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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2012
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ravenofroses
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YouWillLeadUs wrote:
ravenofroses wrote:

keeping up with the more specifically ARG elements in this series has to be really goddamn difficult


I think people were complaining about that, so maybe that's part of why it's been phased out. I started watching EMH only a few months ago, and some things I've had trouble figuring out. So if someone didn't want to put the effort into it, they'd have no idea what was going on and some were bound to whine to the creators about it.


i actually meant on the part of the creators, since they're the ones who have to produce all this content, but yeah, fans of this series have traditionally found it difficult to keep up with the less visible sides of the series.
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To paraphrase Ghostbusters, Jeff has gone bye-bye, Unfiction. What have you got left?

I would talk to them, sure, they seem to be inviting it. But at this point I'd direct communication to the general group or to Vinnie and Evan. I don't think Jeff appears to be in any condition for anything right now, at least not yet. But he might surprise me.
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ChildOfAtom wrote:

He claimed once before, in an email exchange I think, that we had seen him on camera many times. But he refused to say where exactly.


Wouldn't it just be every time Evan has acted crazy?

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LegitimatelyTaylor wrote:
Wouldn't it just be every time Evan has acted crazy?


Maybe, depends on whether or not Evan actually IS HABIT.

Also, where's the line? We know that HABIT brainwashes and "trains" his victims (Nick) was Evan possessed by HABIT when he killed Nick or was he being the person that HABIT trained him to be? Is the fascination with knives thing Evan or HABIT? It seems simplistic to just say "every time" that Evan goes over the edge we are witnessing HABIT.

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Just thought of something: When they were accounting for the deceased in the description of the latest video, they didn't count the exterminator, did they? Can we assume that he eventually emerged from the crawspace, or was he just beneath their consideration?

(I keep picturing him running out of Alex's room in black-and-white sped-up film, like in an episode of The Munsters.)

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I noticed they did not count Steph's deceased family or the people who were killed that were traveling with her.


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depends on whether or not Evan actually IS HABIT


I think Habit's been making them all dance for his amusement, honestly. All throughout the series.
For example, look at Steph... she had purple tape on her paintings (while she was just still on her blog), and her responses to her blog followers sometimes suspiciously sounded like things Habit has said later in the series. Who's to say it wasn't Habit, through her, that kept updating her blog with increasingly disturbing posts...

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There's also the question of the auto incident at Christmas. Assuming for a moment that that crash footage in Twenty-Four Months is from the aftermath of that prior scene, we have to ask what happened there, when and why.

Assuming this has not been done yet, someone (no, not me) needs to ask them a) can they see the footage from the Christmas video with Jeff and Vin in the car, and b) can they see the HABIT footage in the new one? I'm assuming the answer to both is no. And I think we can assume they're being protected or regenerated in some way -- ooooorrrr, maybe we're dealing with multiple strands of time or reality. It would be nice to start pulling some of these disparate pieces together. Look at something like Source Code, where (ending spoilers)
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every time Jake Gyllenhaal's character goes into the past incident, he is projected into another parallel track in the multiverse, where's there potentially another him, another day, another possible outcome.
Who's to say we're not dealing with a dozen spinoffs? One Jeff and Vinnie could be dead or worse on the road after that crash, with Vin's glasses stained with blood, while we're still seeing two new-but-identical ones now. Or, to take an earlier example from last year, iterations of Jeff, Evan and Alex who went through the crawlspace could still be wandering around up on Baldpate, near that tree, while their viable (and identical) replacements made it back and hitched a ride with Vinnie.

I don't get it, I'm not high enough and I'm spitballing but we have plenty of weird time/space shit like this to at least start assembling into a matrix and seeing if we can find where pieces might fit. Maybe it's iterations, or maybe they keep being regenerated and properly re-positioned every time they get into trouble. But it's worth a closer, or broader look.
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Mattwan wrote:
Just thought of something: When they were accounting for the deceased in the description of the latest video, they didn't count the exterminator, did they? Can we assume that he eventually emerged from the crawspace, or was he just beneath their consideration?


It really depends. There some ambiguous ones on the list. "Two strangers" for instance... I chose to call that Rose and Dead Girl/Linnie. But it could have been Dead Girl and Exterminator and Rose was one of the "Loved Ones" making that Rose and Jessa, and Lexi still among the living...

But it's more likely that the poor exterminator got over looked... OR crawled all the way to Baldpate like the boys did and is still kicking around somewhere.

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The idea that the Hybrids have died and been regenerated or something during the course of the series reminds me of something from season 5 of Supernatural.
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Sam and Dean found out that they had died many times over the course of the series, but every time they died, the angels resurrected them. The angels needed to keep them alive along enough to bring about the Apocalypse.


So maybe something similar is happening here. Evan, Vinnie, Jeff, and Steph stay alive until they achieve some unknown goal and then are allowed to die. They've done it before, back in their Corenthal iteration, now they're going to do it again and then be killed/allowed to die. Maybe the Candleverse Hybrids are the sort of master copies that the versions we've been following are created from.

If they are being kept alive to do something important, who's to say that Slendy is necessarily evil here? They've hinted at some sort of apocalyptic alternate world/timeline/future, maybe Slendy is trying to prevent that from happening and because He's utterly inhuman, He doesn't see anything wrong with using endless iterations of pain and struggle to accomplish it.

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So, it's been a really damn long time since I've posted, guys, but I have a question. As to the latest video, I know who the three friends are (Nick, Jessie, and Ryan), and I know who the parents are (Jeff's, obviously), the two loved ones (Jessa and Vinnie's dead sweetheart), and one of the strangers (The girl in 'Cops Checked, No Body'), and the brother and dog are obvious, but who is the other stranger, and who are the two coworkers that have been lost?
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The coworkers were from Jeff's work – in the timeline that replaced the one in which Steph was rescued, two people died in an accident. The other stranger was probably Jessie's grandmother, Rose.

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One thing I never see specifically mentioned in EMH theory is old fairy tales. Changelings......... Is it possible that the candleverse is just the fairy courts and the characters we've seen are just the fletches sent to replace them in the our world? It could explain the many deaths. The fletches could know just enough of the real story to play their part, though when they reset they lose the memories in order to keep their characters in check.

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ChildOfAtom wrote:

Maybe, depends on whether or not Evan actually IS HABIT.


Evan is his own person, but he is HABIT's primary host, and is definitely who HABIT was referring to in that email response. HABIT's favoritism for Evan has been confirmed several times, most notably in the Corenthal letters, and in the last video. He waltzes around Evan's basement in Evan's body, scraping Evan's knives against everything. The song used in the video, "The Best Is Yet to Come", is a direct reference to what the Seeking Truth guy said about Evan. "It's gonna get so much worse before it gets better."

When Nick was killed, I had a theory that Evan would kill the other characters who "don't belong", as in, weren't present in the last iteration. That meant, first and foremost after Nick, Jessie and Daniel. As soon as I saw Evan focus the camera on Daniel in the Christmas video, especially at the end there, I knew he was a goner. Now Jessie is dead, Evan is obviously the culprit, and we see him pointing a knife at Daniel's picture in the newest video. Alex threw me for a curveball, because he seemed like more of a "primary" character than the others, but I guess he DID die in the last iteration... and I'm still not convinced he's dead. I'm betting that Alex will post a video on his personal channel or something, if only for good storytelling.

ChildOfAtom wrote:

Also, where's the line? We know that HABIT brainwashes and "trains" his victims (Nick) was Evan possessed by HABIT when he killed Nick or was he being the person that HABIT trained him to be? Is the fascination with knives thing Evan or HABIT? It seems simplistic to just say "every time" that Evan goes over the edge we are witnessing HABIT.


I don't think it's every time, because Evan was already pretty unstable, but you can tell when he's inHABITed...
For example, when he's talking to "himself" about fish in the Ryan video, he's HABIT.

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Can't believe I didn't notice this sooner...

I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this post, but...
... has anyone else heard of the "Leaked" videos?

I only heard about them recently, so I decided to check them out.
One of them in particular held my interest.


YouTube: Link


Anyone recognize the opening shot?

Again, I apologize if my post starts a flame war, but this just had to be brought up. The resemblance between the shot from "24 Months" and this is... well, it's just too much to be a mere coincidence!

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I'm always a litte leery to just accept "Evan is Habit" stuff.

It's a little too on the nose.

The Ryan video always bothered me, especially after Habit basically outed himself as the 'phantom editor'.

Why would he show that? Just to be a troll? Or is he intentionally being misleading.

I mean, I don't doubt that Evan was inhabited to kill whatshisface. And of course something was going on in the Ryan video. I don't know. I just don't trust my eyes, I guess.

And I do honestly believe it was Steph with the knife in the last video.



edit for latest post: oh dehr. That is the second shot, I believe they've reused from that.

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