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[VIDEO] Entry #53
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NewInTown2
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Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi wrote:
WheresMyARGs wrote:
DHawk314 wrote:
WheresMyARGs wrote:
Entry #33: There's no evidence that justifies the attack, but it can be suggested that Masky wan't attacking Jay at all. That and entries 18/19 are the only ones I'm on the fence about.


If we assume The Operator kidnapped Jessica, and The Operator was in the hotel, then Masky probably wanted Jay out of the hotel so The Operator didn't get him. But I think it'd be too coincidental for Masky to show up in the hotel at the same time as The Operator. Unless Masky had always been in the hotel. I think Masky, for some reason, decided to kidnap Jessica.

But Entry #19 I think was just Masky stealing back his pills. And being crazy.


I guess that's still open for interpretation. But I have no way of justifying Entry #18. To just attack Jay has to be for a reason. And I forgot to mention Entry #23, which I'm also undecided as to whether he's helping or not.

18 is justifiable, Jay wasn't being targeted directly by slendy yet, but Jay was herp-derping his way to slendy's stalking list. TiMasky was trying to scare Jay off the trail, taking drastic measures to force him out


However, TTA was always telling Jay to go back to the house. And the third time Jay went back (entry 23), Masky was there teasing Jay into following him more than scaring him away. So I guess I'm agreeing with you that Tim wasn't really attacking Jay. But he wasn't scaring him away neither.
As for Entry 18. I have no clue why Masky attacked Jay Razz

(In my head TTA = Masky so that's another reason why I don't think Masky tried to scare Jay away from the house)

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DHawk314
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WheresMyARGs wrote:
That's what I mean by "on-and-off". I think that, while Masky did appear frequently in season 1's TTA videos (in one form or another), he appears less in season 2's, implying that he may not be the only one in charge of the channel (anymore, at least). It's fitting that he's on-and-off too; when the TTA videos don't "star" him, it may just be that he's off of his Masky-personality side, and is just Tim, struggling to remember what the Hell is going on.


I once wondered if Tim has more personalities than just him and Masky, and if some totheark videos reflect different personalities. Some of them are downright menacing, while others are helpful. But, it seems too complicated. I do think Masky and Hoody are both totheark together. I think Masky was in season 1 though; I think Hoody started in season 2. I honestly think the inconsistent motives of the totheark videos are due to insanity though, not it being Masky and Hoody, because I think Masky and Hoody have the same motives. Whatever the hell they are...

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 		What about Return, where Masky leads Jay right to The Slender Man? That certainly puts his allegiance into question, as well as his desire to protect Jay.

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 		Has anyone made a chronological timeline of the whole series? As in when the videos were filmed, not when they were posted as entries. If not I can probably work on one myself. But I think that might be a good way to help us figure out when Tim was/wasn't Masky (and potentially a TTA), as well as for Hoody.

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Oscar Langley wrote:
Has anyone made a chronological timeline of the whole series? As in when the videos were filmed, not when they were posted as entries. If not I can probably work on one myself. But I think that might be a good way to help us figure out when Tim was/wasn't Masky (and potentially a TTA), as well as for Hoody.


Foood has made an amazing timeline for everything. It's a sticky

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33039

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JustJim wrote:
What about Return, where Masky leads Jay right to The Slender Man? That certainly puts his allegiance into question, as well as his desire to protect Jay.


We don't know for sure if Masky lead Jay to the operator. Maybe he followed Jay and filmed it so Jay could know what happened with him when he was teleported away.

*edit* Sorry for the double post.

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 		I had this theory about Return a few months ago:

In 2006, Jay was involved in at least one disappearing, possibly Tim's. He doesn't remember it because he was being operated just as Alex was/is ("don't follow me!"). Alex and Jay were "chosen" around the events of Entry #5, because they were pretty good friends at the time. Entry #19 and Return were Tim's attempt at disappearing Jay in revenge. Big Op ignored Jay because he used to be his pawn years ago. Tim then decided that if he can't have Jay dead, he'll turn him against Alex by planting the red tower tape and by setting him on Alex's trail. Meanwhile, The Operator proceeded to win Jay back (in his own cosmic ways) in entries #23 and #24.

This would explain why The Operator never seemed to hurt Jay in Return, #23, #40, #46, and assumedly #29; why Tim would rather tackle and stalk Jay than just help him; and also why Alex didn't just murder Jay in #35.

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JustJim wrote:
What about Return, where Masky leads Jay right to The Slender Man? That certainly puts his allegiance into question, as well as his desire to protect Jay.


Actually, if you think about it, The Operator was going right passed Jay, into the camera, assumed to be held by totheark. So you could make the case that totheark was leading The Operator away from Jay, to save him.

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onetruepurple wrote:
I had this theory about Return a few months ago:

In 2006, Jay was involved in at least one disappearing, possibly Tim's. He doesn't remember it because he was being operated just as Alex was/is ("don't follow me!"). Alex and Jay were "chosen" around the events of Entry #5, because they were pretty good friends at the time. Entry #19 and Return were Tim's attempt at disappearing Jay in revenge. Big Op ignored Jay because he used to be his pawn years ago. Tim then decided that if he can't have Jay dead, he'll turn him against Alex by planting the red tower tape and by setting him on Alex's trail. Meanwhile, The Operator proceeded to win Jay back (in his own cosmic ways) in entries #23 and #24.

This would explain why The Operator never seemed to hurt Jay in Return, #23, #40, #46, and assumedly #29; why Tim would rather tackle and stalk Jay than just help him; and also why Alex didn't just murder Jay in #35.


While I don't agree with everything it is a pretty interesting theory. What if Jay used to be a "proxy"/antagonist and he just doesn't remember it anymore.

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NewInTown2 wrote:
What if Jay used to be a "proxy"/antagonist and he just doesn't remember it anymore.


In Entry #22, Alex said Jay is "Gone". Maybe this is what he meant, but after Alex decided to burn the tapes in that entry, The Operator let him go and Jay took the tapes.

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 		Finally finished watching this entry....I've been trying to watch it since like 11 lastnight and it wouldn't load past 6:31...looking forward to this new season and as others have said was quite suprised at how normal Tim seems.

Silver seren wrote:

What about Tim's leg?


One of the first things I noticed,I doubt they just forgot that he is supposed to have a limp because they're normally so detail oriented...I guess we'll probably find out what happened with the leg before the end but I'm surprised J didn't notice it.

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onetruepurple
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 		The leg has probably healed by now? In game it's been nearly 2 years since it was smashed.

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 		I can see how Jay is more persistent with Tim and less reluctant than he was with Jessica.
This is probably because he doesn't want him to go through the same thing.
Good character development on Troseph's part.

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Seraphim
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 		Wild theory: Tim's behind-the-scene tapes have footage of Jay as a proxy.

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Beidah wrote:
As for the tapes, I'm thinking it might contain Tim's descent into madness as he changes to the crazed masked-man we fear. I'm hoping it also contains bits from Alex explaining a little bit of what he knows about Mr. Tall.


S3: Tim Makes a Dark Descent Razz

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