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enderdio
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Alex attacked Tim because he figured out that Tim was leading him to slendy. At this point in the chronology, Alex is still innocent, but very paranoid. When he sees the operator symbol he figures out that Tim was baiting him (it had to be THAT building.)

Alex never actually saw slendy, as he was too busy clobbering tim.

After he finished, he sensed another presence in the room (the camera dropping could have done it) and went to investigate, walking right up to where slendy was, but finding nothing. He drops the pipe and leaves.

IMO, later when he brings Seth to investigate is when he first falls under slendy's spell.

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LadyGodiva
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If he wasn't already under Slendy's spell, why return the building to investigate in the first place?

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TheAtroxious
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Well, I haven't finished reading this entire thread, but there's one thing that's kind of bugging me. It seems like a some of people are speculating on things that the creators themselves said were a non-issue that were not really important, or going to crop up in the story again, such as Seth or Tim's sigma (yes, there was a sigma, but its association with Tim was based on a clue that had no standing in-game).

Point is, Seth was just that one victim that (presumably) Alex offed, mind-wiped, or whatever, and everyone forgot about him because, OOG, he's not part of the Marble Hornets crew and never was. He was a very minor character. And the sigma was there in some of TTA's videos, but there hasn't been much seen of it since, and nothing specific linking it to Tim.

Just sayin'. Sometimes you do have to remember what was happening OOG to eliminate false leads IG.

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Jamocha101
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enderdio wrote:
Alex attacked Tim because he figured out that Tim was leading him to slendy. At this point in the chronology, Alex is still innocent, but very paranoid. When he sees the operator symbol he figures out that Tim was baiting him (it had to be THAT building.).


Once again, at this point in time, Tim had no inevitable incentive to want to rebel against Alex. Also, what exactly did you mean by, "it had to be THAT building"?

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We've seen Alex...almost kill Tim,


Like, three times. XD

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pravado
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enderdio wrote:
Alex attacked Tim because he figured out that Tim was leading him to slendy. At this point in the chronology, Alex is still innocent, but very paranoid. When he sees the operator symbol he figures out that Tim was baiting him (it had to be THAT building.)

Alex never actually saw slendy, as he was too busy clobbering tim.

After he finished, he sensed another presence in the room (the camera dropping could have done it) and went to investigate, walking right up to where slendy was, but finding nothing. He drops the pipe and leaves.

IMO, later when he brings Seth to investigate is when he first falls under slendy's spell.


your theory can't be true bc alex wouldn't have recognized the operator symbol if he had never saw the operator, it wouldn't have meant anything to him

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If the idea is that Tim lead Alex to that building - I doubt it. Going by the dialog, it sounds like it was Alex's idea to go up there that day, even if it was Tim who originally suggested it as a filming location much earlier in the production. I don't see why Alex would do that if he thought Tim was going to try to get him to go there anyway.

I'm still curious about weather or not the poolhouse encounter was Jay's intended sacrifice. Exit shows that someone (probably a TTA) was stalking/filming people while MH was still being filmed. The sacrifices would've ended the filming, but if they were also what "created" TTA, then TTA would only have been around for the last day of filming sacrifices. Now I really wanna rewatch season 1...

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pravado
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i hope one of the next entries shows alex trying to sacrifice someone only to have that person counter his attack and flee after seeing the operator (or not actually, that is very formulaic and overdone in this series) , and we get to witness the birth of TTA or masky or something

i just really hope that tim isn't being operated and that he's acting on his own free will, it would make things a lot cooler and realistic

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pravado wrote:

i just really hope that tim isn't being operated and that he's acting on his own free will, it would make things a lot cooler and realistic


I'm with you on this. I'm starting to worry about those things.
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pravado
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i worry about it mainly because it's so predictable and they're really good at throwing curveballs (making alex the bad guy and tying it back into season 1, stuff like that) and could easily curveball tim's character

main things i want to see this season:
- a moving operator on camera for more than a split second
- cleaning up loose ends from season 1 (bullet casing / why tim was in the house and tackled jay)
- no more past footage, it's starting to get formulaic and this isn't exactly a throwaway series and they obviously know that, so i just hope they take their time on entries and release them a week late if they have to rather than rush out a "meh" entry


the series seems to be straying away from operator/tta centric to tim/alex centric and it just doesn't have the same horror feel to it, but i have faith they know what they're doing

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ReverendJ
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pravado wrote:
ReverendJ wrote:
Foood wrote:
ReverendJ wrote:
Jamocha101 wrote:
NewInTown2 wrote:

Alex gave Jay the tapes to show he was the victim in all of this.
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Patterns!


But then why did Alex directly tell Jay that he should have never given him the tapes? I would kind of think that the reason he wanted to burn them was because he didn't want anybody, including Jay, to see that he was a victim, and he wanted to leave the reality he was trapped in without any reminders. As for Tim, I could see more of him giving the tapes away stategically because he plainly offered them, but it still could go either way for me. I really couldn't find any indicators that pretain to whether or not Tim was being genuine or deceptive when he said he hadn't watched the tapes before giving them to Jay.
Perhaps Alex wanted to escape Tim so he ran and left Jay the tapes so he would eventually walk into Alex's (and the Operator's) waiting arms.

Jay however uploads them to the net where Tim sees them and knows the game is not over. Alex looses his ability to act unhindered because TTA is now following Jay into the trap. I think Jay was suppose to be the final MH Operator victim at the abandoned house used as a return address in the "Help me" tape. TTA's tail prevented Alex from making his move the first time Jay visits it and the second time Masky is waiting for them in the house itself and Jay presence keeps Alex from killing Tim since he still needs Jay to trust him if he's going to setup a new trap. To make matters worse TTA now can directly harass Alex and he's unable to do his work.

As an added bonus future potential victims maybe tainted with knowledge of these events now moving Alex from useful tool for the Operator to expendable liability.

Now Tim and TTA are not only using Alex's own methods against him to prime Jay for the final hunt, they are flaunting this to Alex by posting the TTA videos we have so far. "Alex we are coming for you, and Jay's going to lead us completely willingly now!"


Just one problem with this: Let's assume Jay didn't upload the footage to the internet. How would Alex have known when to send Jay the "Help Me" tape?
When the Operator told him he was ready.



He actually only gave that to Jay BECAUSE Jay was investigating. alex calls jay out on posting the videos to youtube in 52, he was well aware of the channel. keep in mind at the time 52 occurred, only the first 26 entries were posted for alex to see. he didn't know just how much jay knew when he pointed the gun on them, he just assumed jay knew about the sacrificing of brian, not things like entry 43 and 45 and others (this has nothing to do with the quoted post i just felt like pointing it out)


i just relaized something else: alex probably gave jay that "anonymous tip" back in entry 16. the operator was in the house, and so was totheark. we know tta was following jay, what if he was doing so to find alex all the way back then too? the next time jay goes back, tim is there because he thinks jay is working with alex in some way, and TIM is the one who does the sacrificing in 23 because he doesn't realize jay is innocent

it's the only explanation that i can come up with as to the events of 18 and 23
I always thought the mask on the door was an invitation to join TTA, but then they realized the big O for some reason doesn't quiet have the same effect on him or he just doesn't know as much as them or something so they changed tactics.

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ReverendJ
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pravado wrote:
- no more past footage
What about the last tape?

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pravado
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well besides the last tape


and i always took the mask hanging in the doorway as "put this on i'm leaving it here for a reason"

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Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi
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pravado wrote:
and i always took the mask hanging in the doorway as "put this on i'm leaving it here for a reason"

Me too.
Tim wouldn't just leave his mask for no reason, and it seems like he wears it at all times(especially on camera, or when there's a possibility of getting filmed)
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pravado
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someone should tweet jay and say "make your own mask and put it on and go to rosswood park and see if anything happens"

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ReverendJ wrote:
MASSIVE WALL OF QUOTES


Lrn2quotesnip. Srsly. <3

pravado wrote:
someone should tweet jay and say "make your own mask and put it on and go to rosswood park and see if anything happens"


If he hasn't already (lolTTAtheories), I really wanna see this. Panda Hoodie was hilarious, I can only imagine what Jay would make.
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