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[VIDEO] Reminder
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Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi
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pravado wrote:
take into consideration that the person filming the clip OOG may not be the same person IG. similar to how jay played hoody in 45

And how Tim played hoodie in 41
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NewInTown2
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pravado wrote:
i have to ask. what's with the "sir"


'T was a Fight Club joke.

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carameldrops
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Boros7 wrote:
To risk being captain obvious, no one has pointed this out yet.



Could there be anything in the vertical lines here? Looks almost like a barcode. I don't have photoshop on this laptop now to trace over it and try to read it though, maybe someone else can give it a go.

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pravado
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carameldrops wrote:
Boros7 wrote:
To risk being captain obvious, no one has pointed this out yet.



Could there be anything in the vertical lines here? Looks almost like a barcode. I don't have photoshop on this laptop now to trace over it and try to read it though, maybe someone else can give it a go.


it's a basic filter used to make things look old timey. many programs use it. i wouldn't look too deep into this.

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Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi wrote:
pravado wrote:
take into consideration that the person filming the clip OOG may not be the same person IG. similar to how jay played hoody in 45

And how Tim played hoodie in 41


I dunno, in 53 Jay gets very close to the window, and we have a reflection for a long time. I would suspect that this was something they intended for us to notice.

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carameldrops
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pravado wrote:
carameldrops wrote:
Boros7 wrote:
To risk being captain obvious, no one has pointed this out yet.



Could there be anything in the vertical lines here? Looks almost like a barcode. I don't have photoshop on this laptop now to trace over it and try to read it though, maybe someone else can give it a go.


it's a basic filter used to make things look old timey. many programs use it. i wouldn't look too deep into this.


Ah, all right. I wasn't sure since it was such a quick flash of it.

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Camero wrote:
Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi wrote:
pravado wrote:
take into consideration that the person filming the clip OOG may not be the same person IG. similar to how jay played hoody in 45

And how Tim played hoodie in 41


I dunno, in 53 Jay gets very close to the window, and we have a reflection for a long time. I would suspect that this was something they intended for us to notice.


i'm not saying that. but they clearly don't want us to be able to make out who it is or what gender they are. its possible that the person showing up in the reflection wasn't even purposely. it's nice for continuity but again, the actor that they want to reveal as totheark eventually might not be the same actor who is manning the camera during reminder

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Ok--Well I'm gonna preface this posting by saying that for me personally there is enough visual evidence here to be fairly certain that the warehouse/building or whatever from Entry #52 is not the same building that is seen in "Reminder".

Obviously there will be some room for debate/argument and I expect that,especially since there's only one shot of the buliding in question in "Reminder".Also--due to the nature of the medium and the screen shots not being perfect--there is room for doubt perhaps.
But I have tried my best to alter certain levels and "tweak" some shit to where maybe some things can be seen and discerned better.

Alex led Jay and Jessica a good way back into the woods,and when you see the outside shots from any angle that is available,it's pretty evident that they are not in a suburban setting--they are in a rural setting.
There are four sides of building--back,front,and two sides.
For the purpose of this post--we will establish that the side they approached from is the front side,and they came straight out of fairly dense woods.
Also--this building,IMO,looks makeshift and temporary--it's a fairly barebones structure meant to basically protect materials and equipment from the elements.It looks as if it's used for storage and nothing more.

All this matters because the building I'm comparing it to in "Reminder" looks more like a permanent structure and that it is not out in the middle of dense woods,and is in or rather close to a suburban setting,like in an actual neighborhood.Three things I observe and base this on are the streetlights,telephone/power lines and this is less evident,but you can kinda see lights through the trees/foliage towards the left center,that to me resemble houses,streetlights,cars and such.

The gang comes in from point "A",they cross the space inside,ascend the stairs and the wall directly in front of them is point "B".All along the edge of the top of the wall where it meets the roof on sides A and B is open to the air and we can easily see space and light along the ENTIRE length of it.
The sides of the building appear to not have any doors,windows or any other openings.Yet it appears that there's some sort of opening with daylight shining through the side of the building in "Reminder".
The long side of the building we see in "Reminder" could not be the side they entered,so it therfore has to be the back side,or side B.

Therefore,where Alex would be standing holding the gun would be along the back/bottom Rt hand corner.Which has no trees near it for yards and yards.But in entry #52--it's quite obvious that there are fairly dense trees right up close to the building.There are also open places (or they look open) that don't correspond with what I've already noted.

When I look at the angles where they come in and eventually are totally in the structure,none of the shots of outside that show,roof,treelines,sky etc show any power/electric/phone lines--but I know that can be debated because one could argue we don't have the correct PERFECT angle.

I'll just put up some of the screen caps I got and let the debating begin.If they ARE the same building--I am just not seeing it. Confused

I have alot of caps,but I've already written a wall of text so I will put up a few that I think illustrate everything adequately enough and if anyone wants more--I'll be glad to post them or provide the link to my Photobucket page.




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twistedpuppet
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I'll have to wait until I get home to download the video and pull screen caps. However, even with the power lines, I'm still not convinced that it isn't the same building but from the back of the building.

That's what I meant when I said from a different angle.

When they first enter the building, you can clearly see a wood chipper. Those run on electricity. A lumber yard like that would have power lines running to it and it would have a lamp post. I've seen this with similar buildings in the rural areas near my house. You'd be surprised just how many people have buildings and homes that far back in the woods.

The background in more than one shot does not show tall trees behind the roof of the building. I also noted that in one shot, Jay pans over to the backside of the building and you can clearly see an open field.

The lumber and equipment also look far too well maintained to be abandoned in the middle of the woods. The workers probably just weren't there that week.

Until I'm absolutely proven wrong(and this has happened), I'm going to remain convinced that the building shown in Reminder is the same building from #52, just filmed from the backside.


I'll have actual screenshots later tonight to further support my claims.

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mokie
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amrith777 wrote:
Ok--Well I'm gonna preface this posting by saying that for me personally there is enough visual evidence here to be fairly certain that the warehouse/building or whatever from Entry #52 is not the same building that is seen in "Reminder".


As twistedpuppet said, #52's structure doesn't look makeshift or temporary to me, but like a fairly standard rural outbuilding. Where you're seeing surburban lights through the trees (yellow circle), I see what I think may be the roof of that smaller shed (seen just before your last still, I believe) as seen through the gap in the roofline of the larger building (red lines).



I don't believe the trees are necessarily as close to the building (in the Alex/Masky reunion shot) as you believe they are, but rather that they're just tall and dense behind the clearing. Also, that the sense of scale for the clearing is somewhat misleading--using the light poles as a guide, it doesn't look like so huge a space between the treeline and the first pole, or the first and the second pole. It's just well-shot.

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People for theories place video.

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twistedpuppet
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Tharol wrote:
People for theories place video.


I've got screenshots coming, Tharol.

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elkapo
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The idea that the girl reflected in the glass has taken the video does not match so much to me, really .... the videos are recorded in different times, in fact "reminder" is taken earlier. Also in the reflection you can see another person, I guess they just were there.

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Jaames
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Great, just great, I was on the MarbleHornets wiki, and I watch Entry #53, not scared and BOOM! Hello, ToTheArk. :I

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