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onetruepurple
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I'm going to be so smug when Hoody is finally revealed to be Brian...

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VincentPain wrote:
TheFuss wrote:
Just rewatched it - did it always have "i was close by" in the description? Or was that added by TTA in one of the hacks?


No, that was the original description. Jay was telling us that was in the area, that's all.


It just struck me that it sounds like something TTA might say as well - after all, he was close by. I'm wondering whether J unknowingly uploads and edits for TTA and Tim gets the footage

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The reason I pointed it out is that it's an example of Alex finding an Operator symbol. Finding, not making.

The implication would be that he did it and doesn't remember, that TO draws them or causes them to appear, or that there have been others before Alex who have drawn the symbols as a warning. (e.g. Tim) That last option is something that seems more and more likely with recent entries.


So it could have been Tim who drew the operator symbol for Alex to find and to attract the big chap's attention, to distract Alex while he runs back and... films Jay getting things out of his car. Which seems a bit elaborate. I wonder what happened when Jay caught up to Alex after #13 though.

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TheFuss wrote:
So it could have been Tim who drew the operator symbol for Alex to find and to attract the big chap's attention, to distract Alex while he runs back and... films Jay getting things out of his car. Which seems a bit elaborate. I wonder what happened when Jay caught up to Alex after #13 though.


Woah, woah. I'm not say he'd have drawn it for that situation. He may not have even drawn it that year. Remember, Slendy makes people go a little nutty - and Timasky is no exception. Regardless, somebody drew that symbol, and it doesn't look like it was Alex. Somebody was connected to TO before Alex was.

onetruepurple wrote:
I'm going to be so smug when Hoody is finally revealed to be Brian...


Look at Brian's build in #51. Then look at Hoodie's build in #45. Brian is not that skinny, nor are his hips as wide/wider than his shoulders. Hoodie is almost certainly female, or at least has a feminine figure, neither of which are things we can use to describe Brian. (Although I would be highly amused if, somehow, Brian tuned out to be female)

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VincentPain wrote:
Additionally, there are only 4 (3, if #39's appearance really is hoodie) people I can think of it being:
Jay (only if the #39 appearance is NOT Hoodie)
Sarah (We haven't heard much about her, she and Brian likely shared the same fate)
Amy
Jessica


Wait, why can't Seth be hoodie? It's never established that he's dead in entry #22, and the hand around the wall suggests (to me at least) that Timasky is there to pull him out of harm's way, the same way he did to Jay in entry #18. Also the fact that whoever is uploading TTA videos knows their way around a video camera suggests that it's someone who likes cameras, so I wouldn't be surprised if hoodie/masky are Seth/Tim with Alex's spare camera. If that's the case, and if exit wasn't filmed by Alex then it must have been filmed by someone who was around while Marble Hornets was being filmed, so that almost rules out Amy and Jessica. Oh, and of course Jay could not have filmed himself like that!

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aidansean wrote:
VincentPain wrote:
Additionally, there are only 4 (3, if #39's appearance really is hoodie) people I can think of it being:
Jay (only if the #39 appearance is NOT Hoodie)
Sarah (We haven't heard much about her, she and Brian likely shared the same fate)
Amy
Jessica


Wait, why can't Seth be hoodie? It's never established that he's dead in entry #22, and the hand around the wall suggests (to me at least) that Timasky is there to pull him out of harm's way, the same way he did to Jay in entry #18. Also the fact that whoever is uploading TTA videos knows their way around a video camera suggests that it's someone who likes cameras, so I wouldn't be surprised if hoodie/masky are Seth/Tim with Alex's spare camera. If that's the case, and if exit wasn't filmed by Alex then it must have been filmed by someone who was around while Marble Hornets was being filmed, so that almost rules out Amy and Jessica. Oh, and of course Jay could not have filmed himself like that!


...except we never actually *see* Hoody until Season 2. That makes it perfectly plausible that whoever is Hoody was not working with Masky until then, which means that Jessica and Amy are not out of the running. Personally I seriously doubt that it's Jessica, but Amy, while still doubtful, feels like a possibility.
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VincentPain wrote:
Look at Brian's build in #51. Then look at Hoodie's build in #45.
OOG
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Troy was Hoody in #45


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Seems to me the unconscious vs. sleeping/breathing vs. not breathing debate is moot at this point. We just don't have enough info to write Brian off as dead. Hell, for all we know, there may not be such a state as dead after one encounters The Operator up close and personal. Tim's obviously suffering through something in that same video; he could easily be coming out of whatever state Brian's just gone into. We don't have enough framework to decide who's dead and who isn't.
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too many people base theories on

1) things the creators would never think of (brian being unconcious for long enough leads to death) - this is not lost, the story doesn't take miniscule details that would translate differently in real life into consideration most of the time

2) OOG elements that are restricted because of funding/crew (troy playing hoody in 45 and tim playing him in 41)

3) things that have been explained and overlooked (bullet casing is probably from alex shooting at slendy, blood in sink is clearly from slendersickness since the trail led to a pill bottle)


please take these things into consideration when making future theories. too often i read things like "more than one person uses the hoody outfit didn't you see how fat he was in 41 and how skinny he was in 45?"

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onetruepurple wrote:
I'm going to be so smug when Hoody is finally revealed to be Brian...


You aren't exactly a lone wolf when it comes to this train of thought.

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pravado wrote:
please take these things into consideration when making future theories. too often i read things like "more than one person uses the hoody outfit didn't you see how fat he was in 41 and how skinny he was in 45?"


I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you couldn't even see Hoody below his shoulders in Entry #41...

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It's discussions like this that really make me facepalm... It is extremely likely that Brian is Hoody. C'mon, thing about it... Masky and Hoody are the only two members of TTA we have seen for sure. Think about Entry #51, Tim and Brian were both in that hospital, and were also attacked(?)/exposed to The Operator at that exact moment.

Speaking of TTA, I'm going to remind everyone of a proven fact regarding them:

- They hate Alex Kralie

We all know that is a fact, they have stated it explicitly. Alex has done something to them that gives them justified reasons to have such hatred.

"Them"

"They"

Yes people, I used multi-person terms. I know this isn't everyone, but I know there are people who say:

"Who IS ToTheArk??"

Allow me to correct this statement, for those of who you say/ask/use it:

"Who ARE ToTheArk??"

Yes, "Who ARE" is the correct term. ToTheArk is a group, guys. Not a single person. It's not a definite fact, but it is an extremely likely theory, and if it's wrong I will severely shocked.

While it's not proved to be true/false, there is enough evidence to suggest that is is true. And yes, I know TTA videos sometimes use singular terms such as "I" or "Me." However, I want you guys to remember one of Jay's tweets:

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Those videos are so inconsistent. It's like they're being made by different people. No way I can prove that, though.


Simply put, if the videos are made by different people then whoever makes a video would refer to themselves only.

I know, it may seems like I'm straying from the topic but I'm going full circle, trust me.

TTA is a group, that is highly likely if not definite.

Quick Re-Cap:

- TTA hates Alex Kralie

- TTA is almost proven to be a group of people

Figured I might as well mention this, please prove me if I am wrong. Haven't we seen (Can't remember what video) four masks? If not, I am mistaken but for now I will assume this to be true.

ToTheArk = Group

4 Masks = 4 People

4 People = Group

ToTheArk = Hatred for Alex

Four people, all who have a massive grudge against one person because of what he has done. If Alex led the cast of Marble Hornets to death, well then one would assume that if those people were alive then they would hate them. Yup, all four of em'...

Wait a second... Four...

- Tim
- Brian
- Seth
- Sarah

FOUR.

Forgive me if I am leaving a lot of potential evidence regarding what I am about to say, I just want to wrap this up.

Alex Kralie led the cast members to their deaths (Excluding Jay for some reason), instead they survived with a full memory of what Alex did. In turn those four became a group that is dedicated to ending Alex once and for all. Tim is Masky, and partakes in TTA merryment. Brian is most likely Hoody, who also partakes in said merryment. Both Tim and Brian were in that hospital and 'fed' to The Operator. Thus, if TTA is a group and they are the original cast of Marble Hornets, then it is likely to assume that Brian is Hoody since Tim is Masky.

Brian and Tim were together in that hospital and (assuming any of this post is correct) are most likely the first two members of ToTheArk.

TL;DR: Brian is Hoody, if you say otherwise please suck it up and read the full post.

Forgive me if this post is unorganized, but I am tired and will now take a nap.

FULL CIRCLE

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VincentPain wrote:
Look at Brian's build in #51. Then look at Hoodie's build in #45. Brian is not that skinny, nor are his hips as wide/wider than his shoulders. Hoodie is almost certainly female, or at least has a feminine figure, neither of which are things we can use to describe Brian. (Although I would be highly amused if, somehow, Brian tuned out to be female)

Like others have said:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
On the DVD (and maybe somewhere else, I don't know), it is revealed that Troy (Jay) was the actor who played as Hoody in Entry #45.

OOG elements like this need to be taken into account so theories that include judging someone's build aren't taken into effect. Once these facts are known, making theories like in your above quote become null. Sorry, not trying to come off like a dick. I just want people to realize this.

VincentPain wrote:
Entry #13 @ 0:35. That's Alex filming. Think about it.

Did I miss something here? I'm pretty sure it's generally assumed that Alex is filming at that part. Quick recap: Alex has the camera. He's low on battery and tells Jay to get some more. We see Jay leave. The scene changes to filming of some branches and the sky above. The very next scene at 0:35 we see Alex brushing off the ground to reveal the Operator symbol. Did you mean to say something else? I'm confused, because I'm positive everyone assumes and knows it's Alex filming at that part.

VincentPain wrote:
TLDR? Here's a summary:
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Hoodie is probably Jessica.
...
Brian is probably dead.

These theories aren't really valid. Again, not trying to come as an asshole, it's just that your only words backing up Jessica being Hoody is that you went back and watched Entry #32 again and now you think it's most likely Jessica. I'm sure you have a reason for why you said that though. Otherwise though, there's no definitive proof that it is her.

Same thing with Brian. All we know is that he was running around with the camera trying to find Alex, saw Tim in the corner with a blanket, turned around and saw the Operator, and then it fuzzed out to Brian being dragged through a doorway. There's no definitive proof that he is dead or was dying at that part. Like mokie said, he could be "slendersleeping," he could have fainted, etc.

All you can say for both of these theories is that they may or may not be true, which you could say about a lot of things in this series. A whole lot.

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I agree on TTA consisting of multiple people but I think it's just a duo: Masky and Hoody.

4 masks? I can only count 3 if you consider Skully to be a mask (come on people: 1 sec of overlay over someone's face in some garbled piece of video doesn't make for a good introduction for another character, especially if you consider that we haven't seen it again since that entry).

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Did we ever confirm that the Hoody from #41 was the same one from #45? Remember that whole thing with his hoody being white and his mask thing looking different and stuff like that? And then people were saying that the darkness and the nightvision of the camera made it look white.

Is it generally believed that they are the same? I'm still up in the air with this.

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In #22, everything has that gross shade of gray/green/white because of the nightvision, I'm guessing Hoody is no exception. Very Happy

This sort of night vision creeps me out hardcore and I don't know why, it must be hitting some particular nerve in my brain...

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