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The Slender Man should move more
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JustJim
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The Slender Man should move more
part of what made MH, EMH, and TT so creepy in the first place

It seems to be a pretty commonly-held belief that the Slender Man just isn't as scary as he was when we first got into it. I can certainly agree with that sentiment. When I first discovered MH, and eventually TT and EMH, my eyes would be glued to the screen in hopes of seeing our Tall friend just so I could be scared to death. Let's face it, it's the sweet sweet drug that brought us all here and keep us around, licking our proverbial crack-encrusted lips.

Of course, like anything, our prolonged exposure has gradually wore down the scare factor. Whereas in the beginning we screamed at anything involving Slendy, now it takes truly remarkable appearances to stand out and frighten us. We have to further suspend our disbelief and the creators have to come up with increasingly clever shots and ideas to scare us. But in all this effort, it seems as though most of the lead players in the Slendy-vlog universe have forgotten one indispensable tool: it's scary when he moves.

Entry #1 is arguably the single most important and influential pieces of film in the entire Slender Man mythos, and remains one of the scariest as well. Well over a million views on Youtube, the kindling that started the Slendy vlog fire. All this for a piece of footage not even a minute long. It was so horrifying to see The Slender Man on film. And part of using that medium to it's best is motion. Sure, it would have been scary if Slender Man had remained perfectly still, staring into the window ominously. But what put it over the edge was that damn head snap. The subtle motion of his arms. He wasn't simply before us, the infernal thing was moving.

So many of the greatest Slender Man moments involve his ability to move. Yes, he's often best used as a part of the background, but that doesn't mean he has to be a damn cardboard cutout. Remember Slender Man's little head bob as the door slams shut in EMH? Running past the camera in the park? The tentacles in the closet? Walking behind Vince and Evan in Joke's Over? Chasing Alex and Amy out of the house? Standing up and walking to the middle of the boardwalk as Noah chased Milo? Of course you fucking do.

Yes, Tall, Dark and Lovecraftian can't do a whole lot, especially with the limited budgets of the creators. That's part of the reason why distortion has become a mandatory part of any Slendy vlog. It's probably the entire reason why Masky and the proxies that followed even exist. They allow Slendy to do things without having to, you know, do things. But what has he really done lately? Him appearing in Alex's door was a jump scare. Alex walked towards a motionless Operator in the woods. In Tribe Twelve, tentacles flailing has become an excuse for the rest of him standing still. Granted, I'm never too confident in whether or not I know what the hell is going on in EMH at any given time, but Slender Man, to me at least, has been nearly lost in the shuffle in that story.

I realize having a truly intimidating and believable Slender Man comes with certain restraints as to how he can be used, but why can't he walk more? Why can't we see him attacking more often instead of being left to assume? Why not try and do different things instead of putting him somewhere in the background with an invisible troll face nearly every time?

Sorry if this sounds like bitching, I don't hate the state of the Slender Man mythos, obviously. I love it. I love every damn bit of it. But I just want to see more. I want to see it expand and see new things happen. There's exceptions to my gripes about a still Slendy. The interruption video had a fantastic ending. The latest DH video was awesome when Slendy leaned it around the corner. But I feel like in this effort to keep things fresh, a lot have forgotten one of the essential elements of what made this shit scary in the first place.

Thoughts? Ideas?

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Wolfloner
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I'll be honest, I'm not a huge fan of TT. (I follow it, but I don't get nearly as excited by it updating as I do when EMH or Anderson updates) but the end of Interruption was the first time in a while that Slendy himself gave me a bit of proper fear. And I loved it. :3

I would love to see Slendy moving more (accepting why this can be difficult). I can't say a whole lot without just repeating what you said, heh. So in short: I agree.

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I was just about to say DH Log 19, but you got it covered. That entry was good!
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Andvalli
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Return was pretty fucking scary as well.

Also, something I have never seen in a vlog and maybe the single thing I liked about that less-than-mediocre Slender Man short film a while back was the sped-up effect that made him appear unhumanly fast-moving. I think it actually has potential for a more atmospheric piece of Slender Man-related fiction.

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JustJim
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Honestly, I'd love to see Slendy booking it like he was in the park. I'm sure it'd be tricky to do any sort of extended shot of it, but how damn scary would it be to see Him hauling ass chasing the camera man?

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You're entirely right. That's why In my opinion, people do need to hash it around a little bit. I think its one of the many reasons EverymanHYBRID began expanding out with the Rake.

Of course, any experienced vlogger or Director of any series would be wise if they took a look at these boards every so often. You often learn so much from feedback on the general aspect in any Slendy ARG.
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While it turned out to be someone dressed as him and not the man himself Slendy kicking the crap out of someone in Angels game was pretty shocking.

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I agree that Slendy is more effective when he moves a bit, but emphasis on "a bit".

Close, confined movements and obscured ones are the best...like the examples in the OP. But to pick on DH a little bit, while the lean in was awesome, the park chase was a little goofy when you could see him "running".

I think you just have to be mindful of what is creepy and what isn't.

If it's creepy, it's acceptable for Slendy.

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JustJim
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Ouroborus wrote:
I agree that Slendy is more effective when he moves a bit, but emphasis on "a bit".

Close, confined movements and obscured ones are the best...like the examples in the OP. But to pick on DH a little bit, while the lean in was awesome, the park chase was a little goofy when you could see him "running".

I think you just have to be mindful of what is creepy and what isn't.

If it's creepy, it's acceptable for Slendy.


I can agree with that. He shouldn't be in the background dancing or anything. I think the key is making his movement have a sense of unnatural-ness to it. I think probably the most universally feared Slendy incident is when he slowly walks into Alex's room. He's nothing but a silhouette, but he casts such an imposing shadow and he just looks so out of place that it makes it that much creepier. Did anyone not shit themselves first time they saw that?

I'd also love to see a full blown, tentacles-flailing Slender Man attack. I realize how absurdly hard it would be to do.

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JustJim wrote:
Ouroborus wrote:
I agree that Slendy is more effective when he moves a bit, but emphasis on "a bit".

Close, confined movements and obscured ones are the best...like the examples in the OP. But to pick on DH a little bit, while the lean in was awesome, the park chase was a little goofy when you could see him "running".

I think you just have to be mindful of what is creepy and what isn't.

If it's creepy, it's acceptable for Slendy.


I can agree with that. He shouldn't be in the background dancing or anything. I think the key is making his movement have a sense of unnatural-ness to it. I think probably the most universally feared Slendy incident is when he slowly walks into Alex's room. He's nothing but a silhouette, but he casts such an imposing shadow and he just looks so out of place that it makes it that much creepier. Did anyone not shit themselves first time they saw that?

I'd also love to see a full blown, tentacles-flailing Slender Man attack. I realize how absurdly hard it would be to do.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Nimbus, you and your epic tentacle-effects get to it. We have faith in you.


Since I'm not sure what sort of rig would be needed to do this it might be out of vlogers budgets, but it could be easier but just as effective for the person holding the camera to enter a room and there's Slendy with a victim held off the ground - his tentacles wrapped around the victims throat strangling them (probably easiest if the actor playing Slendy is holding the vic up with his real arms).

Maybe the camera holder burst in because they heard the struggle.

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i think what scared me the most about the mythos before i got into marble hornets was the semi-spider-like movement most of the descriptions depicted.

while i understand that the budget of most vloggers is next to nothing, i think being able to extend the arms the bit and then give the slender man a more ape-like walk (in which he uses his arms to move as well) or giving him a kind of praying mantis like demeanor in his motion and shape could do wonders in making him "scary" again.

as someone who doesn't get THAT scared by the slender man much anymore, i still follow MH MLA TJA and DH for their stories and ingenuity. i'm far more excited for a new 2 minute entry than i am most 90 minute hollywood movies Smile

i think keeping him still and in the background is very effective... and i like that most...

but imagine that one time... that ONE TIME...

when the slender man not only notices the protagonist, but starts chasing... in the the most alien/unnatural movement possible

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JustJim wrote:

I'd also love to see a full blown, tentacles-flailing Slender Man attack. I realize how absurdly hard it would be to do.


a tentacle attack you say.... *totally NOT thinking of doing this*

er... nothing to see here! move along!


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I would definitely agree with the OP. Spotting Slendy in the background of a video is creepy as hell, but it's not really mind-warping terror. Seeing Him moving, this huge alien thing actually coming at you? That's pants-wetting scary. I think MLAnderson0 has done some nice stuff with a moving Slendy. The early video in which He disappeared and reappeared in distortions and actually put his hand on Michael's shoulder is quite possibly one of the scariest things I've ever watched. The alleyway video later in the same series in which Slendy actually comes over a fence at the protagonists was also pretty freaky. Even the simple head turn the first time we saw Slendy in Marble Hornets was scary.

So yeah, I get that it's harder to show a moving Slendy and has the potential for cheesiness, but I think it's something that really needs to happen more often.

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I'm also reminded of a fairly early entry in Angel's Game, before things got too complicated and it was just Josh, Alex, and Alana (RIP) against Slendy (yes I know it wasn't actually Slender Man, but whatever I never really tried to understand the ending in AG). They come back to the car to see a door removed, music blaring, and The Slender Man slowly but surely walking towards them, horror movie-style. They freak out and try to run, but he keeps getting closer and closer.

An awesome moment to be sure.

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JustJim wrote:
I'm also reminded of a fairly early entry in Angel's Game, before things got too complicated and it was just Josh, Alex, and Alana (RIP) against Slendy (yes I know it wasn't actually Slender Man, but whatever I never really tried to understand the ending in AG). They come back to the car to see a door removed, music blaring, and The Slender Man slowly but surely walking towards them, horror movie-style. They freak out and try to run, but he keeps getting closer and closer.

An awesome moment to be sure.


That was a great scene. It wasn't just the movement it was the implication that he not only could but would rip a door off a car just to get at you.

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