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morscata12
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 		Since Seth may be back, and there's some speculation about the identity/identities of ToTheArk, I did some digging to find a post from 2009 that stuck with me:

MrHawthorne wrote:
Alright I think that I found something else that solidifies my assumption that totheark is the camera operator from entry #9.

The blocks of slashes in Regards have always been a mystery of sorts to me. Today I had an idea. I remembered that the blocks change sizes when they flash. Some thought this was morse code, but I think it's simpler than that.

From my count the first set of slashes flashes twice, the second flashes twice and the third flashes three times. All together 223.

I immediately thought that this was a timestamp, so I paused Entry #9 at 2:23, and who is in perfect view? The camera operator. Regards.


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morscata12 wrote:
Since Seth may be back, and there's some speculation about the identity/identities of ToTheArk, I did some digging to find a post from 2009 that stuck with me:

MrHawthorne wrote:
Alright I think that I found something else that solidifies my assumption that totheark is the camera operator from entry #9.

The blocks of slashes in Regards have always been a mystery of sorts to me. Today I had an idea. I remembered that the blocks change sizes when they flash. Some thought this was morse code, but I think it's simpler than that.

From my count the first set of slashes flashes twice, the second flashes twice and the third flashes three times. All together 223.

I immediately thought that this was a timestamp, so I paused Entry #9 at 2:23, and who is in perfect view? The camera operator. Regards.


...except we can also clearly see Alex, Tim, and Sarah. Seth *is* looking straight at the camera, but the prevailing theory seems to be that the slashes decode to the word "look" (which then matches up with the word "closely" that flashes later). Freaky coincidence, though, and cool theory, regardless of whether it's right or not.

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morscata12 wrote:
Since Seth may be back, and there's some speculation about the identity/identities of ToTheArk, I did some digging to find a post from 2009 that stuck with me:

MrHawthorne wrote:
Alright I think that I found something else that solidifies my assumption that totheark is the camera operator from entry #9.

The blocks of slashes in Regards have always been a mystery of sorts to me. Today I had an idea. I remembered that the blocks change sizes when they flash. Some thought this was morse code, but I think it's simpler than that.

From my count the first set of slashes flashes twice, the second flashes twice and the third flashes three times. All together 223.

I immediately thought that this was a timestamp, so I paused Entry #9 at 2:23, and who is in perfect view? The camera operator. Regards.


makes sense. i always assumed it was seth or brian. i think that everyone figured out it was brian and they had to now make it seth to kill predictability value anyway

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Zachariah Pajarito
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 		I still stand by my theory like I did even when everyone said, "oh no it can't be Seth, he's not coming back to the series!". these most recent entries seem to solidify my theory so let me give you some food for thought. seths "death" was very ambiguous, as oppossed to Brians "death", where we saw a body being dragged off screen. tim said it twice- "I'm not the movie person." so who is? Seth is not only a film student, but also was the camera man. who would have behind the scenes footage? who would've seen the entire marblehornets filming through? the man filming it all, of course. the motivation? sarah. sarah never came back. she could be a tta member, but she's probably for realsies dead, and I think we'll see her less than ambiguos death very soon. her and seth were romantic together. he has a more direct reasoning to solve all this Operator business than Tim does, he lost a loved one. so Tim and Seth started helping Jay, cautiously of course because they don't know who's on whose side here. one more thing. lots of times tta videos are just creepy codes. but once in awhile, there's something more there, some sort of symbolism, something less simple, there's a mastermind. something you'll notice in these entries is film symobology. i.e. inquiry, with the projector. it's Seths passion. his brain is damaged but he remembers his love of film, and uses that to send messages relevant to the past shooting of marble hornets. seth and tim have different agendas but have similar goals. tta is a group, a union between them, to sort this all out.

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punxtr
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Zarggg wrote:
Masami Akita is the Operator.

New headcanon.


Smile Glad to know I'm not the only one that likes that /noise/.
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Zachariah Pajarito wrote:
her and seth were romantic together.



Where did you get that from?


Keep in mind here that there has only been one casualty that we can be certain of - Bruce/Beardy, and that wasn't directly the Operator's actions. We've seen hints that people have died, but given how things are going, I think we can't assume they are for certain. I take your point about seeing Brian being dragged off looking pretty final, but Seth looked pretty screwed too, and if we make a similar assumption about Sarah then we're really starting to run out of candidates for TTA!

Remember Alex's "everyone's gone" speech? Whilst I supppose we can trust Alex about as far as we can throw him, he seems to be mistaken or lying: of the people he lists, we know for definite two (Tim and Jay) are alive and kicking, and we believe that there's at least one of the others still around to be Hoody.

I don't know. If one of the team had died, wouldn't somebody know about it? I mean, Jay's memory is a bit fried, but surely several young people vanishing in the town where they were filming would have been noticed, if just by friends and family? Then again, if everybody survived, what the hell have they been doing these past few years?

Gah. Confused.

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punxtr
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 		Oh man, maybe the GMX videos. They were very hard to hear, but they said Sarah and Seth were dating or something. I forget. That's irl, by the way, as I remember it.
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punxtr wrote:
Oh man, maybe the GMX videos. They were very hard to hear, but they said Sarah and Seth were dating or something. I forget. That's irl, by the way, as I remember it.


Ya, at GMX and the S1 DVD they said the actor who plays Seth (Named Seth) is the actress who played Sarah's (Not named Sarah) boyfriend.

Not that that means anything IG, except that if they're in contact with Seth they probably are with Sarah, which was already clear from the S2 DVD anyway, so Sarah could easily appear again. As a matter of fact, they said at GMX that the S1 characters not seen in S2 would appear in S3, so she probably will.

I'm prepared for Hoody to be Brian, Seth or Sarah. I just hope it's one of them, since I don't think any other characters would make sense, and I don't want it to be some random guy we haven't seen yet inserted this late in the story. I hope it's Seth honestly; I just think it would be the best explanation to the whole missing audio totheark thing.

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GameGodOfAll
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 		I am feeling a TTA tonight........

I've predicted these before.

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 		OOG:
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Sarah and Seth (the actors) were dating at the time Season 1 was happening. As a result, Sarah got a couple cameos, particularly the gazebo shoot with Tim. However, they have since broken up and it is unlikely Sarah will return to the series.


I've been starting to think lately that perhaps Brian is TTA and/or Hoody. I know some people were thinking that back in season 2, and given his appearance in 56-42 and the tapes Jay got from Tim, it seems likely that he's involved.

Of course, there's a "lack of evidence" problem for Brian to be TTA, so I'm starting to lean towards Tim being TTA (at least, the man behind the videos) and Brian being at least Hoody, not necessarily being involved with the videos.

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Zarggg wrote:
OOG:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Sarah and Seth (the actors) were dating at the time Season 1 was happening. As a result, Sarah got a couple cameos, particularly the gazebo shoot with Tim. However, they have since broken up and it is unlikely Sarah will return to the series.


I've been starting to think lately that perhaps Brian is TTA and/or Hoody. I know some people were thinking that back in season 2, and given his appearance in 56-42 and the tapes Jay got from Tim, it seems likely that he's involved.

Of course, there's a "lack of evidence" problem for Brian to be TTA, so I'm starting to lean towards Tim being TTA (at least, the man behind the videos) and Brian being at least Hoody, not necessarily being involved with the videos.

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I thought it was the other way around, that Sarah was part of the series and Seth was only in Entry 9 because he was with her that day. That's why people thought he was a one off character because until 54, his actor was only in that entry.

But yeah, I agree that Brian is likely part of TTA with Tim.

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 		We talking about who TTA is again? :p

I feel like I need to repost this here.

I was traveling along the broken boring roads of Indonesia when I started thinking about Marble Hornets.

Everyone's been speculating about what the random faces mean, could they be faces from the cast, faces of people who've been slendy-fied, whatever. Then I remembered that TTA referred to himself in the thing in the audio: do I help or do I kill?

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Then I started thinking, a bit OOG, but isn't it odd that Jay decides to post on twitter right after the TTA video that he thinks there might be multiple people behind TTA?



It then hit me, and it seems to be almost overtly obvious now.

The whole video, TTA was referring to himself and Jay being confused about TTA. He was almost mocking Jay asking, "Who are you TTA!?"

The people in the blurred photos are members of the ToTheArk account.
We've at least identified one of them as Tim, and maybe another as Brian and Alex.

I'm thinking that the ones that have Masky (I'm not sure if which of the ones those are, and if they are even in the same sign group) are made by Tim.

It's a toss up on which person made which on the other ones.

But seriously, I think my theory combined with http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=868703#868703 is going to bring us more than a few steps closer to who totheark are.

Entry #51 even gives Brian a motive for becoming a totheark member, so I believe as we go farther along in the MH mythology, the more these combined theories seem more probable.

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ReynardtaFox
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GameGodOfAll wrote:
I am feeling a TTA tonight........

I've predicted these before.


I'm hoping we get something soon. A tweet, an entry, a tta. It's been a bit quiet lately. C'mon Jay, we know you've got plenty of time on your hands since you were able to stalk an antique store for months and sit outside of a doctor's office for a week. You've got a bag of tapes and nothing better to do; let's see some footage!

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Zarggg wrote:
OOG:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Sarah and Seth (the actors) were dating at the time Season 1 was happening. As a result, Sarah got a couple cameos, particularly the gazebo shoot with Tim. However, they have since broken up and it is unlikely Sarah will return to the series.


I've been starting to think lately that perhaps Brian is TTA and/or Hoody. I know some people were thinking that back in season 2, and given his appearance in 56-42 and the tapes Jay got from Tim, it seems likely that he's involved.

Of course, there's a "lack of evidence" problem for Brian to be TTA, so I'm starting to lean towards Tim being TTA (at least, the man behind the videos) and Brian being at least Hoody, not necessarily being involved with the videos.


OOG and not-so-related...

A couple of months ago I saw a publication in Troy's facebook wall by Sarah. She wrote him that some guys have recognized her from the MH entry, two years after it was filmed. She thanked him, etc etc...

And a little detail. Is the actress playing Sarah in the MH trailer from the DVD the same of Entry 9? If she is, that could be another OOG detail we should consider.
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