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Tharol
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 		Nice map there.

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EDGECRUSHER
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RustyMuffler wrote:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/169055-new-bane-shirt-and-fire-rises-strike-map-revealed

Why does this ARG not have it's own dedicated forum?


I think it's on the cusp of breaking out, but I'm definitely in for this one.
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Tharol
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 		Check the last posted viral.

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blackfeathers
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 		anybody find it strange that some of the roads in the map lead straight into the ocean? the map designer might have just used a mask layer just to create an illusion of a real map -a prop.

this leads me to believe that there probably isn't that granular or tiny of a detail to clues, if any on it.

edited to add:

a wikipedia map of gotham city shows that the tdkr viral map is the southern part of gotham city.

compare to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotham_City#Geography

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blackfeathers wrote:
anybody find it strange that some of the roads in the map lead straight into the ocean? the map designer might have just used a mask layer just to create an illusion of a real map -a prop.

this leads me to believe that there probably isn't that granular or tiny of a detail to clues, if any on it.

edited to add:

a wikipedia map of gotham city shows that the tdkr viral map is the southern part of gotham city.

compare to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotham_City#Geography

My GF and I have been discussing this and yeah you are likely right.

http://www.chrisroberson.net/uploaded_images/Nolan_Gotham_Map-731238.jpg Mirrors it almost exactly, and was probably used to make the Bane map. The marks may mean somethin.

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mathews512
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 		Not that it helps to decipher anything, but...

A quick look at the marked map shows Gotham Stadium (SW, on Sandy Hook Island), circled directly...Doesn't take too many clicks of the mouse to learn that (SPOILER AHEAD)

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The Gotham City Rogues (AKA Pittsburgh Steelers) football team is featured in the film...wonder if a scene has Bane attacking the stadium...


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Tharol
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 		Check map for Wayne personal.

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Maram
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 		I am so excited to see where all this goes. I feel like this is about to become a full-blown ARG, and if that does happen, I'm glad I'm around to see the beginning of it!

Also, I agree with the notion of checking the barcode on the map to see if anything comes of it. I feel like it is the most likely part of that map to reveal any sort of concrete clues (considering we can't actually visit the strike locations in Gotham City).

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Tharol
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 		Think after holiday some clue.

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blackfeathers
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Maram wrote:

Also, I agree with the notion of checking the barcode on the map to see if anything comes of it. I feel like it is the most likely part of that map to reveal any sort of concrete clues (considering we can't actually visit the strike locations in Gotham City).


the barcode can be re-assembled by copying and pasting the left and right pieces together, which also displays the complete 30 digit number below. but, i suspect it to be a fake for a few reasons:

-barcode apps won't be able to detect any result due to it being a non-consumer-based format if it's authentic. a 30-digit number is plausible for ean-128, code 128 and related standards, however nothing has turned up regarding that. number-to-bars / bars-to-number have not shown any specific pattern. 30 character setsaren't intended to be used for general consumer retail use. the 30 digit number doesn't seem to contain an initial standard number to signify the beginning in any 128 barcode standard i've come across.

- if you search for "our maps have it all" or any related quote of that nature, you'll discover american maps, hammond maps or other maps under the same umbrella... in the "street maps" for all of their collections, but the upc and isbn are of a complete different format meant to be scanned for retail use.

in regards to the map design, i think the underlying street illustration is just an illusion:
-using google maps to find any arbitrary cross street (pairs of streets that should cross) does not show any that exist in real life. purpose: to see if the map was taken from a pre-existing map of a real location.

-using the freeway numbers that exist don't appear to lead to any near-vicinity in real life. one exists in ontario and another in dallas.

-everything is too square for a civil engineer to design the roads in the natural boundaries of the islands/shorelines.
for instance, 2nd street leads to q avenue of the next grid.
streets leading straight to a body of water.

even the sribbled writing looks to be done at separate layers or times. the strike zone writing is a different red hue.

these elements to me point that since much detail has been overlooked in its design, then we shouldn't be expected to look into that granular of detail.

and, if there is something in the map other than the obvious of bane's attack on gotham, further clues should be added that would lead us down its trail.

just my thoughts at this time. Smile

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blackfeathers
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 		forgot to add: i found it odd that the pink colour in the legend is missing a label.

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Tharol
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 		Check your like right personal.

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Aesculapius
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blackfeathers wrote:
Maram wrote:

Also, I agree with the notion of checking the barcode on the map to see if anything comes of it. I feel like it is the most likely part of that map to reveal any sort of concrete clues (considering we can't actually visit the strike locations in Gotham City).


the barcode can be re-assembled by copying and pasting the left and right pieces together, which also displays the complete 30 digit number below. but, i suspect it to be a fake for a few reasons:

-barcode apps won't be able to detect any result due to it being a non-consumer-based format if it's authentic. a 30-digit number is plausible for ean-128, code 128 and related standards, however nothing has turned up regarding that. number-to-bars / bars-to-number have not shown any specific pattern. 30 character setsaren't intended to be used for general consumer retail use. the 30 digit number doesn't seem to contain an initial standard number to signify the beginning in any 128 barcode standard i've come across.

- if you search for "our maps have it all" or any related quote of that nature, you'll discover american maps, hammond maps or other maps under the same umbrella... in the "street maps" for all of their collections, but the upc and isbn are of a complete different format meant to be scanned for retail use.

in regards to the map design, i think the underlying street illustration is just an illusion:
-using google maps to find any arbitrary cross street (pairs of streets that should cross) does not show any that exist in real life. purpose: to see if the map was taken from a pre-existing map of a real location.

-using the freeway numbers that exist don't appear to lead to any near-vicinity in real life. one exists in ontario and another in dallas.

-everything is too square for a civil engineer to design the roads in the natural boundaries of the islands/shorelines.
for instance, 2nd street leads to q avenue of the next grid.
streets leading straight to a body of water.

even the sribbled writing looks to be done at separate layers or times. the strike zone writing is a different red hue.

these elements to me point that since much detail has been overlooked in its design, then we shouldn't be expected to look into that granular of detail.

and, if there is something in the map other than the obvious of bane's attack on gotham, further clues should be added that would lead us down its trail.

just my thoughts at this time. Smile
Not to mention that the barcode itself is likely lifted from a real pocketmap, as someone whom I've discussed this with pointed out that they used a real pocket map as a template (which explains unused colors) and made a composite of sorts with the existing map of Gotham. They think the roads themselves are taken from areas they could find in Google maps (maybe). The only detail I could consider any signifigance is the roads themselves, but most likely the main detail to consider is in fact the most obvious part, which is the markings on the map.

Definitely going to agree, we don't have all the details yet. =)

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thebruce
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 		Quick update: For anyone who has time and knowledge and resources, I've updated the batman wiki with pages for the two viral events since May this year, linked at the side of http://batman.wikibruce.com

As with past content, the website pages ideally should document the content of the sites -- but unlike past events (run by 42, who are not the creators of TDKR trails), I've set them up with 'trail' pages, which should be moreso dedicated to the sequence of events from beginning to end...

So there's:
http://batman.wikibruce.com/The_Fire_Rises for the Bane image reveal trail with
http://batman.wikibruce.com/Thedarkknightrises.com for the website (though it looks like this may be a general hub for all movie-related viral stuff)

And:
http://batman.wikibruce.com/Operation_Early_Bird for the trail outline, with
http://batman.wikibruce.com/Operationearlybird.com for the ticket trail website, though it now redirects to TDKR.com Confused

In short, the trail pages should be outlines of the events, and the website pages more an archive of their content, where possible...

Hope that helps, and that the wiki can be a useful continued resource for the community Smile If you find any wiki spam, feel free to fix it, or contact me or someone else who edits a lot (like Sugarfiend or AutoDecept).
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 		New trailer is up, but i didnt see any clues that could help with the ARG
Click here if u wanna check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NMmr_EwwBOg

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