG concerns
Vanished for over a year IG and last seen/heard in close proximity to TO.


Odds of dying: 85% if not already dead. She had storyline potental as a live character but at this point she's as useful to the plot dead as alive. It's possible that she might appear but won't be all that important.

Amy-
One appearance
Very close to someone who has a history of sicking The Operator on people.

Odds of dying: 95% if not already dead, unless she's revealed to be Hoody. shoehorning her more into the plot might be awkward. The only way she could be relevent is if Tim were to reveal that he's been in contact with her somehow and she's posting "Help Me" messages. Far more likely is she will be revealed already dead and perhaps some revelation about her death (TO killed her out of jelousy, she was pregnant with Alex's baby.

Hoody-
Many unknowns
Hangs around Masky, biggest target

Odds of dying: 85% Again may know things, but is likely to reveal his/her identity and at least one more bit of information.

Totheark:
Unknown
Has been silent lately
Working against a elderich abomination

Odds of dying: 25%, while mysterious this organization knows a lot of things. It is likely that they will survive what happens to Jay and move on to the next possible soldier in their war against The Operator

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Tharol
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Come on people like post odds there personal.

I think one or more of the main three is going to die. I just can't see them all surviving this kind of story. Also a happy ending seems unlikely at this point. But Jessica and Jay could be sister and brother then Tim gets Jessica making Flyleafs rage join Alex there.

Alex-
Has crossed the Moral Event Horizon. He would have been taping but he tooka bullet in his knee reference.
He appears to be the source for The Operator getting to people in this world.
Is working or being controlled with a powerful supernatural entity.


Odds of dying: I'd say about 90% at end if not already killed.

Jay-
Pretty helpless by himself and easy to find by all his antagonists. Has for two years stumbled around. He constantly goes in the forest and cries like poort boy who just wanted power converteers. Not used to fighting, especially if he has no cause. Has pissed of Alex and maybe The Operator himself plus the possible grapefruit.

Odds of dying: I'll give Jay a 22% chance. While it'd be a twist to have the last few entries not posted by Jay but a survivor (new character) would be a twist not sure how well it'd work here. If there is a good ending his odds are bumped down to 0%. Because someone has to uplaod.

Tim-
Alex has already promised to kill him
He is the most active party against The Operator
He knows things, this could go either way.

Odds of dying: 40%, storywise once Tim reveals what he knows, he becomes more expendable. His track record in fights is one win (#52) one loss (#35) and one forfet (#45). While teaming up with Jay seems to be in the cards, he'd seem overpowered for a sidekick and get awkward fast.
However people cannot prove for he was all those Masked helpers just listed he Masky is pure sexy and ninja skilled.

The Operator -
Is after people who are not afraid to fight back.
May have a weak hold on this world.

Odds of dying: 60% He could die but odds are won't. It would almost be more like banished or he would leave finally speaking "I just wanted to check this worlds life forms but now it s my time leave." The video end.

Jessica-
OOG concerns
Vanished for over a year IG and last seen/heard in close proximity to TO.


Odds of dying: 35% if not already dead. She had storyline potental as a live character but at this point she's as useful to the plot dead as alive. It's possible that she might appear but won't be all that important.

Amy-
One appearance
Very close to someone who has a history of sicking The Operator on people.

Odds of dying: 45% if not already dead, unless she's revealed to be Hoody. shoehorning her more into the plot might be awkward. The only way she could be relevent is if Tim were to reveal that he knows like she lives in far safe place. Fact role will have to played new actress because the girl rumoring was professional model.

Hoody-
Many unknowns
Hangs around Masky, biggest target

Odds of dying: 45% Again may know things, but is likely to reveal his/her identity and at least one more bit of information. Could be gone depending on how many hoodies are in video.

Totheark:
Unknown
Has been silent lately
Working against a elderich abomination

Odds of dying: 16%, while mysterious this organization knows a lot of things. It is likely that they will survive what happens to Jay and move on to the next possible soldier in their war against The Operator. Course my last fun theory is tta is Operator basic playing both parties.

The bottle tree - 100% will be there looking nice people have no idea tree is helping the Operator focus powers.

Seth - Lives 90% because he will never bee in video.

Brian - The 46% killed or captured in the fifty one video.

Sarah - Lives 95% no seen in the video.

Bruce- People there will ne a new Bruce someone got poor guy in the video.

Rocky - He is 92% perecnt know as tobark and is now sleeping people.

Man in woods - Probable 62% he got out woods and got back to hotel.

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morscata12
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Jay does have the new tapes to look through. Alex had kept them as his mini-archive of the MH events, and Jay is going to get curious. I imagine we'll get at least 6 entries out of these tapes. However, I think we'll get a lot more present-day entries in Season 3.

IMO Season 2 was the calm before the storm. Other than getting kicked out of the hotel by Tim and waking up next to the red tower after slee.pnow, Jay wasn't really in danger. ToTheArk was gloating over Alex's fate and laughing at Tim instead of going after Jay. The Operator was nowhere to be seen, and Alex was off the grid. I can't imagine that all these forces are going to stay dormant for much longer.

Jay is starting some serious trouble by following Tim. If Alex is still alive, he's going to be striking back hard at Tim; Jay will get caught in the crossfire if he sticks around. And if Jay starts interacting with Tim, that will definitely provoke TTA into action.

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Tharol
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Check they need to have tta come for video.

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pravado
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"JUN 3 1900, 8:23 PM"
"JULY 10 1999, 6:03 AM"
"AUG 30 1891, 1:00 PM"
"MAY 17 1988, 9:00 AM"
"SEP 4 1991, 10:48 AM"
"JAN 1 1992, 12:00 AM"
"FEB 29 1996, 4:44 AM"
"DEC 31 1999, 11:58 PM"
"MAR 3 1981, 9:42 AM"
"NOV 12 1993, 12:34 AM"
"JUN 6 1944, 9:99 AM"
"APR 4 1991, 6:03 PM."

are what appears in enttry 37 when slendy appears

if anyone wants something new to do, try to crack that code

if i'm correct, the only way that those would be able to appear on that camera is if slendy was actually there causing the distortion, it doesn't look like something you could just edit in (unless of course there is no timestamp, which is most likely how they were able to do it irl)

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Luno
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I think you're right, and it is the Operator causing the date/time changes in #37: mainly because something similar happens to the camera timestamp in Entry 26 when the Operator was definitely there. It happens the last time that Amy focuses on Slendy. First of all, the date and time stamp reads:

4.4. 2010
4 05pm


Normal. But then it briefly changes to

4.4. 2010
0 98pm


and then

4.4. 2010
0 97pm


Before the video whites out.

I'm of the opinion that the screwy timestamp is just another way of showing how TO messes with electronics, rather than there being meaning behind the specific numbers chosen. It would be really cool if the years and dates were important for the story, IMO (like if they were the dates that people disappeared or some such) but unfortunately, I think that if Troseph were going to do something like that, they would have set up more backstory for it earlier on in the series.

I wouldn't totally rule out them being code, but it's not anything I recognise...

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pravado
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i think it's just to show that the operator was actually there. for a long time i thought he was just edited in to scare alex/jay, but the fact that those numbers change signifies he had to be near the camera to make it do that.

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AngryDeepground
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pravado wrote:
"JUN 3 1900, 8:23 PM"
"JULY 10 1999, 6:03 AM"
"AUG 30 1891, 1:00 PM"
"MAY 17 1988, 9:00 AM"
"SEP 4 1991, 10:48 AM"
"JAN 1 1992, 12:00 AM"
"FEB 29 1996, 4:44 AM"
"DEC 31 1999, 11:58 PM"
"MAR 3 1981, 9:42 AM"
"NOV 12 1993, 12:34 AM"
"JUN 6 1944, 9:99 AM"
"APR 4 1991, 6:03 PM."

are what appears in enttry 37 when slendy appears

if anyone wants something new to do, try to crack that code

if i'm correct, the only way that those would be able to appear on that camera is if slendy was actually there causing the distortion, it doesn't look like something you could just edit in (unless of course there is no timestamp, which is most likely how they were able to do it irl)


Wow, good job noticing that.

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