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What Would You like to see in a Slender series\arg?
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Looks like the author of Awake, Alone, Unafraid has read my post in this thread about excessively difficult code, the character is now posting that she's translating the Ogham. Thanks.

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I'd honestly like to see Slendy appear in different types of videos besides the cliches (Dream Diary, OMG MY FRIEND IS MISSING, etc.) Maybe have a series which starts out as a Tech How-To, Machinima series, or-hell-even a Let's Play (which someone* has already done and I'd like to see more of it). Be creative, guys; emulating MH or TT or EMH will not guarantee viewers.

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Gimme20dollaz wrote:
I'd honestly like to see Slendy appear in different types of videos besides the cliches (Dream Diary, OMG MY FRIEND IS MISSING, etc.) Maybe have a series which starts out as a Tech How-To, Machinima series, or-hell-even a Let's Play (which someone* has already done and I'd like to see more of it). Be creative, guys; emulating MH or TT or EMH will not guarantee viewers.


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Making a vlog nowadays is so hard with the amount of knowledge and scrutiny we have and give.
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Lumine wrote:
Andvalli wrote:
Don't use the Operator symbol. Jus' don't. Unless you can employ it creatively, though I don't see a lot of ways you could do that. (CaughNotSleeping did though I haven't checked in on the series in a bit. The protagonist already knew what the symbol represented and got frustrated when he saw it because he thought someone was fucking with him.)


I am curious to hear you elaborate more on this.


I don't know that there's anything to elaborate on. Most of the time it's just sort of thrown in as an afterthought and it's unnecessary. Asides from that I always kind of felt like it "belonged" to MH. Maybe it's branched too far into the rest of the mythos to be considered as such, I dunno.

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Andvalli wrote:
Lumine wrote:
Andvalli wrote:
Don't use the Operator symbol. Jus' don't. Unless you can employ it creatively, though I don't see a lot of ways you could do that. (CaughNotSleeping did though I haven't checked in on the series in a bit. The protagonist already knew what the symbol represented and got frustrated when he saw it because he thought someone was fucking with him.)


I am curious to hear you elaborate more on this.


I don't know that there's anything to elaborate on. Most of the time it's just sort of thrown in as an afterthought and it's unnecessary. Asides from that I always kind of felt like it "belonged" to MH. Maybe it's branched too far into the rest of the mythos to be considered as such, I dunno.


-Thinks she has a way to make it creative~!-
I also dislike the randomly slapped in approach many vlogs use just so they're recognized. It's quite annoying. :c

redwulf25_ci wrote:
A more genre savvy protagonist. Even the ones who claim to be familiar with the mythos from the start are still prone to "My friend is acting really strange lately and has a bad cough. Maybe they should go see a doctor. Oh and I'm being stalked by this tall guy in a suit. I think I'll go explore this scary mysterious forest now. And after that I'll go to the house that this guy who's making cryptic responses to my videos pointed out and I won't bring any back up or weapons."

I mean it probably wouldn't lead to long term survival but still I'd prefer it if they acted more reasonably, only going into the woods with a damn good reason, making sure someone came along to the mysterious house with them, was actually familiar with the signs that their friend just might be a Proxy . . .


HATE THIS! HATE SO HARD! I mean, really? Genre blind Jay is pure example of this. D8 Love MH but JAY, Y U SO DUMB?

I don't want to keep boasting or anything, but I have this planned too... Savvy characters. :3c

NOW, something I must add. I hate useless proxies. Ones that are there for no reason, Slendy was just like, "Lol, need you to do shit for me, I too lazy."
I know how useful proxies can be to do some things on film, maybe strike fear to where Slendy can't. Especially if you have a mannequin. But maybe some pre-planning to ring someone into playing Slendy. And if you can do that, try to worm your way into getting them to learn how to use stilts and manage long arms or something, THAT WOULD BE SWEET. Okay, totally hard to do, but it would be amazing.
Tl;dr, randomly placed proxies are annoying. OH, AND CODES TOO.

I'll be honest, I have a proxy in the ARG I'm planning, even though I had originally planned to not have one at all. They're one of the things I see overused. I made an exception with mine, though, because it's very plot important. If yours is plot-important, and makes the story more interesting, I say go for it. There are already people that do that. Like Patrick from MLA0, if you consider him a proxy. YEAH, HE'S IMPORTANT. But if your plot is in tact without the proxy, I say scrap them.

I just hate random proxies and the random codes and account hijackings and notes done by them. -/Endrant-
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This came to mind when watching the new Silver Selenide, a point in their favor that I haven't mentioned in this thread yet is that their audio distortion makes me think "OMG, Slenderman is near by!" instead of, like many otherwise great vlogs, "OMG, my fucking ears! Why are you hurting me, your loyal viewer?"

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I'm reviving this because I, for one, would like to see another Slendy series that can rival that of MH or EMH. Not saying that's what's out there know is not good.... just saying that what a lot of these vlog and blog makers think is good, is actually kind of cliche now. I sort of stumbled upon this thought when reading a post in EminentDirectory in which someone pointed out that the creator's only way to get noticed was to basically be troll. Which is kind of true, I believe these days, if your going to make a Slendy series you have to do something that will throw people for a loop. But really, doing something negative just to gain attention towards your vlog/blog? That's can't be the only way to do it.

The one big thing a lot of these series are missing is a good story line. They have a camera, they have a Slendy, and that's what a lot of creator's these days think they just need. It's kind of like watching those movies that are all special effects and in-your-face action, but no story line. There is a huge difference between story line and having scary situations. What made Marble Hornet's big was that they had a background for the series, they had a setting, and a story line. They gave their Slenderman a reason to be.

I want to try and urge creators to be more original and think of something that has not been done before. If they come up with something creative, original, and good, they would easily be noticed and get followers. Personally, I would love to see a vlog in which Slenderman is more of an urban legend in their small town, and people go off to investigate the history of the legend... and poof, look what happens. I don't know, just anything different than what we have already seen plenty of times in the past.

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JiingJiing wrote:
I'm reviving this because I, for one, would like to see another Slendy series that can rival that of MH or EMH. Not saying that's what's out there know is not good.... just saying that what a lot of these vlog and blog makers think is good, is actually kind of cliche now. I sort of stumbled upon this thought when reading a post in EminentDirectory in which someone pointed out that the creator's only way to get noticed was to basically be troll. Which is kind of true, I believe these days, if your going to make a Slendy series you have to do something that will throw people for a loop. But really, doing something negative just to gain attention towards your vlog/blog? That's can't be the only way to do it.

The one big thing a lot of these series are missing is a good story line. They have a camera, they have a Slendy, and that's what a lot of creator's these days think they just need. It's kind of like watching those movies that are all special effects and in-your-face action, but no story line. There is a huge difference between story line and having scary situations. What made Marble Hornet's big was that they had a background for the series, they had a setting, and a story line. They gave their Slenderman a reason to be.

I want to try and urge creators to be more original and think of something that has not been done before. If they come up with something creative, original, and good, they would easily be noticed and get followers. Personally, I would love to see a vlog in which Slenderman is more of an urban legend in their small town, and people go off to investigate the history of the legend... and poof, look what happens. I don't know, just anything different than what we have already seen plenty of times in the past.


Trust me, there are a ton of us who are seriously trying our best to continue despite the lack of players/fan support. I don't know what it is, but I think its the fact that there are so many series that throw them off from starting to watch a new one.

My crew are in the works, creating and producing Season 2 of One Bad Dream(mmzavp) and sometimes we just stop and wish we had a bigger fanbase. I mean, look at TJAP or 5zer0. They got roughly a thousand views per video.. Now on youtube that's not actually very much.

Its just hard to get noticed with so much media and not enough promise to fans that they will enjoy it. As hard as we try to make our series plot-oriented, scary, AND original, it appears a lot of the people don't care for it.
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JiingJiing wrote:
I'm reviving this because I, for one, would like to see another Slendy series that can rival that of MH or EMH. Not saying that's what's out there know is not good.... just saying that what a lot of these vlog and blog makers think is good, is actually kind of cliche now. I sort of stumbled upon this thought when reading a post in EminentDirectory in which someone pointed out that the creator's only way to get noticed was to basically be troll. Which is kind of true, I believe these days, if your going to make a Slendy series you have to do something that will throw people for a loop. But really, doing something negative just to gain attention towards your vlog/blog? That's can't be the only way to do it.

The one big thing a lot of these series are missing is a good story line. They have a camera, they have a Slendy, and that's what a lot of creator's these days think they just need. It's kind of like watching those movies that are all special effects and in-your-face action, but no story line. There is a huge difference between story line and having scary situations. What made Marble Hornet's big was that they had a background for the series, they had a setting, and a story line. They gave their Slenderman a reason to be.

I want to try and urge creators to be more original and think of something that has not been done before. If they come up with something creative, original, and good, they would easily be noticed and get followers. Personally, I would love to see a vlog in which Slenderman is more of an urban legend in their small town, and people go off to investigate the history of the legend... and poof, look what happens. I don't know, just anything different than what we have already seen plenty of times in the past.


It's funny because my newest tutorial video on how to write a slenderman series actually mentions a lot of these things... not that I'm trying to advertise my video. But another thing I noticed that the popular series have that the non popular ones don't is a good beginning. How the series starts really affects how well the series does. Mlanderson, marble hornets, tribetwelve, and everymanHYBRID all had a very unique way to kick off the series. So i guess before you start the series, come up with an interesting beginning.
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cochinosanchez wrote:
JiingJiing wrote:
I'm reviving this because I, for one, would like to see another Slendy series that can rival that of MH or EMH. Not saying that's what's out there know is not good.... just saying that what a lot of these vlog and blog makers think is good, is actually kind of cliche now. I sort of stumbled upon this thought when reading a post in EminentDirectory in which someone pointed out that the creator's only way to get noticed was to basically be troll. Which is kind of true, I believe these days, if your going to make a Slendy series you have to do something that will throw people for a loop. But really, doing something negative just to gain attention towards your vlog/blog? That's can't be the only way to do it.

The one big thing a lot of these series are missing is a good story line. They have a camera, they have a Slendy, and that's what a lot of creator's these days think they just need. It's kind of like watching those movies that are all special effects and in-your-face action, but no story line. There is a huge difference between story line and having scary situations. What made Marble Hornet's big was that they had a background for the series, they had a setting, and a story line. They gave their Slenderman a reason to be.

I want to try and urge creators to be more original and think of something that has not been done before. If they come up with something creative, original, and good, they would easily be noticed and get followers. Personally, I would love to see a vlog in which Slenderman is more of an urban legend in their small town, and people go off to investigate the history of the legend... and poof, look what happens. I don't know, just anything different than what we have already seen plenty of times in the past.


It's funny because my newest tutorial video on how to write a slenderman series actually mentions a lot of these things... not that I'm trying to advertise my video. But another thing I noticed that the popular series have that the non popular ones don't is a good beginning. How the series starts really affects how well the series does. Mlanderson, marble hornets, tribetwelve, and everymanHYBRID all had a very unique way to kick off the series. So i guess before you start the series, come up with an interesting beginning.


Although I agree with you, I'm going to play devils advocate. Most vlogs that start out bad don't get good. There is no attempt at writing a good plot ever.
A few vlogs that started bad can be really good if they want to be, let's look a Tribe Twelve, even though the begging was good,it was to close to MH for it to gain notoriety, but now it's one of the best out there.
I agree with you, and a good beginning is sometimes the most important thing for a vlog.

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How about a toy nerd talking about Transformers and such, and then get's stalked by slenderman. And then dimensionhopping ensues.

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Do we need a vlog with no distorting and in plain daylight made. Course people could have the opening be running and the driving off then we get into vlogs. How about more different location Slenderman in urban place with no forest. How about Slenderman on crusie ship or island. I like things like the plague doctors or the rake over proxies now.

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I'd like more vlogs/blogs to show signs that they have been clearly planned out from the start as opposed to being semi-improvised.

Say you're making a vlog: don't just leave it open ended. Get your cast and crew together, decide how long you want your vlog to run for (bearing in mind that if you go for more than a year or so you'll almost certainly have people either dropping out or being logistically unable to devote much time to the series due to life changes like graduation/work/etc,), work out how often you can reasonably expect to meet up to film material, anticipate that at least half the material you shoot you'll have to scrap and at least half the times you set aside for filming material will be postphoned or cancelled, and work out the absolute minimum number of entries you expect to be able to make in the time period you've allotted to yourself.

Then come up with a story you can tell satisfyingly in that number of episodes, planning it out from beginning to end with a clear idea of what happens in each episode and contingency plans for in case you lose a major actor or aren't able to complete one of the episodes for logistical reasons. Then you've got a tight schedule planned out with an absolutely minimalistic number of entries to tell your story, and any extra videos you find you have the time to produce can be a bonus.

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
I'd like more vlogs/blogs to show signs that they have been clearly planned out from the start as opposed to being semi-improvised.

Say you're making a vlog: don't just leave it open ended. Get your cast and crew together, decide how long you want your vlog to run for (bearing in mind that if you go for more than a year or so you'll almost certainly have people either dropping out or being logistically unable to devote much time to the series due to life changes like graduation/work/etc,), work out how often you can reasonably expect to meet up to film material, anticipate that at least half the material you shoot you'll have to scrap and at least half the times you set aside for filming material will be postphoned or cancelled, and work out the absolute minimum number of entries you expect to be able to make in the time period you've allotted to yourself.

Then come up with a story you can tell satisfyingly in that number of episodes, planning it out from beginning to end with a clear idea of what happens in each episode and contingency plans for in case you lose a major actor or aren't able to complete one of the episodes for logistical reasons. Then you've got a tight schedule planned out with an absolutely minimalistic number of entries to tell your story, and any extra videos you find you have the time to produce can be a bonus.


I think this is a very logical approach, and something I would expect many of these vlog makers to plan out instead of just "Hey, I have a camera! Let's start filming something!" Going at your own pace and speed and sticking to a plan is probably what made MH so successful.

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