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Probably not.

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What is the extent of our involvement as spectators?

I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before, but I would like to hear opinions on the matter. From an IG point of view, why is it that we're safe from the Operator while watching the entries? For instance, we know that Jay started to get a little weird as early as entry #3 and entry #9. And by the time of entry #19 he's paranoid enough to film himself. The consensus is that he Operator found him because Jay started watching the tapes, but how came he hasn't found us? It's true we haven't watched the same amount of tapes Jay has, but we have seen the Operator plenty of times in the entries. So how come we're safe?

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Jay had previously been involved with TO, that's probably why.

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TheOperator wrote:
Jay had previously been involved with TO, that's probably why.

True. And I suppose we would have to see the Operator in person for us to get involved, like Jessica and Amy did, who had been outsiders to the whole thing.

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I don't think watching the footage caused anything to happen directly. Jay encountered the Operator while visiting mysterious locales, and I doubt he'd be having any problems if he hadn't started actively investigating things. On the other hand, who's to say we haven't all encountered the Operator and simply had it wiped from our memories?

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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
We're safe because Marble Hornets is a fictional series set in an alternate universe. It's not supposed to be "real life" and we're not supposed to act like it is.

Also the Operator seems to only affect the people it is around and the equipment that records it directly. We're watching copies uploaded to the Internet.

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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Sure we are, if we're expecting Jay to interact with us. Has he ever replied to an OOG tweet?


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Re: What is the extent of our involvement as spectators?

sweetgums wrote:
I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before, but I would like to hear opinions on the matter. From an IG point of view, why is it that we're safe from the Operator while watching the entries? For instance, we know that Jay started to get a little weird as early as entry #3 and entry #9. And by the time of entry #19 he's paranoid enough to film himself. The consensus is that he Operator found him because Jay started watching the tapes, but how came he hasn't found us? It's true we haven't watched the same amount of tapes Jay has, but we have seen the Operator plenty of times in the entries. So how come we're safe?


Jay's first encounter was the first time he goes to the house (although the first time we see the operator bother jay is in return). It's more than likely that Tim is the reason Jay started encountering him, as after he interviewed Tim is when he "got involved" personally and got the anonymous call to tell him to go to that house

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The Operator is just trying to finish up immediate matters before sending Alex take us out. Probably with his beard.

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I feel it's funny that the term "proxy" applies to someone under the control of Slenderman. If my memory serves me right, the first use of the word "proxy" in relation to the Mythos was in Marble Hornets, refering to TiMasky.

Here's my question: did we ever have any evidence that Tim was under the control of/working for the Operator? In one entry in S2 (the one where alex almost gets choke to death), Hoody and Masky run away when Big Op comes near. As far as I can tell, the "proxies" in MH were never fighting for the Operator.

Sorry if I sound like I'm saying things that have been said before. It's just a point I wanted to bring up, wasn't sure exactly where I should put it.[/i]

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fezstudios wrote:
I feel it's funny that the term "proxy" applies to someone under the control of Slenderman. If my memory serves me right, the first use of the word "proxy" in relation to the Mythos was in Marble Hornets, refering to TiMasky.

Here's my question: did we ever have any evidence that Tim was under the control of/working for the Operator? In one entry in S2 (the one where alex almost gets choke to death), Hoody and Masky run away when Big Op comes near. As far as I can tell, the "proxies" in MH were never fighting for the Operator.

Sorry if I sound like I'm saying things that have been said before. It's just a point I wanted to bring up, wasn't sure exactly where I should put it.[/i]


As far as I recall, the term 'proxy' was coined in DarkHarvest. It then expanded to allow characters from other ARGs, like the Observer from TT as well as Totheark.

But you're right. Even if Totheark is working in close proximity to the Operator, he is most probably trying to defeat the Operator, not help it. It's simply a misunderstanding on the fandom's part.

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The teleporting in the house, teleporting into Jay's bedroom, & showing up with The Operator in a ToTheArk entry all suggested that ToTheArk was working with Slenderman. As time passed, a lot of evidence surfaced to cast doubt on this, but at the time, it was a reasonable assumption.

However, you have hit upon one reason why I dislike the term "proxy." It always gets slapped on the character that shows any kind of stalking or cryptic behavior, with complete disregard for whether or not it actually seems to be doing anything for Slenderman "by proxy."

Alex is a great example. We have like one solid scene that is absolutely him being controlled by The Operator. As much as people go on about him "sacrificing" & "summoning" things, the vast majority of the time, we really have no idea what he's doing, or thinking.

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It's no secret that I'm in the "Marble Hornets doesn't have proxies" camp. I just don't see how that concept really fits in the MH narrative.

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Zarggg wrote:
It's no secret that I'm in the "Marble Hornets doesn't have proxies" camp. I just don't see how that concept really fits in the MH narrative.


A proxy is someone who's controlled by Slenderman. I don't see how TTA, Masky, or Hoodie are proxies since I don't think they've ever been shown being controlled by TO.

The only person in the series who has shown any hint of being controlled is Alex, and as far as I remember that was only Entry #43 when he came across TO in the woods and falls to the ground, then gets up and walks toward TO. Everything else has hinted at Alex more working WITH The Operator than under his control

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