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rose
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Emails to Caretaker

As requested (or I guess I actually volunteered) I emailed a bunch of links to Caretaker. There is no new information here, just FYI as Addlepated requested.




To: CaretakerSPLATblackvault.com




Dear Caretaker;

I was relieved to hear from you, even though my friends think I shouldn't forgive you for not writing back to me. But I want you to have all the information that could possibly assist you in your visit to Catalina. I didn't include Espoo related stuff and Dr.Z's old notes, but I can get them. Note Turgenev changed his identity to Zeladny

I will probably have to share this with my friends so I don't want to get too personal, just please be careful in Catalina, whoever these people are, they can be dangerous. They have already tried to kill Jake and ruin his career. They have given drugs to try to get information from people.

All of these documents come from the think tank information we have gathered. Some of it may be duplicative but I want to be thorough, for your sake. Please ignore extraneous comments that may be included, sometimes we think out loud

This is what I have:
1. A timeline I wrote which has references
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3516

2. Jake and Dr. Z's combined logs
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3409

3. Evidence that Meg's log changed significantly
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3483

4. Important documents:
Proof of gov't time travel http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/download.php?id=1541

Dr.Z letter of acceptance at NRU http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/download.php?id=1540

Jake's letter from Becker http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/download.php?id=1549

Jake's power concerns http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/download.php?id=1550

Jake chat with Dr.Z http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/download.php?id=1551


4. We have had many chats with you, I will send those seperately, as I am having a little trouble with my email right now. We also have documents about Espoo, Spectrum and other information. I will post a copy of your last chat with us from December 19 th here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3456

I know you believe me and I hope you trust me.

It's late for me here now, so I will send the rest early tomorrow am your time
Have a safe trip to Catalina.

Your friend,

Rose



Good morning Caretaker

Did you sleep well?

Here are some more links for you. Funny I had the whole email drafted twice last night with everything in one email, and something happened each time I tried to send it.

Here here the chat logs we had from several chats with you:
Dec. 10 ,2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3409

Dec.9, 2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3392

Oct.26, 2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2933

Oct 24, 2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2908

Oct 18, 2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2845

OCt 17, 2003 (two)
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2829

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2835

OCt 14, 2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2769

Oct 10, 2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2670

Oct 5 ,2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2595

September 23, 2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2468

September 21, 2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2460

And there are chats with Jake as Shift:
October 3, 2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2542

Jake arrested
October 8,2003
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2639


There is more, but I don't want to completely inundate you.

I'm looking forward to speaking with you or hearing from you soon.
You might have missed an email I sent earlier because of the attachments.

Your friend,
Rose

P.S. Can I ask you a small favor? Please say good-bye before you leave the chat room; it's like having the door slammed in my (our) face (s) when you disappear like that. Smile
And thanks again for being willing to help us.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:30 am
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MageSteff
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Rose, generally speaking the forums are considered off limits to the PMs and in game gharacters UNLESS we give them access. Konamouse has already asked that we not give out the unfiction site forums in links to information. We will either need to back everything up to a free web page, or someone's page on their own server, We can start one over at Yahoo, or start a new Wiki just for info to give in game characters...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:44 am
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NashCarey
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eeek

so many rules..... Magesteff, I might ask you before doing anything. I want to cause no waves.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:29 am
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MageSteff
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Re: eeek

NashCarey wrote:
so many rules..... Magesteff, I might ask you before doing anything. I want to cause no waves.


One of the standing rules has always been that the forums would be one place to discuss the game without interferance from In Game Characters of PM's Provided the players themselves did not direct the in game characters to the forums. Some PM's may be nice enough that if we accidently direct them there, will ignore it and make excuses to not go look, but we do not always have that assurance. And to top it off Reggie has made references to the Brown and Blue Smart people from the very beginning (Pre-game) so the PMs may take any leeway we give them, especially where the characters are concerned.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:55 am
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AnthraX101
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If anyone needs some webspace to host in game stuff, let me know and I'll set up an account for you on my webserver.

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rose
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In the mIRC, we talked about this last night before I emailed the stuff to Caretaker. He couldn't get attachments on his blackvault account. Which was why he wasn't getting the other emails we sent him. If there hadn't been a problem, I would have sent everything as an attachment.

I didn't think this stuff was available anywhere else, I did the best I could by listing each document and chat log seperately where I could.

(Since we don't know when Caretaker will show up I was trying to get him as much information as I could.)

Anyway, I was doing this at 2:00am and having a lot of trouble getting it.

I think that in this instance Addle and others agreed it was OK. But I could have easily misunderstood what I was supposed to do.

Sorry if I messed up.

Thanks for the offer AnthraX, maybe we should think about puttting some stuff on seperately so we have access to send it to Caretaker, Jake or Reggie or whoever else we might have to convince about what has happened. Smile
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MageSteff
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rose wrote:

I think that in this instance Addle and others agreed it was OK. But I could have easily misunderstood what I was supposed to do.

Sorry if I messed up.

Thanks for the offer AnthraX, maybe we should think about puttting some stuff on seperately so we have access to send it to Caretaker, Jake or Reggie or whoever else we might have to convince about what has happened. Smile


Sorry if I came across a bit harsh. I just wanted to point out there are some people who would prefer to keep the boards off limits to the In -Game action, just so we have someplace where we don't have to question every message for clues or hints or have discussions scewed by "shills." I think the RedKore discussion soured because of the interaction by both RK_Marc and his shill.

AnthraX101, I would like to take you up on the generous offer you made, can we set it up so there are maybe 6 or 8 people who can have access to the site to do updates as needed? I'd also like to make an offer to the people over at CD in case any who don't regularly check here might be interested.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:02 pm
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rose
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Second email

I just checked and my second email to Caretaker bounced this morning because of a problem. Maybe his mailbox is full. I didn't resend it, of course. I won't delete it from above though, in case people decide to put some of this into a different place.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:40 pm
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addlepated
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Mage, the same concern was raised last night. However, the precedent has already been set. Remember the brouhaha back when you told Jake about the boards (when he was SHIFT) and he freaked out about it? Then he came back and said, "SHIFT: I've checked your think tank. Luckily you've made it look like a bunch of people playing a game.". With Acheron, we've been giving Unfiction links to the characters since at least October.

However, in future games this may not be the case, so we should just look on this as a special circumstance. In any event, I think it would be relatively difficult for a shill to come onto the boards and post extraneous information. In the first place, the PMs would have to want to do something like that; the PMs for Acheron already know about the boards and could have done that from the start. Secondly, we were talking to in-game characters. If they show up and post, I'd think it would be fairly obvious.

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AnthraX101
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Ok, I set up some space. See http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=33637 for details.

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Mmm, I'm with Steff on this one, the Unforums and #acheron should be OOC, #caretaker and #shift should be IC. I'm all for roleplaying, hell, I love it, but there should be an OOC haven where the "other reality" doesn't bleed in.

Anthrax has the right idea, setting up a space where we can do the IC thang. I might use that and save me some bandwidth. Wink Very Happy
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Rasputin, yes, I do agree with you. As a general rule, in-game characters should not be directed to look at player forums. _However_, like I said previously, there was a precedent set with Acheron back in the beginning where in-game characters had been sent links to some Unfiction files. In the context of the game, the characters explained the existence of Unfiction as a think tank site made up to look like we were playing a game. Therefore in the case of Acheron, it's ok. Other games it may not be, and is an interesting conversation to take to the Meta forum.

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rose
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You're all right. It would have been better to do this another way, but I didn't. And I'm truly sorry if it negatively affected anyone. I have nothing but respect and appreciation for the effort it takes to create and run the game as well as the effort it takes to play it.

Can we end this now, as it's done (and, I don't have a time machine to go back and fix it.)
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rose wrote:
You're all right. It would have been better to do this another way, but I didn't. And I'm truly sorry if it negatively affected anyone. I have nothing but respect and appreciation for the effort it takes to create and run the game as well as the effort it takes to play it.

Can we end this now, as it's done (and, I don't have a time machine to go back and fix it.)


Rose, it is OK truely it is. The discussion has moved from the specific incident into a discussion of Meta subjects. I have started a thread in the Meta section to continue this if anyone is interesed in adding a comment there it would be most welcome.
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rose wrote:
I don't have a time machine to go back and fix it.


You might, by the time this is all over. Very Happy
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