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Ack... I feel a wall o'text coming on... sorry everyone.

I don't think Evan or Vinnie (if he is Habit-controlled) are evil, that they don't sorrow or care for their friends. I feel they might yet redeem themselves - anything is possible.

Remember the episode of the deer? And the aftermath. Jeff is the first one to reject it, and tries to stop the others. Vinnie rationalizes the event, then goes into a sort of denial. Evan just shrugs it off, like it was nothing.

I think Habit finds his best "tools", the ones who don't resist, because he can give them what they really want, deep down. They may even be partially aware of what's going on but they don't fight it because they're addicted (having a literal Habit, junkie-style) to what they can experience through Habit. For Evan, instead of watching horror movies, playing nightmare creatures he can become one. To never experience powerlessness or fear. For Vinnie, the ability to watch everything, godlike. And maybe to manipulate events to make them more interesting.

They may not want to do these things, may be horrified at the result, but like a compulsive gambler or an alcholic, they can't stop themselves. And they make excuses for their behavior.

However, that doesn't mean that they're gone. Evan, as he and Habit become closer to merging, may have more influence over him than Habit expects. Vinnie could search for the Corenthals himself. We just have to wait and see.

[THmanslayr]

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[cochinosanchez]

Pretty sure this has been asked already, but how did vinnie's half and Jeff's half get uploaded together?

edit: just saw dinorobo's post... Carry on. >_>

[tijde]

[SleepingHellion]

[nyc_jester]

I think Vinny uploaded the videos. We know they're coming from separate sources, and it's been established that Evan knows little about computers. I think we're establishing a timeline where Vinny has already been captured and is being forced to upload the videos by Evan/HABIT. The motivation here is that Jeff is being tortured and HABIT will only end it (I.E. let him "bleed out") once Vinny gets everything edited and posted. And of course, because HABIT is a sick little bunny, he's forcing Vinny to draw out the days between postings to prolong the torture.

[Dyvya]

[TheCuza]

[ObscureReference]

Assuming Jeff is locked in a basement somewhere, I think it'd be in Vinny's best interest to actually not rescue him until he visits Baldpate. (Unless Jeff is is a basement at Baldpate...) As bad as it would be for Jeff, Vinny wouldn't succeed unless HABIT stopped caring about him, which is unlikely. Any rescue is going to be deemed a failure right off the bat. It'd be a suicide mission, without the death and only the bleeding part.

[LegitimatelyTaylor]

Let's look at the locations we have here.

Evan/HABIT and Jeff are at Evan's house.
Vince is presumably driving from his house to Baldpate, unless he's evil.
HOWEVER, the upcoming pool scene will take place at JEFF'S house, right?
So how do Evan/HABIT and the cameraman get all the way over there?

Moreover, let's look at the lyrics we have.

From "The Best Is Yet to Come"...
The "sunshine place" with the "tree of life" is probably the area of Baldpate Mountain from the hidden videos,
particularly "77of76.avi". This is where Evan/HABIT killed Nick, and it features a rather large tree.

From "I Can't Decide", well...

"I'm not a gangster tonight,
Don't wanna be the bad guy,
I'm just a loner baby,
And now you've got in my way.
I can't decide,
Whether you should live or die,
Oh you'll probably go to heaven,
Please don't hang your head and cry.
No wonder why,
My heart feels dead inside,
It's cold and hard and petrified,
Lock the doors and close the blinds,
We're going for a ride."

Sounds like Jeff is gonna have fun.

[TheCuza]

[Ouroborus]

More stuff from ranting on Angora the other day.

Since Habit tacked on his footage at the end of the 24 month video, it tells us that the events of this video happened before that video was uploaded.

I can't find any decent visual clues, but I submit the knife portions of Habits video(in Evan's basement with Bioshock) and Evan walking down the street took place that night.

Putting aside the "vinnie is teh devil" stuff, is it possible the knife-tapping-vinnies-pic footage took place later that night when Habit went and "secured" Vinnie as well?

[ObscureReference]

[Cardnals]

I get the feeling that Vince had no idea that Jeff would get attacked by HABIT/Evan when he went to Evan's and that he only told Jeff that he was reading the emails to keep his spirit up or something along those lines seeing as how depressing it's been for the hybrids lately.