Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
  

The time now is Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:20 am
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)		 View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » Marble Hornets
[OT] Season III Off-Topic Thread
Moderators: Giskard, JKatkina, Zarggg
View previous topicView next topic
Page 40 of 195 [2919 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, ..., 193, 194, 195  Next
Author Message
darmam0o
Boot


Joined: 05 Jan 2013
Posts: 44
Location: Russia
George G wrote:
I can read Russian just fine, you can go ahead and link to your favorite stories. (Poor monolingual suckers will have to settle for GoogleTranslate though Smile)

I tried reading some Russian creepypastas once, just a few short ones, and thought they were pretty alright. Maybe not subtle enough for my taste. (Even the language itself lacks the word for creepy.) But I imagine there's a lot of even better Russian scary stories out there, and it would be nice to read those.


Oh, no GoogleTranslate, please, its Russian is even worse than my English.

That's true, we don't have the word "creepy". I'm under the impression that our cultures are different in this part. Most of the content from your links is more or less similar: it starts with some ordinary life situation, then some kind of culmination and an open ending, when something unknown and dangerous is still out there, the main characters are missing and implied to die a horrible death. Is this your personal preference or is it a feature of the creepy genre? Is there a difference between, say, creepy and horror? Because we have just "scary stories", which includes everything from subtle mysticism to brutal gory slashers. Does this count for a creepy story, for example?

I have a lot of different pastas saved, so I'll surely find some proper ones after a small English lesson from you. Stroopwafel
_________________
#GiveSkullyAChance
Cyan507 wrote:
Motherfucker this is unfiction, everything is taken seriously.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:58 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
George G
Veteran


Joined: 27 Mar 2011
Posts: 115
darmam0o wrote:
George G wrote:
I can read Russian just fine, you can go ahead and link to your favorite stories. (Poor monolingual suckers will have to settle for GoogleTranslate though Smile)

I tried reading some Russian creepypastas once, just a few short ones, and thought they were pretty alright. Maybe not subtle enough for my taste. (Even the language itself lacks the word for creepy.) But I imagine there's a lot of even better Russian scary stories out there, and it would be nice to read those.


Oh, no GoogleTranslate, please, its Russian is even worse than my English.

That's true, we don't have the word "creepy". I'm under the impression that our cultures are different in this part. Most of the content from your links is more or less similar: it starts with some ordinary life situation, then some kind of culmination and an open ending, when something unknown and dangerous is still out there, the main characters are missing and implied to die a horrible death. Is this your personal preference or is it a feature of the creepy genre? Is there a difference between, say, creepy and horror? Because we have just "scary stories", which includes everything from subtle mysticism to brutal gory slashers. Does this count for a creepy story, for example?

I have a lot of different pastas saved, so I'll surely find some proper ones after a small English lesson from you. Stroopwafel


I am not qualified to give English lessons to anyone, but I'll try and explain as best I can. What does or does not count as creepy is going to vary depending on who you ask, but to me creepiness is about the feeling of dread and uneasiness, more about the things that make your skin crawl and send shivers down your spine, and less about the things that jump at you with a loud noise and try to bite your face off. More about the things that make you want to back away slowly, but also make you curious in a weird kind of way, and less about the things send you screaming in terror, although some screaming and some terror might still be involved at some point. That, I'd say is the difference between creepiness and horror.
I'm pretty sure there is a fare share of creepy stories in every culture, whether they actually have a word for it or not. And many stories will attempt to incorporate both the elements that are in-your-face kind of scary with more subtle ones.

The pattern you noticed in the stories I linked to: what you describe is a fairly common and general horror formula. So, if you just randomly select 10 stories, some of them are inevitably going to follow it. At the same time now that I think of it I do have a personal preference for that type of story. I never really noticed that before, but I do now. Btw, I really enjoyed the one you linked before, the one about the beach. And of course, it also follows the same pattern.

I'll read the story you linked to as soon as my headache stops. Funny, it sounded like someone just knocked on my door. I'll now go answer them, but as soon as I return I am going to post a essay that will once and for all answer all your creepiness related questions and more. It will feature and extensive bibliography and will be lavishly illustrated with only the most shiver inducing of images. You'll just have to wait a couple of minutes.

So don't go anywhere, I'll be right back.
_________________
Imagine four balls on the edge of a cliff_____________________OOOO

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:53 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
ZargggModerator
Unfictologist


Joined: 23 Dec 2010
Posts: 1660
darmam0o wrote:
That's true, we don't have the word "creepy". I'm under the impression that our cultures are different in this part. ... Is there a difference between, say, creepy and horror? Because we have just "scary stories", which includes everything from subtle mysticism to brutal gory slashers.


In English, the word is used to describe anything that incites fear and unease, with a connotation heavy on a physical reaction (rather than just being in the mind). The derivation of the word is meant to evoke the crawling sensation underneath the skin one gets when frightened.

Another use of the word is in the phrase "creepy crawlies," sometimes used to refer to insects or arachnids, due to a common cultural trend in the United States that they invoke this same kind of fear. The word "creep" itself ultimately comes from the same root as the Dutch, German, Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish verbs for "to crawl".

According to Wiktionary, the closest Russian analogs to "creepy" would be "жуткий", "бросающий в дрожь", and "вызывающий мурашки". Unfortunately, I don't know connotations of those terms in native Russian.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:19 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Serum
Guest


 		Коммунизм!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:23 pm
 Back to top 
Kraehtot
Unfettered


Joined: 03 Jan 2013
Posts: 438
Location: Hoody Hut
Zarggg wrote:
darmam0o wrote:
That's true, we don't have the word "creepy". I'm under the impression that our cultures are different in this part. ... Is there a difference between, say, creepy and horror? Because we have just "scary stories", which includes everything from subtle mysticism to brutal gory slashers.


In English, the word is used to describe anything that incites fear and unease, with a connotation heavy on a physical reaction (rather than just being in the mind). The derivation of the word is meant to evoke the crawling sensation underneath the skin one gets when frightened.

Another use of the word is in the phrase "creepy crawlies," sometimes used to refer to insects or arachnids, due to a common cultural trend in the United States that they invoke this same kind of fear. The word "creep" itself ultimately comes from the same root as the Dutch, German, Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish verbs for "to crawl".

According to Wiktionary, the closest Russian analogs to "creepy" would be "жуткий", "бросающий в дрожь", and "вызывающий мурашки". Unfortunately, I don't know connotations of those terms in native Russian.


I have never understood what's a creepy-pasta (I think we don't have something like that in Spain).
Would Marble Hornets count as a Creepy-Pasta? Or are they a different kind of stories?
I am not sure about that, because I have always thought "creepy" was a synonymous with annoying, repugnant, repulsive... but I think the Slenderman is terryfing, but not repugnant...
I am not sure if I am expresing myself correctly, but it would be wonderful if someone could explain this to me Smile
_________________
Code:
13 24 35 46 57 68 79 83 95 03 15 27 39
an bo cp dq er fs gt hu iv jw kx ly mz


Timman Rescue!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:59 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
ZargggModerator
Unfictologist


Joined: 23 Dec 2010
Posts: 1660

 		No, "creepy-pasta" is a variation on the term "copy-pasta," which is used to describe a story that is repeated verbatim by multiple people over time, i.e., "copy and paste".

Marble Hornets is its own story.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:47 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Kraehtot
Unfettered


Joined: 03 Jan 2013
Posts: 438
Location: Hoody Hut

 		Thank you so much!! ^^
It makes sense once you know where it cames from!
_________________
Code:
13 24 35 46 57 68 79 83 95 03 15 27 39
an bo cp dq er fs gt hu iv jw kx ly mz


Timman Rescue!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:41 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
darmam0o
Boot


Joined: 05 Jan 2013
Posts: 44
Location: Russia

 		I get it now, thank you guys. "Бросающий в дрожь" and "вызывающий мурашки" are somewhat close, but it's awkward to say so about a story, like "stories that send shivers down your spine" and "stories that make your skin crawl". We have narrations of this kind, of course, just not the word itself.

It is very amusing how many nouns, verbs and adjectives there are in both Russian and English, designating various shades of, basically, the sense of fear, for both the object and the subject of frightening, yet we barely have a single couple of words that fully match each other.

Serum wrote:
Коммунизм!


Communism is a little creepy, I agree. But Vladimir Putin is even creepier.

George G wrote:
I'll read the story you linked to as soon as my headache stops. Funny, it sounded like someone just knocked on my door. I'll now go answer them, but as soon as I return I am going to post a essay that will once and for all answer all your creepiness related questions and more. It will feature and extensive bibliography and will be lavishly illustrated with only the most shiver inducing of images. You'll just have to wait a couple of minutes.

So don't go anywhere, I'll be right back.

I hope the beauty of this ending won't force you to stop posting under this account. I'll search through my pastas to find the best creepy ones for you, and post them around the weekend. Need to fight for survival here first. Maybe I'll find some decent English translations. Also, the link from my previous post doesn't work anymore, so here's the new one.
_________________
#GiveSkullyAChance
Cyan507 wrote:
Motherfucker this is unfiction, everything is taken seriously.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:14 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Serum
Guest
darmam0o wrote:


Serum wrote:
Коммунизм!


Communism is a little creepy, I agree. But Vladimir Putin is even creepier.


You know what's scarier?

In Soviet Russia, Hell goes to you!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:37 pm
 Back to top 
shurst
Boot

Joined: 21 Sep 2012
Posts: 21
Location: Australia

 		Pros and Cons of MH
What are some things you think Marble Hornets has done well?
(Could be anything - storytelling, characters, filming...)

And what are some things it could have done better?

This isn't intended to be a rage thread, I'm simply interested in what people think about the series so far, and why people watch it.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:26 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Lithp
I Have No Life


Joined: 04 Mar 2012
Posts: 2058

 		Excellent topic.

Pros
>Characters/acting.
>Paranoia factor.
>Sense of mystery.
>Interesting settings.
>(Mostly) Logical supernatural investigation behavior.

Cons
>Very little sense of danger.
>Not enough developments coming out.
>Long breaks between episodes, with (more importantly) little in-universe justification.
>Sort of repetitive.

Overall, I am interested in the direction the story is headed, but frustrated with how slow it feels like it's getting there.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:53 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
paladin181
Unfettered


Joined: 14 Nov 2011
Posts: 502
Lithp wrote:
Excellent topic.

Pros
>Characters/acting.
>Paranoia factor.
>Sense of mystery.
>Interesting settings.
>(Mostly) Logical supernatural investigation behavior.

Cons
>Very little sense of danger.
>Not enough developments coming out.
>Long breaks between episodes, with (more importantly) little in-universe justification.
>Sort of repetitive.

Overall, I am interested in the direction the story is headed, but frustrated with how slow it feels like it's getting there.
I agree. I can't count the number of times the "next entry is gonna be huge" turned out to be "Well, maybe the NEXT entry will be big" after a beautiful set-up and consistent fall off. It's not exactly badly done, but there has to be a payoff sooner or later, or you drive away your fan base. These false crescendos are fine, but if none of them culminate in even a minor climax, people stop paying attention.

This series has such a polarized fan base like many things on the net and for much the same reason. One example I can think of is The Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall. This game had such ambition and potential, and many fans LOVED it for what it tried to be; a broad scope epic adventure that encompassed many subtle plots and political intrigue. Many fans also loved to hate it for what it actually was: A vast game of mostly dead-feeling landscape that was procedurally generated, and a bug-filled execution that always seemed to kill the momentum you started to build.

Some people blindly love this series, and some people WANT to love it so much for what it could be, and find themselves embittered and jaded.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:20 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
shurst
Boot

Joined: 21 Sep 2012
Posts: 21
Location: Australia

 		Aha, THAT'S where my topic went! For a minute there I wondered if I'd committed a terrible faux-pas, and the thread was deleted... Oops! Apologies, I shall post in this thread in future.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:24 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Geneaux486
I Have No Life


Joined: 17 Mar 2011
Posts: 2423

 		Re: Pros and Cons of MH
shurst wrote:
What are some things you think Marble Hornets has done well?
(Could be anything - storytelling, characters, filming...)

And what are some things it could have done better?

This isn't intended to be a rage thread, I'm simply interested in what people think about the series so far, and why people watch it.


It's a series that's certainly made a lot out of very little. Engaging story, well-developed characters, good acting, great location scouting, editing, really almost everything the show attempts to do it does well. Sometimes the gaps between entries get kinda frustrating, but I don't really consider that a strike against them because they gave us no expectation of solid release schedules and they give us the show for free. Basically, it's something that's out of their control in almost all cases.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:20 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
ZargggModerator
Unfictologist


Joined: 23 Dec 2010
Posts: 1660

 		@shurst: Site policy is to not delete threads that have any substance to them, so no worries there. At worst, I'd just close it with an explanation why. Wink

It just seemed like it wasn't a large enough issue to warrant its own thread, since it was (A) Out-of-game and (B) a topic that could easily come up at any given time regardless of the story's progression.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:31 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 40 of 195 [2919 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, ..., 193, 194, 195  Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » Marble Hornets
Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group