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ToTheArcanine
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So uh, anyone else find it interesting that the Operator's new HQ is a hospital?
Perhaps this is hinting at the nature of Slendy; he's removing something from people. Their heart, soul, memories, free-will, etc. (Or, creepier still, maybe he does a transplant? Remove Alex's old self and replace it with a 'new' Alex more to Slendy's liking, making them better actors for this lovely show TO is operating?)

Anyways, this use of the hospital is making me wonder something; where exactly is Slendy's real base?
We had Brian's house, the tower, Rosswood, the Tunnel... I kinda doubt that Slendy just randomly drifts through Alabama, so what exactly determines where he sets up shop? I'd like to say Alex, but we've had Slendy summoned into Jay's house and appear in the hotel to go after Jess of all people, so...
Just what attracts a Slenderman?

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Ithilwen22
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ToTheArcanine wrote:
So uh, anyone else find it interesting that the Operator's new HQ is a hospital?
Perhaps this is hinting at the nature of Slendy; he's removing something from people. Their heart, soul, memories, free-will, etc. (Or, creepier still, maybe he does a transplant? Remove Alex's old self and replace it with a 'new' Alex more to Slendy's liking, making them better actors for this lovely show TO is operating?)


Operator: No, Alex, I need you to be less campy and more rage-y.
Alex: I'm not sure I can do that...
Operator: Sure ya can! *Personality zap*
Alex: I'M AS ANGRY AS EVERYONE ON UNFORUUUMMM!
Operator: Tim...I see a pretentious theater mask.
Tim: Oh God...

Or something like that. XD

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pravado
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I just realized, remember when we were all like "why would Alex run and get his camera in entry 45" because any normal person would have just ran after hoody?

It was probably because he knew there was a chance he would lose his memory and that would be the only way to remember it.



Still not sure how the maskys were able to get away though. Maybe the operator can't do anything, alex has to knock the person out first before he can have his way.


I never thought about it but maybe entry 23 was the sacrificing of jay in that case?



AND HOW DID I NEVER THINK OF THIS

the operator can take control of alex

what if totheark can take control of tim and control him to do w/e he wants somehow, like if he somehow obtained the operator's powers. entry 45 shows how they are using alex's tactics against him (lead him somewhere then hit him with an object)

seems a little far fetched but who knows

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ToTheArcanine wrote:
So uh, anyone else find it interesting that the Operator's new HQ is a hospital?
Perhaps this is hinting at the nature of Slendy; he's removing something from people. Their heart, soul, memories, free-will, etc. (Or, creepier still, maybe he does a transplant? Remove Alex's old self and replace it with a 'new' Alex more to Slendy's liking, making them better actors for this lovely show TO is operating?)

Anyways, this use of the hospital is making me wonder something; where exactly is Slendy's real base?
We had Brian's house, the tower, Rosswood, the Tunnel... I kinda doubt that Slendy just randomly drifts through Alabama, so what exactly determines where he sets up shop? I'd like to say Alex, but we've had Slendy summoned into Jay's house and appear in the hotel to go after Jess of all people, so...
Just what attracts a Slenderman?
I don't think Slendy has a base. Maybe when he needs to be somewhere, he just appears, and he just doesn't exist if he's not busy.

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pravado
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Dr.Block wrote:
ToTheArcanine wrote:
So uh, anyone else find it interesting that the Operator's new HQ is a hospital?
Perhaps this is hinting at the nature of Slendy; he's removing something from people. Their heart, soul, memories, free-will, etc. (Or, creepier still, maybe he does a transplant? Remove Alex's old self and replace it with a 'new' Alex more to Slendy's liking, making them better actors for this lovely show TO is operating?)

Anyways, this use of the hospital is making me wonder something; where exactly is Slendy's real base?
We had Brian's house, the tower, Rosswood, the Tunnel... I kinda doubt that Slendy just randomly drifts through Alabama, so what exactly determines where he sets up shop? I'd like to say Alex, but we've had Slendy summoned into Jay's house and appear in the hotel to go after Jess of all people, so...
Just what attracts a Slenderman?
I don't think Slendy has a base. Maybe when he needs to be somewhere, he just appears, and he just doesn't exist if he's not busy.


This. They chose this area because it was dilapidated and creepy looking. Ever see the end of the Blair Witch Project? I think they're going for the same effect that building had. The actual background of the building has no relevance most likely.

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Thinking about season 1 and Alex's countdowns

This may be fruitless but it came to me and I wanted to say something...

I was thinking about how in Season 1 Alex would often be seen counting down on a timer and then shutting of the tape at specific times...and now, with a better amount of perspective on Alex and many ideas about what he was up to then, it seems we can get some new ideas about what he was in fact doing.
If the idea that the Operator's appearances have some crucial link to videotape and being filmed, or the like, it might be that Alex had to leave a certain amount of time on a tape and then shut it off as a sort of signal??

Just thinking.
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Foood
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Hmm, didn't Jay say that Alex would always go to Rosswood Park around the same time? Just a thought.

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RiftTraveler
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I always made the presumption that Alex's timers in Season 1 had to do with the length of time the tape would record. He'd put in a fresh tape, hit record, start the timer counting down from an hour (or whatever) and when the timer went off, the tape was about to run out and it'd be his signal to change it.

Thus, he wouldn't forget, and go for however long without being recorded.

-Tycho

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Jamocha101
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I don't like the inactivity, here. I need Marble Hornets speculation to live on without Totheark/entry updates. Seriously. -_-'

So for the sake of sharing the thoughts of which are progressing in my mind, nobody is confusing me more now, than Tim. When he gave Jay the tapes, he was either being honest about not watching them before he gave them away, or he was lying and wanted Jay to see something on them that he was perfectly aware of. To me, the fomer is more likely because I can't imagine why Tim would be faking out on sans-memory in terms of Masky, and his lack of recognizing Jay when the latter first approahced him was pretty swift if he was being deceptive. In any event, I guess it can go either way right now.

They way I can see it, Jay can take this in two very interesting directions. If Tim really has no idea what's on the tapes, he can show them to Tim when he's left with no other choice, and then heaven knows how Tim would react to that. Or, he could just come clean and tell everything that's been happening to him before he shows Tim the tapes just to see how he reacts. OR, he could not tell Tim and just keep hanging around him to do more steady/less risky detective work. Who the frack knows. The only thing I'm sure of, though, is that Jay definitely wants to keep Tim around for whatever purposes, based on his tweet about calling him to make sure he hadn't lost track of him. Jay might actually want to cling to him for his own sanity, if Tim is ironically the only ally he's got at the moment, now that Jessica is gone.

I just. I don't know. I need the next entry. Or at least a Totheark reply. e.o

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NewInTown2
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The way I see it

Alex gave Jay the tapes to show he was the victim in all of this.

Tim gave Jay the tapes to show he was the victim in all of this.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Patterns!


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Jamocha101
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NewInTown2 wrote:

Alex gave Jay the tapes to show he was the victim in all of this.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Patterns!


But then why did Alex directly tell Jay that he should have never given him the tapes? I would kind of think that the reason he wanted to burn them was because he didn't want anybody, including Jay, to see that he was a victim, and he wanted to leave the reality he was trapped in without any reminders. As for Tim, I could see more of him giving the tapes away stategically because he plainly offered them, but it still could go either way for me. I really couldn't find any indicators that pretain to whether or not Tim was being genuine or deceptive when he said he hadn't watched the tapes before giving them to Jay.

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Startling lack of analysis on why Tim would remember Jay, the tapes, working on MH, etc, but not remember having the ever loving sh*t beat out of himself with a metal rod by his good friend.

Any ideas? =S

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Well, because the Operator was, like...right there, which probably resulted in a Timnesia, because that's what the Operator DOES. I think TIm remembers all of the MH stuff that happened when he wasn't coming in contact with Slendy, and the Operator showed up and more than likely did something with/to him right after Alex hit him with a stickpipe. Since he's acting normal, it's probable that he doesn't really remember anything as Masky, and if Entry #56 truly was the birthplace of our beloved masked psychopath, then that could account for it as well.

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Jamocha101 wrote:
I really couldn't find any indicators that pretain to whether or not Tim was being genuine or deceptive when he said he hadn't watched the tapes before giving them to Jay.


There was talk that the term "movie guy" could indicate that Tim had seen the tapes before giving it to Jay. It could have been a coincidence, however.

Could also be a coincidence that the words "... are watching" were written in the column of the abandoned hospital before the making of MH, or an oversight not to delete or keep all to see for a few seconds, that being part of the plot, would mean that previous to this first visit of Alex and Tim, themselves, or other paranoid people related with Slendy, have been there.
I know, I am insistent with this, but I would like to hear opinions, although all are, that graffiti is irrelevant.

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Jamocha101 wrote:
NewInTown2 wrote:

Alex gave Jay the tapes to show he was the victim in all of this.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Patterns!


But then why did Alex directly tell Jay that he should have never given him the tapes? I would kind of think that the reason he wanted to burn them was because he didn't want anybody, including Jay, to see that he was a victim, and he wanted to leave the reality he was trapped in without any reminders. As for Tim, I could see more of him giving the tapes away stategically because he plainly offered them, but it still could go either way for me. I really couldn't find any indicators that pretain to whether or not Tim was being genuine or deceptive when he said he hadn't watched the tapes before giving them to Jay.
Perhaps Alex wanted to escape Tim so he ran and left Jay the tapes so he would eventually walk into Alex's (and the Operator's) waiting arms.

Jay however uploads them to the net where Tim sees them and knows the game is not over. Alex looses his ability to act unhindered because TTA is now following Jay into the trap. I think Jay was suppose to be the final MH Operator victim at the abandoned house used as a return address in the "Help me" tape. TTA's tail prevented Alex from making his move the first time Jay visits it and the second time Masky is waiting for them in the house itself and Jay presence keeps Alex from killing Tim since he still needs Jay to trust him if he's going to setup a new trap. To make matters worse TTA now can directly harass Alex and he's unable to do his work.

As an added bonus future potential victims maybe tainted with knowledge of these events now moving Alex from useful tool for the Operator to expendable liability.

Now Tim and TTA are not only using Alex's own methods against him to prime Jay for the final hunt, they are flaunting this to Alex by posting the TTA videos we have so far. "Alex we are coming for you, and Jay's going to lead us completely willingly now!"

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