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[LOCKED] [OT] Let's have ANOTHER rage thread!
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Grumplestiltskin
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Geneaux486 wrote:

There are those of us who think that his posts, obnoxiously stated or not, are worth responding to, because, as Paladin pointed out, his observations do carry weight.

His arguments (in the strict, debating-type sense) may very well be good, but his bickering is annoying, bad form, and in a lot of instances, completely against the TOS.

What I was thinking with my suggestion was that if he can't get anyone to play with him when he's being obnoxious, maybe he'll buy a clue and think about being a smidgen less douchey. I don't think the admins can do much to alter his behavior, much less his attitude, but his peers... that might make a dent.

Then again, maybe not. It sounds like he's been like this since... ever.

Maybe those who do reply to him could try modelling the behavior they'd like to see. At the very least, it would cut the bickering in half.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:03 pm

Lithp
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It's hard for me to believe that any of you don't realize that it's not the opinion, it's the "RAGE AT EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ENTRY RAAAAH" that he does.

That IS opinion. There is no Law of the Universe that says that an opinion must be positive &/or sugar coated. Have you considered the possibility that it's not that we "don't get it," but that you're reframing the issue so that you don't have to admit that you shouldn't be bitching about him, least of all on the Entry threads?

Again, yes, he shouldn't be raging on the Entry threads, but dogpiling on him is proving SO helpful in stopping that.

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You guys don't really want to wind up making pretend treaties, do you?

I don't know, it might have helped if we'd ever done something like this for FFVII.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:15 pm

Exetera
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Geneaux486 wrote:

There are those of us who think that his posts, obnoxiously stated or not, are worth responding to, because, as Paladin pointed out, his observations do carry weight.

He's good at saying things authoritatively, but as it turns out they're usually wrong. If you were to actually read his posts, you'd discover he doesn't make any non-obvious points that aren't decisively debunked within a page. Look at his first post in the Entry #70 thread, for instance - his only actual conclusion was that this entry meant that obviously Amy would be TTA now. Rolling Eyes

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:24 pm

Marble Hornets
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Exetera wrote:

Geneaux486 wrote:

There are those of us who think that his posts, obnoxiously stated or not, are worth responding to, because, as Paladin pointed out, his observations do carry weight.

I just reread it and I'm interpreting it differently. He even goes on to say later that he doesn't think she will be TTA, and gives reasons why he thinks that. He stated that he could see them going down that route, not that this is what he definitely thinks will happen. I've spent a lot of time reading old threads in the past 2 days having just made an account and finding this minefield of data to analyze, but he makes a lot of great points and connections in topics that I would have never made. I can totally see why people give him a bad rap though. He shuts down a lot of really shitty theories, but does them it in a moody way. Not to say he doesn't make bad theories himself, as I've seen a few, but who doesn't from time to time?

Regardless, I'm posting in the rage thread because rewatching the series now there are two scenes that always annoy me. Both of them are in season 3. Tim is a little far from the camera and says something, and Troy asks him what he just said (in case the camera didn't pick it up), rather than reshooting the scene that they weren't that far into in the first place.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:07 am

Grumplestiltskin
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Marble Hornets wrote:

...there are two scenes that always annoy me. Both of them are in season 3. Tim is a little far from the camera and says something, and Troy asks him what he just said (in case the camera didn't pick it up), rather than reshooting the scene that they weren't that far into in the first place.

Oh, just think of it as a bit of cin�ma v�rit� -- there are plenty of times in real life when someone mumbles and someone else says "what?"

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:21 am

Geneaux486
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Exetera wrote:

He's good at saying things authoritatively, but as it turns out they're usually wrong.

My opinion on it lies somewhere in the middle. He doesn't know the entries quite as well as he claims to, though he does know what he's talking about a lot of the time. People acting like he's some kind of superfan of the show is inacurrate, as is the argument that those of us who consistently like the entires are fanboys. Still, I don't think such drastic statements would need to be made if we didn't bust his chops for being critical so much. Regardless of who started the mud slinging, you give what you get, negativity breeds more negativity, etc. All of us who've participated in this have been guilty of it at some point.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:41 am

Drksrpnt
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Lithp wrote:

No, it's not an opinion, it's pointless anger at something he has no control over.

Again, if he said "I don't like this entry for reasons x/y/z" it would be fine.

But he always states his negative opinions in a douchey way. And THAT is the issue here.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:01 am

Lithp
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Now explain to me why Pravado can't rage at the Entries, but you can rage at Pravado.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:36 am

Oransel
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:11 am

paladin181
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Oh FFS are we STILL at it with the Pravado thing?! Let it go, man. He's douchey. He's also a human being who didn't attack anyone here, but rather the things he didn't like about MH. Was his way of criticizing MH the best? No. But lay off the dude seriously. You are all attacking him personally and repeatedly over a comment he made about a show. This is the shit that gets threads closed down.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:11 am

Exetera
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Lithp wrote:

Now explain to me why Pravado can't rage at the Entries, but you can rage at Pravado.

I'd be totally fine with it if Pravado ever seemed to have a logical reason for disliking an entry. Remember that his reason this time was that obviously it meant that Amy would be TTA, though he did (thankfully) backpedal later. His schtick is bile for bile's sake, and that's extremely irritating.

paladin181 wrote:

Oh FFS are we STILL at it with the Pravado thing?!

It's the rage thread! It's here for RAAAAAAGE! Although, yeah, I'm glad we're out of the entry thread now.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:40 am
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Magyk
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Exetera wrote:

Lithp wrote:

Now explain to me why Pravado can't rage at the Entries, but you can rage at Pravado.

I don't need a logical reason to go in that thread and praise the entry. I did that, I went in there and posted "I really liked this entry" and not much else and no one raged at me. How is that any different than me showing up and saying, "Well this entry fucking sucked."

tl;dr: You don't need a "logical reason" to have an opinion since an opinion is not based on fact.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:13 am

Exetera
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Magyk wrote:

It is irritating when you post contentless praise, but since you're not a dick about it no one really cares. Note that people who just say "aww, man, this entry wasn't very good" tend not to get raged at either.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:20 am

Ristar
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Exetera wrote:

Magyk wrote:

The thing is that people do the only thing that you shoudn't do when someone doesn't like something they do. They defend it like it will make a difference if you are right or wrong, people seem like they can't tolerate the fact that some people might not like what they just watched and try to do everything to change their minds instead of respecting the fact that people may have different opinions about certain entries.

What people should do is just say ''Well, you didn't like it, but we do'' and that's it, the rest of the pages of the thread should be used to discuss the entry itself

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:31 am

Geneaux486
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Ristar wrote:

What people should do is just say ''Well, you didn't like it, but we do'' and that's it, the rest of the pages of the thread should be used to discuss the entry itself

Well technically the topic should never come up in the actual entry thread at all. Still, outside of that thread, if someone goes into detail about why they think the entry is good or bad, and someone else disagrees with the points they have made, it is certainly not unreasonable to debate those points. It's not about changing the op's mind, it's about presenting additional perspectives that match it in depth so there isn't just one person's opinion floating around. AKA a forum.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:35 am

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