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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2012
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Ouroborus
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Yeah. We need to get some clarification on that.

I originally thought that he was saying that it wasn't the airhorn we heard, but Slendy sirens and Slendy.

But listening to it again, it sorta sounds like he's saying that he blew the airhorn, which caused the Rake to come after him. So he ran into the woods and then Slendy showed up with his siren and scared the Rake off.


Which begs the question, why did Slendy intervene when Jeff was in danger, but not Vinnie or Evan?


(assuming that is what Jeff was saying went down)

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That's how I interpretted it, Ouro.

Maybe he didn't intervene for Evan because he knew he could take him, and didn't intervene for Vin because he knew Jeff would blow the air horn. Jeff didn't have any way to bail himself out, and probably would have died if Slendykins didn't scare off the Rake, and he needed him to be alive.

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UberTaco
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JasonSFSD wrote:

Steph/Damsel = Made CYSTW, they broke her out of the hospital, she's pregnant now


I've been out of things since about August. When did that happen?

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UberTaco wrote:
JasonSFSD wrote:

Steph/Damsel = Made CYSTW, they broke her out of the hospital, she's pregnant now


I've been out of things since about August. When did that happen?


An Everyman Hybrid Christmas

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UberTaco wrote:
JasonSFSD wrote:

Steph/Damsel = Made CYSTW, they broke her out of the hospital, she's pregnant now


I've been out of things since about August. When did that happen?


She was shown taking a pregnancy test in the Christmas video.

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device
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I've noticed a lot of people finding Vin's need to document everything decidedly strange and unsettling.

However, as the series progresses, I think I can understand his need.

Just look at what their lives are like now!
Events that they have experienced are shown not to have happened...and there is video evidence of events that they no longer remember. Their friends, family and acquaintances are dying and disappearing all around them. If the same thing happens to them, how will anyone know they even existed? How will they know the events that have occurred? How do they prove their own reality, even to themselves?

Even HABIT has a strange need to document the things he has done, or invent himself by claiming responsibility for all those historical atrocities.

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Oscar Langley
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"can you imagine...what he did to Jessy?"

that line, and the way he said it...just wrong.

Jeff was wearing a Slenderman-style suit in the Candleverse video, so since then I've assumed there's *some* kind of connection between the two of them. I guess whatever that is is why he came to Jeff's aide exclusively.

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A theory.

Last night, I got finally back to re-read HoL in a bout of slight insomnia. Something that stood out to me, as each time when I read it, is how unreliable everything in the book is. Meaning: if the writer took the book up and actually injected fiction into it, we wouldn't know.

Looking at this entry, a few things stand out that people seem to notice but nobody really seems to care to point out, so here we go:

a.) we never see the inside of the house, both during the fight or after. This is particularly of interest to me for a couple of reasons. 1.) the music hints at HABIT, and we know that he's currently got a host outside of Evan (or do we? Nick is dead after all, and it was implied Nick typed his letters himself). However, it is blamed on The Rake, who, as some have already mentioned, seems to more or less work with Slendy. If not, it could mean that the Rake, or "Snoopy" in HABIT's words, is actually a HABIT-shell he uses and feels is a watchdog of sorts. 2.) we never see the remains of Jessie. I actually do believe Evan, but there remains the shadow of a doubt that either he killed her (unlikely) or that she's still alive (unlikely). I go with Evan is telling the truth, but it's still interesting to notice the inside isn't FILMED!

b.) Jeff's story. We are actually told second hand, but are unaware of details Jeff either can't remember from his encounter with the tall one or of any details he didn't notice. There may be more to this encounter than we realize.

c.) Vince's obsession with filming things, and at the same time staying off camera himself. We have seen in the past how recordings are used as counter proof against the guys, in an attempt by HABIT to show us we cannot rely on what they tell us, and Vince seems to be more and more fascinated with showing WHATEVER happens for a reason. He claims it is for our merit, but I am not entirely sure it is. The strange thing about this is that DIRECTLY after they drop off Evan, he discusses with Jeff that they ONLY UPLOADED THE FIRST PART, and that the ending needs to be there "for the people who cared for Jessie" as well. This is completely useless information except if you realize that this need to get everything recorded out has actually a different meaning to it, which is for Vince to encourage the viewer that what we see is real, the only way to see and understand things.
If we connect this with the fact that Vince is actually the one we know least of, it is interesting that we never ever saw Lexie in person, that the first time we were supposed to see her she was just... gone/dead.

Seeing becomes more and more of an issue here. HABIT sending us the un-seeable videos (upon, when watching them, the crew went into a weird trance/flashback). The CandleCrew discussing the camera's POV and calling it "One of them with their thousand miles stare" (linked to violence in video games by Jeff and in Full Metal Jacket to the violence seen during the war). Vince being billed "The Voyeur". Various characters recall what they saw during the series, yet it is unclear whether they themselves were possessed and mindwiped.

I would actually suspect the series to use this now as a means to go even further out and challenge our concept of seeing. But as of now, this entry poses some really interesting questions.

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device wrote:
I've noticed a lot of people finding Vin's need to document everything decidedly strange and unsettling.

However, as the series progresses, I think I can understand his need.

Just look at what their lives are like now!
Events that they have experienced are shown not to have happened...and there is video evidence of events that they no longer remember. Their friends, family and acquaintances are dying and disappearing all around them. If the same thing happens to them, how will anyone know they even existed? How will they know the events that have occurred? How do they prove their own reality, even to themselves?

Even HABIT has a strange need to document the things he has done, or invent himself by claiming responsibility for all those historical atrocities.


I could buy into this theory except for the fact that Vinnie has gone from wanting to film random occurrences to wanting to film the mangled corpse of someone he had been at least casually acquainted with for at least two years and put the video on YouTube for the whole world to see. There's just something really messed up in that.

Oscar Langley wrote:
"can you imagine...what he did to Jessy?"

that line, and the way he said it...just wrong.


Vinnie's dialogue during that entire conversation was weird and off. He seemed more worried about getting Jeff on his side against Evan than the fact that he had been attacked by a freaky abomination and someone they knew had been ripped apart. Really there was nothing in that video that we couldn't have been told via Twitter. So why the insistence that the video must be posted? It kind of makes me wonder if there's something hidden in the video that we've missed.

I don't know, I feel like I'm picking on Vinnie lately. I hope it turns out that he's just suffering from PTSD or something and that there's nothing sinister going on. But when a dude's reaction to pretty much every friend and acquaintance he has being murdered gruesomely (most likely including his girlfriend) is to say "OMG GUYZ! WE NEED TO PUT THIS ON YOUTUBE!", it looks weird.

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Is it just me, or about 57 sec into the video does it sound like Evan says "They tore her the fuck apart"...they as opposed to it or he?

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JacKay wrote:
Is it just me, or about 57 sec into the video does it sound like Evan says "They tore her the fuck apart"...they as opposed to it or he?
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I heard that too

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Ouroborus wrote:
JacKay wrote:
Is it just me, or about 57 sec into the video does it sound like Evan says "They tore her the fuck apart"...they as opposed to it or he?
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I heard that too


I thought I was crazy. Maybe he means HABIT was there, too (maybe in him?)? Or maybe it's just something he said by mistake or misheard?

As for the whole not showing inside the house, don't forget they probably didn't want to mess up someone's house with fake blood and broken stuff. I mean, it's still a plot point with Vince and stuff. But also, if you were used to filming everything, and someone said that to you, that someone was dead in a house, wouldn't you want to go see, make sure? And maybe not even think about the fact you have a camera with you. You'd be in shock, at least a little.

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tijde
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What's with the distortion in the Jim Thorpe video? Has anyone gone through and examined the background around each instance?

It's worth noting that, as far as I can tell at least, Evan's face is NOT gore-spattered when Vinnie films him in the window, immediately after his fight with the Rake. So whose blood is it and how did it get on him? Some of it is Evan's, obviously, but that's an awful lot of blood. Is it just from checking Jess's body for signs of life, or some display of emotion and grief? Or did something else happen? That "they" is really making me wonder...
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Ouroborus wrote:
JacKay wrote:
Is it just me, or about 57 sec into the video does it sound like Evan says "They tore her the fuck apart"...they as opposed to it or he?
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I heard that too


I think he says "thing." "Thing just tore her apart."

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ChildOfAtom wrote:
Ouroborus wrote:
JacKay wrote:
Is it just me, or about 57 sec into the video does it sound like Evan says "They tore her the fuck apart"...they as opposed to it or he?
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I heard that too


I think he says "thing." "Thing just tore her apart."


Could be.
tijde wrote:
What's with the distortion in the Jim Thorpe video? Has anyone gone through and examined the background around each instance?

It's worth noting that, as far as I can tell at least, Evan's face is NOT gore-spattered when Vinnie films him in the window, immediately after his fight with the Rake. So whose blood is it and how did it get on him? Some of it is Evan's, obviously, but that's an awful lot of blood. Is it just from checking Jess's body for signs of life, or some display of emotion and grief? Or did something else happen? That "they" is really making me wonder...


He could have checked the body, sustained injuries of his own, had blood that was on the Rake that got on him, or had Jessie thrown at him. At least, those are what I can think of.

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