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[jorapi]

If you look at the bottom of the door, it kind of looks like a foot moving.

However, after I stabilized the video, it now looks more like something in that room, that just kind of slips out of perspective, then slightly back in as the camera shifts.

I think I was just looking too hard.

[Lyssian]

Re: along for the ride

[Jamocha101]

Guys, I know this post is long, but bear with it. I'm sure it can't be too bad.

Okay, so I watched the entry just this morning, but I had absolutely no time to come here and post my thoughts; I did read the first few pages of the thread, but needless to say, I didn't read through all of it, so odds are, I am repeating stuff that has already been said. I just want to share my thoughts with everyone.

I'm a little afraid that my theories will come off stupid because I haven't seen anyone else mention the stuff I came up with, but I still want to get it out there. If there are holes to poke in my speculation that are plausible, I beseech you to point them out. Also, I will list my thoughts for your convenience:

1.Tim said is was a long time between when he told Alex about the place and when they actually went there, so something happened that made the trio (Alex, Tim, Brian) cancel their plans on that Saturday to go to the building. That would explain why Brian forgot that Tim had been the one that suggetsed they go there and why he bought Alex's lie that he and Seth found it.

2. I had a very strong suspiscion that the "annex" Alex asked about was the building from Entry #51, and that the place in this entry was not the place that Brian got attacked at in the aforesaid entry. It couldn't have been anyway, because the Entry #51 building was one story, whilst this one was several.

3. Tim really did not want to go over to the annex. He knew something about it, or had a history with it.

4. It seems obvious to me that the building that was in this entry was the building in Entry #22, especailly when a "basement" was mentioned in that entry, and Tim mentioned something about it. The interior look of the two seem similar, if my memory serves me correctly.

5. When Alex hit Tim, he most likely hit Tim in the head to knock him out instantly. I reasonably suspect this since Tim didn't make any distressed noises.

6. The Operator was nearby, most likely puppeting Alex into hurting Tim. If that were the case, what does the Operator want with Tim, or any other of the victims for that matter? And of course, this question is a very old one, but I just figured I would throw it in here for reinforcement. :3

7. Tim had Slendysickness in this entry, too.

8. Tim was probably carried/dragged over to the annex and was left there until Alex brought Brian over the next day. Why? I don't know.

9. No, "Bones" on the wall does not mean anything. OOG Tim found the building a long time before they shot this entry, and the grafitti was there before they started shooting with the location. It was like the bottle tree in Entry #53. It just happened to be there.

10. Seth likely shared a similar fate with Tim and Brian since he was supposed to come later that day, and just so happened to feel "sick" the next day. Question is, why Tim wasn't immediately disposed of by the Operator like Brian and possibly Seth? I probably should remind that Tim couldn't have been since he was in the annex later.

11. Alex probably didn't use a rock or whatever because he, for some reason, did not want to kill Tim. If he did, he wouldn't have been alive in Entry #51, and he wouldn't be alive now.

12. I don't think Alex is "reserving a spot" for Jay, or whatever, because he did these deeds to the other cast memners nearly six years ago. Also, I think he thought he already killed Jay because he hallucinated, thinking Bruce was Jay in the tunnel. Possibly.

13. I can't help but wonder why Tim was found in the annex instead of where ever the Operator would have taken him to get slendyraped. I thought that maybe he had found some way to escape, but was too weak to go anywhere, so he took cover in the annex, the nearest shelter. The Operator might have also strategically put him there, but of course, I can't be sure.

14. There was some weird thunking/coughing going on at the end of the video. Wasn't sure what to make of that.

Those are pretty much my initial thoughts. It's been bugging me to share all day, so I feel good now that I could get this out. I would appreciate criticisms, resposnes, whatever. But please don't flame me if there is something about these speculations that makes you mad. ^_^'

[12th]

Right now I'm going with the theory that Tim was going to use this opportunity to dispose of Alex, but Alex got the jump on him.

Mostly this is based on the idea that we don't have any evidence at present that Alex knew where Hospital of Doom was prior to going there with Tim when he did so. Based solely on what we've seen so far, Tim is the only person who would have known where it was. As such, it would appear to make sense that Tim was the one who placed the Operator symbol.

Is it possible that Alex followed Tim there, or they discussed the exact location of the hospital before? Sure. It would have been off-screen, and we don't have supporting evidence to show such a conversation happened at any point. Up until this thread revealed the Operator symbol present, I assumed that Alex's attack was somewhat premeditated and intentional, rather than a preemptive strike against Tim.

On the flip side, I don't know what Tim's motivation for eliminating Alex would have been. Eliminated for what? So far as we can tell, Tim is the first person attacked by Alex, and no one else has disappeared yet. Outside of just assuming that Tim is taking orders from the Operator, there's no motive. Even still, we don't actually have any scenes of Tim/Masky actually interacting with or in direct proximity to the Operator (unlike Alex).

Anyway, still thinking that Alex got the drop on Tim before Tim could act. For what reasons... not sure. Given Tim's cageyness in his non-Masky appearances, I'm doubting that he's a completely innocent victim here.

[FossilizedSauce]

I wanted to ask, Tim doesn't seem extremely sick in this video... but when in the timeline is Entry #20 supposed to have taken place? Because in that video, Tim was super grumpy and really sick, and he doesn't seem like either during 56. So, does anyone know what the deal is with that?

[Slendermen]

For anyone who thinks that it was a rod, you're wrong. I've heard many sticks before and that's what they sound like when they hit a rock, kind of metal-like. Also, the stick bends, and as we all know, metal cant bend. Finally, it was found in a burned out building correct? if it was metal, it would have melted in the fire. So clearly it was a stick, you're all wrong, and this was a horrible entry.

P.S. Maybe next entry, sarah will make an appearance in the basement of doom pehaps? i have a feeling...

P.P.S. HOW DID NO ONE SEE THIS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[12th]

Just wanted to quickly add that complaints about how the Operator looks in this entry is probably influenced by the extremely bright lighting in the entry. Also, the open windows were probably fairly breezy - which seems to be revealing the thin armature of the model underneath the suit.

Mostly, though, I think it's the fact that it's seen without much distortion and in full daylight with good video quality. Whatever flaws there may be are going to be extra noticeable.

[Jamocha101]

[Oscar Langley]

OOG

[SecretPerson]

15 pages? I'm getting later every time.

I agree that the entry wasn't super awesome or anything, but it wasn't bad either. Things are finally beginning to come together.

Alex definitely used something metallic. Do you people really think Trosephim is stupid enough to have Alex try to knock out Tim with a stick?

[ieisuk]

As far as alex being the good guy, the only other suggestion I can make is that Jay is part of TTA, and Alex hadn't figured it out by the end of season 2. Remember Jay is the unreliably narrator, and Alex called Masky/Hoody a bunch of psychopaths. Psychopaths generally are manipulators looking the strike when all is innocent. This would explain why Jay took Jessica to the hotel, and why Masky took her from there. This a
is just one alternative yet simple explaination for the Alex is a good guy if not the Anti-hero.

[Jamocha101]

[TheSnack]

[Jamocha101]

I know I already mentioned this in one of my previous posts, but since there haven't been any responses, I want to reintroduce it because, not only is the discussion here about pipe vs. stick getting old, but I want to hear what other people think of this speculation:

Annex that was mentioned was Entry #51 building. Yes or no?

[Stanislav]

Probably, although who knows.